Shanaplan vs The No Plan Plan

[Westcoasting]

On 2/4/2021 at 10:28 PM, King Heffy said:

Let's see how Toronto does in the playoffs with their AHL quality blueline.

As compared to no playoffs?

[Lazurus]

Funny thing about the lack of response to this title.

 

A few years ago there were dozens of pages stating TO' Shanaplan would not work and defending Benning's whatever plan, something Jason Botchford came to call the "The No Plan, Plan" because what was happening made no sense or results. Just spending 100's of millions.

 

Back then is was clear that support for Benning vs Shanaplan was clearly one sided on this forum, maybe as much as 22 to 1 going by the number of pages, although there did seem to be 10 or so posters defending Benning like pure fanatics with no other thought than to everything else is wrong but Jim. Could have been just a hired mob because several came on line at the same time, like multiple avatars per user.

 

At any rate the time is now, the two plans will come head to head again, every dog has it's day and even a broken clock is right twice a day.

It will be the cumulative results that will tell the tale.

 

But a underlying issue might be raising it's head with the No Plan, Plan, the players are getting discouraged having to apologize to the media day after day and know that one or two wins will not stop the doubts they carry themselves or fans.

[DSVII]

It wasn't 'no plan'. It was the Aquilini playoff money plan. 

[Patel Bure]

Toronto = Pittsburgh 2010-2015:   

 

Here's a few things that people have to realize about "Shanaplan".    

 

1) Toronto hadn't won a playoff series since 2004 and had been terrible for years on end.    And this was even after they got rid of their old core around 2008-2009.

 

2) The Leafs *still* haven't won a playoff series since 2004 (although that will change this year).   

 

3) Here is where the Pittsburgh 2010-2015 comparison kicks in.   The Leafs have over-allocated their cap towards their top stars.   Matthews, Tavares, Marner,  etc., which has left them VERY little to achieve true depth.   This is ultimately the reason why the Leafs are a "very good" team but not a great one.   If you look at the teams that have won cups since 2010, you'll notice that the formula has always been

 

cost controlled elite talent + depth = championships:  

 

Chicago, Los Angeles, St. Louis, Boston, and Tampa Bay all followed this model.   Teams like Pittsburgh and Washington also "evolved" into this model once the cap hit percentages to their top players became lowered as the overall cap went up.   

 

Top players will have to get PAID huge deals at some point (as was the case with Chicago and LA's players), but bridge deals and/or 5 year deals MUST be given first if a team is serious about winning.    

 

I have yet to see a team win a cup when their top young talents are paid at PREMIUM for 8 years right away.  

 

Colorado is doing things right.   So is Carolina.