cripplereh Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, Smashian Kassian said: I'm honestly so shocked to see they won, I feel like I'm in a dream lol Yes left me speechless for a bit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, ShawnAntoski said: Lemiux believes in rebuilding and Aquaman doesn't. Plus, do you know of JRs' history as GM ? Because Lemieux knows it’s almost impossible to win the Cup without the key core guys acquired in the top 5 picks. We have one now with Petey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, ShawnAntoski said: Lemiux believes in rebuilding and Aquaman doesn't. Plus, do you know of JRs' history as GM ? Yeah, he did a great job building Carolina into a cup winning team. He didn’t just inherit and ride Sid and Geno. He’s also far from a yes man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Enough with the kool aid garbage. Fine but you are STILL obviously, seeing things from a very rosy POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, canuck73_3 said: Yeah, he did a great job building Carolina into a cup winning team. He didn’t just inherit and ride Sid and Geno. He’s also far from a yes man. Maybe this time he wanted the challenge of turning a team around as fast as he can. Not to sure why he came here but hope he pulls a rabbit out of his hat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Enough with the kool aid garbage. Trading a key core piece will be taking us away from the “win now” Aquilini direction. So that’s got to be Petey, Hughes, Demko, Miller, or Bo. If we see anyone of those guys traded then Alf will be excited about a new (and better) future for our team. Moving Boeser or Garland or Schenn isn’t changing direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Fine but you are STILL obviously, seeing things from a very rosy POV. There is actually a middle ground. I’m also not going to jump to conclusions on either side literally 1 year to inheriting this mess. Your pessimistic view is just as flawed as your rosy view you accuse me of with all due respect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Yeah, he did a great job building Carolina into a cup winning team. He didn’t just inherit and ride Sid and Geno. He’s also far from a yes man. I think he’s going to drop a bomb quick like. Boeser for an expiring contract. Bo gets resigned and kozmenko walks. You heard it here folks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Trading a key core piece will be taking us away from the “win now” Aquilini direction. So that’s got to be Petey, Hughes, Demko, Miller, or Bo. If we see anyone of those guys traded then Alf will be excited about a new (and better) future for our team. Moving Boeser or Garland or Schenn isn’t changing direction. It would be if we can trade Brock,Myers and a couple more. We would have cap room and might get a decent player back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Yeah, he did a great job building Carolina into a cup winning team. He didn’t just inherit and ride Sid and Geno. He’s also far from a yes man. If you really want to discuss JRs' history as GM - the type of owners he was working for has to be included in the discussion. Ofcourse, it wasn't just the two generational forwards cause you forgot Letang and how where they acquired ? Cause it wasn't JR, who drafted them; and his drafting record with Pens, was Gillis like. As for Carolina he did build up that core, MAINLY though the draft but he had an owner that left him alone during his whole tenure Edited December 6, 2022 by ShawnAntoski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Trading a key core piece will be taking us away from the “win now” Aquilini direction. So that’s got to be Petey, Hughes, Demko, Miller, or Bo. If we see anyone of those guys traded then Alf will be excited about a new (and better) future for our team. Moving Boeser or Garland or Schenn isn’t changing direction. What win now moves have been made? So far zilch. He’s beefed up our top 9 and acquired 2 depth dmen and one was a throw in contract for a cap dump. None of those moves are “win now” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, chon derry said: I think he’s going to drop a bomb quick like. Boeser for an expiring contract. Bo gets resigned and kozmenko walks. You heard it here folks. 650 was talking that the Stinky Cow Pies were interested in Brock. And the return would be an expiring contract if similar cap - Lucic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, chon derry said: I think he’s going to drop a bomb quick like. Boeser for an expiring contract. Bo gets resigned and kozmenko walks. You heard it here folks. Maybe you are right. But with crappy d with players healthy we can still be a decent team so who knows what's going to happen but hope it's big and helps us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, ShawnAntoski said: If you really want to discuss JRs' history as GM - the type of owners he was working for has to be included in the discussion. Ofcourse, it wasn't just the two generational forwards cause you forgot Letang and how where they acquired ? Cause it wasn't him, who drafted him and his drafting record with Pens was Gillis like. As for Carolina he did build up that core, MAINLY though the draft and he had an owner that left him alone during his whole tenure He’s also not taking a job without autonomy, so there’s also that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Okay so what are we thinking? Across the Burrard St Bridge, hang a Right on Georgia..? Edited December 6, 2022 by Smashian Kassian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: 650 was talking that the Stinky Cow Pies were interested in Brock. And the return would be an expiring contract if similar cap - Lucic. He looks to be the most expendable player with the least fallout attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: What win now moves have been made? So far zilch. He’s beefed up our top 9 and acquired 2 depth dmen and one was a throw in contract for a cap dump. None of those moves are “win now” What? Those are all “win now” moves. How old are the guys brought in? Are they young guys who have ceiling to climb to, or are they already developed and at their ceilings? Describe one move that isn’t “win now” and explain why. I’m trying to see your point of view, but not getting it. So provide specifics to support what you’re suggesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I still think a player like Carlo who is expendable would be a good fit here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: He’s also not taking a job without autonomy, so there’s also that. Again prove you’re opinion with evidence. Because during this year of JR all the evidence is actually to the contrary. He is 100% following Aquilini’s “win now” direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: What? Those are all “win now” moves. How old are the guys brought in? Are they young guys who have ceiling to climb to, or are they already developed and at their ceilings? Describe one move that isn’t “win now” and explain why. I’m trying to see your point of view, but not getting it. So provide specifics to support what you’re suggesting. Well free agents can only be unrestricted at 27, 26 if they started at 18. But an unproven fwd from Russia, a third liner and a dman that was a healthy scratch for 2 weeks are not win now moves. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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