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While I Disagree With Shanny's Decision, He's Not The Enemy Of The Game Here.


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#31 The Magician

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:07 PM

Hey, did you guys know that Bettman and Marchand are related? Just look at their damn noses... :bigblush:


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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:12 PM

IMO, anyone who is aiming for the head with intent to injure should have a 5 game suspension minimum. If there is an injury, the player who injured the other should be suspended for as long as the other player is out with a concussion, plus 5 games.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:44 PM

The refs wanting to "even out" the game is pathetic. If a team is undisciplined and are taking penalties, call it like you should, and make them suffer. By allowing them to get away with infractions, why bother?

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:53 PM

There is an old adage that says .. "if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem" .. until he proves otherwise, Shanahan is part of the problem.

If he feel strongly enough about doing his job properly, then he must stand up for the integrity of the game, or quit. Make a statement if you care, because if you don't, Shanny, you come across as an NHL shill, thus no better than Buttman or Campbell.

Crunch time and Shanny has been found lacking.



So very well said.

The whole idea of getting Shanny into place was to offer some new perspective, direction and changes.

Started out swinging, is now sort of coasting. Not good enough.

If you're having to constantly issue these suspensions and we still have "repeat offenders", that means you're not getting it right (yet). So you have to amp it up a bit because there's no real margin for error here when it's the players' safety at risk when you do drop the ball. Anything unnecessary (like this headshot) should have already been a thing of the past. Shouldn't be much opportunity FOR repeat offenders. A zero tolerance would be nice.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:38 PM

It's been a joke...HNIC Game Day, just said Keith should have been given 8+ games...and without Daniel the Canucks will be knocked out of the playoffs. Lets hope Daniel can return before the playoffs and were off to the cup.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:40 PM

Thing I don't understand; is that play in the preseason, Us vs. Calgary, our player was checked into the boards, don't think there was an injury; but there was a three game suspension.

How is a deliberate elbow only worth two more games against our star player?
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:10 PM

I think the OP has the right of it. Shanny tried ti initiate a new standard for suspensions, starting with the 8 games to Wiz.

Enter the GMs who told him (through Bettman or Daly most likely) that he was going too far and we have totally inadequate decisions like the one made on Keith.

One would think that the NHL would look at the recent decision by the NFL and realize what a joke this makes them. Professional hockey will never rival any of the other big three as long as this Mickey Mouse mentality prevails.
Orland Kurtenbach and Dennis Kearns had just been torched 8-1 by the Habs, but they still took time to come out to meet us, some fellow BC boys who were playing hockey in Montreal. THAT"S what being a Canuck is!

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:12 PM

What i want to see is a completely independant from any leagues payroll.. International professional Ice hockey Referee Association.
have the best of the best refs from around the world doing games from all major hockey leagues.
that way they don't have the time to get involved in the Soap opera that is the NHL.
and there would be less bias in NHL and international games.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:32 PM

True, that was a poor choice of words, what I meant was something far beyond what we're used to seeing. Keith's elbow, while brutal, was unfortunately nothing new.


Agreed . This is par for the course in nhl ... Not surprised at all. Bush league , anything goes except wat the league blindly sees as retaliation which is not what those morons see as the Keith elbow but what the canucks do in response. Its like watching retarded monkeys run a sports league

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:36 PM

The league needs to take deliberate hits to the head or deliberate attempts to injury alot more serious. First off, any deliberate hit to the head or any hit that is deemed an attempt to injury regardless of whether the player recieving the hit is injuried should be a minimum of 5 games.

If the player recieving the hit is injuried, the player that gave the hit will be suspended a minimum of 5 games. In cases where the injured player is out more than 5 game, the suspension will last for same amount of games that the injured player must take to recover from their injury and return to play. Foremore a 500,000 dollar fine will be given to the player deemed to have caused an deliberate hit with the intentions of causing injury.

Every day over the 5 day mark will add an additional fine to the player deemed to have caused a deliberate injury ; this fine will be calculated based on the injuried player's salary, where the player who caused the injury will be fine 20 percent of the injured players salary for the time deemed unable to play.
This fine will be paid to the injured player.

The NHL team of the player whom is deemed to have deliberately attempt to injure will also be charged two million dollars and an additional one hundred thousand for every game the injured player is out past the 5 day mark. This fine will be paid evenly to the 29 other NHL teams .

The player deemed to have caused a deliberate hit with the intention to cause injury will make a public
apology to the player, fans and the NHL.

If the player is a multi-offender, then that player and the organization that has hired him will have to seek professional help in anger management. This help will only be allowed to come into play, after the full suspension has been served.


In a case where the injury is career ending, the player causing the injury will also have his career ended. The organizations of both players will also be affected, by way of drafts picks, where up to 5 first round draft picks will be stripped away from the organizations deemed to have the player causing a career ending injury and given to the organizations of the player with the career ending injury.

This decision will not take place until two years after the deemed injury, to make sure the player is indeed unable to return to play. Draft picks will be based on the age and level of the player injuried.

I know a little over the top!

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:59 PM

In the refs defence, hits like these happen within a split second and they may not be looking either which is why they aren't called properly.

This is why coaches should be able to give it to the refs, let them know what they missed and they can check it on replay to penalize a hit like this fairly on the ice. Shanahan has hours to look over the tape, the refs are too busy focussing on the play unfolding to notice hits away from the puck anyway. Video replay would make this fairer, because a 2 minute penalty for an intentional headshot like that is a joke.

I still believe something like that deserved a 5 minute major, game misconduct and 10 game suspension. The only thing Keith could have done that is worse than a deliberate elbow to the head with intent to injure is what Bertuzzi did.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:22 PM

Chara's hit on the Montreal player into the board / pillar (was it Pacoretty ?) wasabsolutely brutal, if we want to be defining it. Much more violent than Kieth's hit. Same with Rome's hit on Horton. No it's not an unfair conversation; the difference is intent and how close to a regular hockey play it was?

Repeating myself, the difference is intent. Clearly Kieth was not making a hockey play so the suspension is justified, and it was violent enough. While many CDC'ers disagree with me, I did not have a problem with the suspension for Rome's hit, although perhaps too long. The "intent" was not as obvious, but it was highly violent & we are trying to get guys to respect each other. I am a supporter of erring on the side of suspending so it does send the message! The concept of intent obviously should lead to more severe penalties.

Wonder if Shanny would have suspended Eager's hit on Sedin from behind, Boychuck's hit on Raymond (which was late & not a hockey play; key problem was it did not look particularly violent even though the injury was severe) or Chara's hit???


True, that was a poor choice of words, what I meant was something far beyond what we're used to seeing. Keith's elbow, while brutal, was unfortunately nothing new.



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Posted 24 March 2012 - 06:07 PM

Ron Maclean said on HNIC... said 'Keith' should have gotten 15 to 20 games for his hit on Daniel...'CBS CARES.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:02 PM

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