-DLC- Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 OK found it. Like how much room does a goaltender get to claim in front of the net? The blue paint, sure....but he's outside of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 if Hogs had gone to the net and stopped as the puck was being shot it would have been a good goal he just needed to be about four inches further way from Greiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, -DLC- said: OK found it. Like how much room does a goaltender get to claim in front of the net? The blue paint, sure....but he's outside of that. Its not so much about the crease as the fact he hit him in the head, you can have goalie interference anywhere on the ice. Edited October 17, 2021 by mikeyman109 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, JM_ said: careful, some wall st guy might come along and accuse you of being a homer But I AM a homer. I don't invest too much energy at being upset after the fact anymore and have really adopted "it is what it is". Greiss stood on his head and we could have easily won that game....but didn't. Lots of shots, good energy but have to find a way to get it PAST the goaltender. Those toe saves though.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, JM_ said: careful, some wall st guy might come along and accuse you of being a homer I've given up on consistency a long time ago. We just need to be better than the refs to go the distance. I'm pretty pleased with the new look team. 1-1-1 to start the road on three fricking home openers is just fine given how well the team is moving the puck. I can't remember the last time we looked so mobile coming out of our own zone, both with quick little passes or guys like Hughes that just carry it out. Seems like we're back to having more than one option in our zone. We haven't quite put it together on the F scoring but that will come. What people seem to forget is that officials are not AI, tyey are individual people with individual perspectives. Of course there's no consistency, with that many different people how could there be? I like that different refs call different games, it adds another layer of complexity to an already complex sport. It'd be pretty damn boring if every game were called exactly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, -DLC- said: OK found it. Like how much room does a goaltender get to claim in front of the net? The blue paint, sure....but he's outside of that. Griess is out too far. And Hog's isn't in the paint. Just have to shrug it off and move on, it was a night where Detroit players liked sticking their heads in our numbers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Slegr said: One clip I’d like to get a better view of was the offside that was called against the Canucks when they came in for that slick passing and tip-in that most likely would have beat the goalie. They never did show an overhead view of how that was offside. the first replay seemed to show it was onside and that was another horrible call by the officials last night. That one was more arguable than the Hoggy one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, stawns said: What people seem to forget is that officials are not AI, tyey are individual people with individual perspectives. Of course there's no consistency, with that many different people how could there be? I like that different refs call different games, it adds another layer of complexity to an already complex sport. It'd be pretty damn boring if every game were called exactly the same I don't have a problem with this aspect of reffing. I have a problem with "game management". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, JM_ said: Griess is out too far. And Hog's isn't in the paint. Just have to shrug it off and move on, it was a night where Detroit players liked sticking their heads in our numbers. Green was asked why they didn't challenge it: "Sewey [video coach Darryl Seward] was pretty, pretty confident that it wasn't going to be overruled". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, -DLC- said: But I AM a homer. I don't invest too much energy at being upset after the fact anymore and have really adopted "it is what it is". Greiss stood on his head and we could have easily won that game....but didn't. Lots of shots, good energy but have to find a way to get it PAST the goaltender. Those toe saves though.... exactly, anyone that comes on here and whines about people supporting their team can go file a complaint on HF Boards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, JM_ said: I don't have a problem with this aspect of reffing. I have a problem with "game management". This i totally agree with 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, mll said: Green was asked why they didn't challenge it: "Sewey [video coach Darryl Seward] was pretty, pretty confident that it wasn't going to be overruled". It was a good call the paint has nothing to do with it. you cant hit the goalie anywhere on the ice and this is what the call was about. especially on a goal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, JM_ said: Griess is out too far. And Hog's isn't in the paint. Just have to shrug it off and move on, it was a night where Detroit players liked sticking their heads in our numbers. The crease doesn't matter. GI is routinely called outside the crease when the opposing player doesn't make a legitimate effort to avoid contact. Clearly Hoglander did not meet that standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, stawns said: The crease doesn't matter. GI is routinely called outside the crease when the opposing player doesn't make a legitimate effort to avoid contact. Clearly Hoglander did not meet that standard. I don't think Hogs expected him to be out that far, I don't think he was looking, just wasn't in the paint. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, JM_ said: I don't have a problem with this aspect of reffing. I have a problem with "game management". That's their job. Do you really want them calling every single infraction? The he would be 98% special teams. There are already far far far too many penalties called as it is now, it's ruining the game 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, stawns said: That's their job. Do you really want them calling every single infraction? The he would be 98% special teams. There are already far far far too many penalties called as it is now, it's ruining the game I agree that I dont want to see half court hockey all game. But they also dont need to even up all the power plays and its obvious sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, JM_ said: I don't think Hogs expected him to be out that far, I don't think he was looking, just wasn't in the paint. But according to the rules the onus is on hogz to avoid contact. I was disappointed as well, but no way would I expect any other call if it were on halak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, mikeyman109 said: I agree that I dont want to see half court hockey all game. But they also dont need to even up all the power plays and its obvious sometimes It's been that way since the game began, in fact it's less now than it ever has been, imo. I like it, it adds to the anticipatory/dramatic effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, mikeyman109 said: the first replay seemed to show it was onside and that was another horrible call by the officials last night. That one was more arguable than the Hoggy one It’s at 1:34 of this clip. NSFW language, so turn the volume off if your kids are in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, stawns said: That's their job. Do you really want them calling every single infraction? The he would be 98% special teams. There are already far far far too many penalties called as it is now, it's ruining the game its not that b&w tho. Some teams are allowed to get away with more physical play than others, e.g. Some ref's are lazy and always call the same number on a team. Some like to give teams a chance to tie games up. I don't buy the idea that you can't take this aspect out of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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