stawns Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: If he's getting 70-80 points his contract isn't an issue. Miller has been a consistent PPG guy the entire time he's been here. He was our MVP last year while Petey was struggling and people calling him to go play in Abby. Sure, he hasn't had a great start to ths season, but I am looking at his entire body of work over the last 4 years, not just the last 40 games. The talk that he is the locker room cancer is just that, we don't know what is going on behind the scenes, it is all speculation at this point. At the end of the day, my opinion is that Horvat and Miller cannot co-exist. If Miller was not around I would say heh, let's re-sign Horvat long term, and it probably would have gotten done in the summer at a much lower cost than today. However, management went in the other direction and re-signed Miller instead. I know that bothers you and I know you feel it will be a catastrophe if Horvat gets traded, but that is the route management has taken. Maybe management has made a mistake. We will find out at some point. If they have then you can say "I told you so" and me and some others can eat crow... I still believe they will rectify that mistake before the tdl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: IMHAO GMs, when given unrealistic directives from owners, make bad trades and bad signings. Benning tried to follow his owner’s direction, but it only made for a huge mess. We aimed low on that Stillman deal. We should have targeted a tougher defenseman like Gudas or Mayfield using a 2nd and Hogs or who ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 56 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Isn't that the truth. John Shannon was on Donnie and Dhali and they wanted him to talk about Miller. He shut them down and said our problem isn't Miller, it was our defence. Which is 100% true. Not only is it our defence, it is our forwards that don't know how to play defence. We need more defensive forwards who know how to kill a penalty, and we need a major upgrade on the back end. These issues are 1000x greater than JT Miller... The 3rd line should be built as a checking line. Tough on the body and good against top lines. Pk and body checkers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: We aimed low on that Stillman deal. We should have targeted a tougher defenseman like Gudas or Mayfield using a 2nd and Hogs or who ever. I think Stillman will develop into a decent dman. He's still got time to develop and has a good natural abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stawns Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Hairy Kneel said: The 3rd line should be built as a checking line. Tough on the body and good against top lines. Pk and body checkers. You need three lines that can score to be successful these days. Doesn't mean they cant be hard to play against, but they still have to contribute significant offense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, stawns said: You need three lines that can score to be successful these days. Doesn't mean they cant be hard to play against, but they still have to contribute significant offense We've got plenty of skill. But no defense. We are low on all defensi' ratings. We cannot score our way out of every situation especially the playoffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeeeergh Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, Devron said: Finally! Someone standing up for the legend LE @eeeeergh A breath of fresh air for sure Maybe the reason the hockey gods hate us is because of the disrespect we show towards royalty 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: We've got plenty of skill. But no defense. We are low on all defensi' ratings. We cannot score our way out of every situation especially the playoffs. I agree, though I think the lion's share of that falls on poor coaching and poor defensive systems or lack thereof. All lines, imo, should be made up of good 200ft players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: The 3rd line should be built as a checking line. Tough on the body and good against top lines. Pk and body checkers. Exactly. At one point our 3rd line consisted of Boeser, Garland and Dries. No wonder we can't kill a penalty or hold on to a lead... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Exactly. At one point our 3rd line consisted of Boeser, Garland and Dries. No wonder we can't kill a penalty or hold on to a lead... I just wanted know why Garland was such a beast 5 on 5 last year and not so much this year. Honestly if he played like last year we would be talking about possibly getting out first back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, stawns said: I agree, though I think the lion's share of that falls on poor coaching and poor defensive systems or lack thereof. All lines, imo, should be made up of good 200ft players. Dries is a speedy offense type not a 3rd line style player. Studnicka is also a speed type not known for being a physical body checker. Boeser on the 3rd line is miscast. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Hairy Kneel said: Dries is a speedy offense type not a 3rd line style player. Studnicka is also a speed type not known for being a physical body checker. Boeser on the 3rd line is miscast. I'm not saying they shouldn't reconstruct their third line, or any line for that matter. I'm just saying you can't just rely on two lines for offense and two lines for defensive play. You need string 200ft games from every line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 There’s an article stating Kuz trade deadline worth is a 1st + 2nd or prospect. Comparable to Andrew Copp last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, stawns said: I agree, though I think the lion's share of that falls on poor coaching and poor defensive systems or lack thereof. All lines, imo, should be made up of good 200ft players. Our top 6 is great. Lots of skill. Our 4th line has been good too. Our top pairing is great on the pp. Our bottom 2 pairings are a mystery and unpredictable in how they will play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Our top 6 is great. Lots of skill. Our 4th line has been good too. Our top pairing is great on the pp. Our bottom 2 pairings are a mystery and unpredictable in how they will play. For me, it's just more evidence at how imbalanced the roster is and how crucial it is that they make the right moves, this season, to fix that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, stawns said: For me, it's just more evidence at how imbalanced the roster is and how crucial it is that they make the right moves, this season, to fix that Exactly. Stillman is more of a skill type too. And Dermott brings that now that he's back. Would have been better to get a tough shut down type with that 2nd. But we added some good new offensive pieces. But a tough dman would have been nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBurrows14Yu Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, Devron said: I just wanted know why Garland was such a beast 5 on 5 last year and not so much this year. Honestly if he played like last year we would be talking about possibly getting out first back Maybe Garland wants to star in Vancouver. He knows if he plays well he’d get traded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeNiro Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Ahh yes our last GM spent most his time scouting too. How did that go again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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