Can one bad contract ruin a whole roaster?

[erkayloomeh]

On 2/21/2021 at 5:22 PM, LeafsFanDan said:

Many people believe the answer is resoundingly YES.

I pulled a few recent articles including:

 

Karlsson contract single handedly ruined Sharks season

 

And this delicious quote from a Toronto paper:

Catastrophe in Buffalo

 

"Thirteen games in, Jack Eichel has scored twice. Taylor Hall has scored once. And Jeff Skinner hasn’t scored at all.

 

Combined, a high-paid trio that is earning $27-million this year has one even-strength goal and nine even-strength points. Skinner, who’s $9-million cap hit makes him the highest-paid fourth-line forward in the NHL, hasn’t scored in almost 12 months."

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It's for these types of reasons why so many and I mean many people in Vancouver are on Bennings case about poor contracts. Just one bad contract can absolutely crush a team, no joke. Yet Canucks have several, it's incredible they are where they are in the standings considering how bad their contract managment has been.

 

Cautionary tale here for EP and QH contracts coming up, they can make or break a team just 2 guys is enough to completely tank a team as shown.

 

Thoughts are welcomed.

 

 

Not enough credit (money) is given to players like motte on winning teams   those top paid players need to realize this and leave room so you can dress a competitive lineup. 

There are players like nik Lidstrom who can totally carry there own load.  Then there are players like Quinn Hughes who need to play with players like Chris Tanev to cover there shortcomings.   So let's not overpay players like that. 

Drafting players who are team first minded is important and i think we have that with Pete and quinn. 

[Goat James]

On 2/25/2021 at 6:08 AM, nowhereman said:

Don't forget Ferland, Benn, and the ghosts of Sven Baertschi and Ryan Spooner. The cherry on top is Luongo but that's not Benning's fault.

 

Thankfully, we'll clear the books at the end of next season.

 

The Luongo thing is so damn weird. First off the contract wasn't illegal at the time, secondly all teams signed front loaded contracts, yet we're the only team that gets punnished. 

 

But yeah, after this season Pettersson and Hughes are gonna cost at least $12 million more per year, so any cap relief we get is gonna get eaten up by them. Also, I don't trust Benning to manage our cap moving forward considering his history. 

[nowhereman]

On 2/26/2021 at 1:42 AM, Goat James said:

 

The Luongo thing is so damn weird. First off the contract wasn't illegal at the time, secondly all teams signed front loaded contracts, yet we're the only team that gets punnished. 

 

But yeah, after this season Pettersson and Hughes are gonna cost at least $12 million more per year, so any cap relief we get is gonna get eaten up by them. Also, I don't trust Benning to manage our cap moving forward considering his history. 

In the words of Bob Mckenzie, it was "the most Vancouver thing ever". The Luongo recapture penalty is an embarrassing blemish on the NHL, as it is a petty rule that should not have been retroactively instated in the first place. It's even more egregious considering they have ignored other teams attempt to circumvent the rules on Robidas Island with skin allergies and the like.

 

The most disgusting example of the NHL's inconsistent enforcement of the rules is the Kovalchuk example. The Devils were purposely trying to circumvent the salary cap with the initial Kovalchuk contract and were penalized $3 million, a third-round draft choice in the 2011 draft and one future first-round draft pick within the next four seasons. Lamoriello purposely put-off giving up the first round pick until the final year of eligibility and then was gifted the pick back by the NHL, when the penalty was "magically" absolved.

 

Why couldn't the NHL do the same with Luongo's recapture penalty, given that the Canucks were the only team to actually have to put up with such a high hit (as Florida tried some backdoor crap with Luongo to screw the Canucks and sign Bobrovsky)? 

 

Why? Because it's all about who you know in the NHL. Unfortunate, but true.

Edited February 28, 2021 by nowhereman

[ShawnAntoski]

5 hours ago, nowhereman said:

In the words of Bob Mckenzie, it was "the most Vancouver thing ever". The Luongo recapture penalty is an embarrassing blemish on the NHL, as it is a petty rule that should not have been retroactively instated in the first place. It's even more egregious considering they have ignored other teams attempt to circumvent the rules on Robidas Island with skin allergies and the like.

 

The most disgusting example of the NHL's inconsistent enforcement of the rules is the Kovalchuk example. The Devils were purposely trying to circumvent the salary cap with the initial Kovalchuk contract and were penalized $3 million, a third-round draft choice in the 2011 draft and one future first-round draft pick within the next four seasons. Lamoriello purposely put-off giving up the first round pick until the final year of eligibility and then was gifted the pick back by the NHL, when the penalty was "magically" absolved.

 

Why couldn't the NHL do the same with Luongo's recapture penalty, given that the Canucks were the only team to actually have to put up with such a high hit (as Florida tried some backdoor crap with Luongo to screw the Canucks and sign Bobrovsky)? 

 

Why? Because it's all about who you know in the NHL. Unfortunate, but true.

Great context and the Canucks just have to grind through this these next two seasons; perhaps a blessing in diaguise in the long run - who knows but it always even outs in the end; hopefully, JB will avoid making the same mistakes.    Also, did not notice Aquaman making too much of a stink perhaps he realized that it would just be a waste of time.

 

NJ will ever be rebuilding; won't be able to keep those players (in the long run) and will eventually need the help of Bettman in the draft to stay afloat again.  Bettmans' time will end and hopefully his replacement will be more fair in his enforcement but given the history of other sports, Bettman is perhaps already mentoring his replacement - .

Edited March 1, 2021 by ShawnAntoski