DeNiro Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 And so what happens when the 2012 - 2013 champs are filled with skilled players under 6 feet with no tough guys? DO we trade Booth, Kassian, Jensen etc?? The canucks need to find their own identity and stick with it. The formula for winning the cup has never involved having a bunch of small players on your roster. You need size, you need toughness, and you need fearless players. Even the wings had a bunch of sandpaper mixed in with their skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I honestly don't think Schroeders size is going to be an issue. He's built like Brad Marchand. Small, compact, and explosive. He has NHL hands, unreal vision, and a lightning quick shot. Booth Schroeder Higgins would be a good line for him to adjust to the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 The formula for winning the cup has never involved having a bunch of small players on your roster. You need size, you need toughness, and you need fearless players. Even the wings had a bunch of sandpaper mixed in with their skill. You're missing the point. Every time a team wins the cup it's comething new that does it for them. Boston buillied vancouver out of the building. Chicago Philly showed you needed great forwards and a solid 3rd line. Pittsburgh and Detroit showed you need finesse forwards. Anaheim grinded it out And now LA is showing that you need three big centres. the point is that it's pretty much a guarantee that a different factor will win the cup each year. You can't worry about what other teams do. You need to pick a system before the season starts and acquire the players that will fufill that. Changing your strategy every year is a recipe for disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 You're missing the point. Every time a team wins the cup it's comething new that does it for them. Boston buillied vancouver out of the building. Chicago Philly showed you needed great forwards and a solid 3rd line. Pittsburgh and Detroit showed you need finesse forwards. Anaheim grinded it out And now LA is showing that you need three big centres. the point is that it's pretty much a guarantee that a different factor will win the cup each year. You can't worry about what other teams do. You need to pick a system before the season starts and acquire the players that will fufill that. Changing your strategy every year is a recipe for disaster You are being pretty selective about you're approach and conclusion. De Niro hit it right. The NHL talks one story during the regular season when it doesn't mean much but come playoffs and the rules change. Size, speed and physicality counts for a lot. Playoffs are all about atrition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 You are being pretty selective about you're approach and conclusion. De Niro hit it right. The NHL talks one story during the regular season when it doesn't mean much but come playoffs and the rules change. Size, speed and physicality counts for a lot. Playoffs are all about atrition. Exactly. There's no substitution for size and toughness. Sure a smaller team can make it through to the finals. But when a skilled team like Vancouver met a team like Boston, they didn't have any answer to their size and grit. You've gotta have those weapons in your arsenal to be able to win different ways and be prepared for different opponents. Every single cup team since the beggining of the NHL has won the cup with the same formula: Hard work. I have no doubt Schroeder can work hard, the only thing he's going to have trouble with is battling 230 pound defenceman in the corners for the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 You're missing the point. Every time a team wins the cup it's comething new that does it for them. Boston buillied vancouver out of the building. Chicago Philly showed you needed great forwards and a solid 3rd line. Pittsburgh and Detroit showed you need finesse forwards. Anaheim grinded it out And now LA is showing that you need three big centres. the point is that it's pretty much a guarantee that a different factor will win the cup each year. You can't worry about what other teams do. You need to pick a system before the season starts and acquire the players that will fufill that. Changing your strategy every year is a recipe for disaster All of those teams you listed had big players in their lineups. They all had awesome forchecks. They all had third and fourth lines that were tough and produced offensively. They all had deep defence. They all had good goaltending. And all of their stars showed up in a big way. You say that they all won in different ways, but I would say they all pretty much won the same way. It's the same formula for every cup winning team. The only thing that changes is the style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I highly doubt having one small player is going to kill our chances of winning a cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I highly doubt having one small player is going to kill our chances of winning a cup... Nobody is saying it will. But my point was when Gillis says he wants his team to get bigger and stronger, bringing a 5'8" player into our top 6 kind of goes against that. And if we do do that, it kind of limits the areas in which we can upgrade in the size and toughness department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 But players like Marchand, St.louis, Briere play bigger than their height. Bigger heart, stronger will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 It's been 3 years since we drafted him, 0 NHL games??? Great job gillis, what a steal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRow Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 It's been 3 years since we drafted him, 0 NHL games??? Great job gillis, what a steal Leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 If the new CBA doesn't get done and there is a short work stoppage leading to a shortened season, Schroeder's chance at cracking our lineup becomes slim since Ryan Kesler will be ready to go. Sucks for him, but if he wants to make the NHL, he'll have to make it regardless of whether Ryan Kesler is in the lineup or not - so let's hope he can still make a lasting impression to at least get a call up later on or downright solidify his spot on the 3rd line center position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 It's been 3 years since we drafted him, 0 NHL games??? Great job gillis, what a steal It's been 3 years since we drafted him, 0 NHL games??? Great job gillis, what a steal Yep, so he's right on track to make the NHL in the same average time frame that it takes 75% of prospects to make the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeywoot Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 I hope Schroeder can make the team I'd love to see these lines Dank Hank Burr (Scoring Line vs Opp. L 3) Higgins Kes Hansen (Shut down/Counter Attack vs Opp. L1/L2) Booth Schroeder Raymond/Kassian (Scoring Line vs Opp. L4) Lappy Manny Bitz (Shut down line vs Opp. L1/L2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hyzer Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I think that Schroeder is too small and will be another Mason Raymond. We need big, fearless monsters with soft hands that can snipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Påhlsson Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I think that Schroeder is too small and will be another Mason Raymond. We need big, fearless monsters with soft hands that can snipe. So do 29 other teams. But on that note why don't we just give Schroeder stilts and hand lotion. Problem? Solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Nathan Gerbe 3 inches shorter, is an effective player for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanj Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I think that Schroeder is too small and will be another Mason Raymond. We need big, fearless monsters with soft hands that can snipe. good luck getting that. Gillis is hoping Kassian can become that. Not very many big skilled guys become available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyzer Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 good luck getting that. Gillis is hoping Kassian can become that. Not very many big skilled guys become available. Hell, I'm sure hoping Kassian turns into that. Imagine if he beefs up a few pounds? He's already proven his hands in Junior's with the size he's git. Here's hoping, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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