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Nail Yakupov Might Be In Our Future


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#91 canucks_dynasty

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:57 AM

...hmm The only reason I think that this might not happen is just because we are division rivals....but come on Devan is not even a top 15 Goalie...It is very hard to win a Cup with an average NHL goalie...and I think they are trying to move this pick and thay want Ryan Murray...Eberle will never be moved off the first line...so Yakupov will be a second liner his whole career...just saying


I guess that means Malkin wants out of Pittsburg cuz he'll always be a 2nd line centre after Crosby.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:58 AM

...hmm The only reason I think that this might not happen is just because we are division rivals....but come on Devan is not even a top 15 Goalie...It is very hard to win a Cup with an average NHL goalie...and I think they are trying to move this pick and thay want Ryan Murray...Eberle will never be moved off the first line...so Yakupov will be a second liner his whole career...just saying


Ryan Murray makes not a lot of sense. Sure the Oilers need D, but D take longer to develop. By the time Murray develops, the Oiler forwards would have been at their peak for quite some time. It makes more sense to draft Yakupov and trade assets to acquire that stud D who is already 4-5 years into their development. Pick the asset in your pool that you could live with not building your team around and go from there. Hence with Hall's shoulder and head injuries, I'd be thinking about moving him. If Nashville can't afford to keep Weber, maybe that deal would make sense to both parties. Hall and another decent level 2 prospect for Weber.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:07 AM

omg, people, there is no way, that this deal can happen unless we have a middle team to fiddle with both parties. This is just a silly thread. would have been a much better one if you said "CS for Nash".

and there are plenty of "CS trade" threads out there.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:07 AM

I guess that means Malkin wants out of Pittsburg cuz he'll always be a 2nd line centre after Crosby.


....not saying that...Crosby is top 5 talent wise....and I love Eberle but he is not top 5...just saying...prob not even top 10

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:09 AM

omg, people, there is no way, that this deal can happen unless we have a middle team to fiddle with both parties. This is just a silly thread. would have been a much better one if you said "CS for Nash".

and there are plenty of "CS trade" threads out there.


No do you here what CBS wants for Nash....way tooo much...2 top 25 prospects, 1 superstar in the NHL now and a top 15 pick....that is way too much!!!!

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:13 AM

Ryan Murray makes not a lot of sense. Sure the Oilers need D, but D take longer to develop. By the time Murray develops, the Oiler forwards would have been at their peak for quite some time. It makes more sense to draft Yakupov and trade assets to acquire that stud D who is already 4-5 years into their development. Pick the asset in your pool that you could live with not building your team around and go from there. Hence with Hall's shoulder and head injuries, I'd be thinking about moving him. If Nashville can't afford to keep Weber, maybe that deal would make sense to both parties. Hall and another decent level 2 prospect for Weber.


well Weber is a FA this offseason I think and I think Hall is the weakest link there right now just because of the Shoulder and the Concussion injuries...I think they have to try to move him if they do not go down the draft...lol...just very little defensive talent on that team

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:20 AM

well Weber is a FA this offseason I think and I think Hall is the weakest link there right now just because of the Shoulder and the Concussion injuries...I think they have to try to move him if they do not go down the draft...lol...just very little defensive talent on that team


Thats why I said I'd think about trading Hall too. If I were Edmonton, RNH and Eberle are the forwards IMO I'd be building the team around. Everyone else I'd be willing to move for that piece. Hall would land a BIG return.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

And where does Kane play? Sometimes first line, sometimes 2nd depending on opponent. And if Edmonton gets him who drops down to 2nd line? Hall or Eberle? Therefore Yakupov is nested on the 2nd line.

I lold are you calling Kane a 2nd line winger based on the fact that the Hawks roll two lines? I guess one of Crosby/Malkin is a second line center then.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:48 PM

We shouldn't trade Schneider to a division rival. Could screw us in the later years.


NOT if Yakupov's coming the other way. Goal scoring will not be an issue with this kid.

Modern day version of Pavel Bure.

Edited by Dasein, 18 April 2012 - 12:48 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:06 PM

I don't believe any of this for a second. Sounds like fantasy, but I'll say this for fun.

I could certainly handle Cory in Edmonton's net if it meant the first pick for us

But it's not happening unless we have a sweeter deal then that

Edited by TimberWolf, 18 April 2012 - 01:06 PM.

I was saying Lu-Urns...

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:10 PM

I didn't realize that you're an expert hockey analyst and professional scout. I guess Bob McKenzie, Craig Button and all the top scouts must be wrong because they all list Nail Yakupov as consensus number one rank for the upcoming draft. Please share with us your credentials so that we can bow down before you and raise you up on a pedestal.


Played Junior and Senior AAA hockey, co-owned a junior franchise, Head coach at junior level, assistant GM at junior level, acted as agent for a young goalie (got him a contract in Italy's second division...playing against players like Jari Kurri)...okay your turn. Anyways, all I'm saying is that somebody has to go #1 in the draft...does that mean he's as good as other #1 picks...no. And this year is a weak draft. Again, the hockey experts are only stating who the top picks will be, I don't believe any of them are sticking their collective necks out too far by predicting what this kid will be or what he'll do. I like the fact that he came over here and played a couple of years of junior, but if I personally have to make a prediction about this kid it's this:
Year 1: stuck on 2nd line in AHL
Year 2: plays part of year in AHL after being sent down, bolts to KHL for more money and we never hear of him again.

Remember when we all thought Shirokov was the second coming of Bure? Where's he now?
The whole thread (and many, many other threads about this kid) was about trade possibilities, and again my (semi-expert) opinion is...don't over-pay for this relatively unknown (who knows how he'll pan out). I wouldn't trade Cory for him and I definitely wouldn't trade Lu or Edler (as someone suggested above) for him. If we made a move for him, I'd package up a deal so that we have some compensation in case he bolts to KHL (ie/ Raymond and Ballard for 1st and Petry or Teubert)...just covers our butts. If Edmonton doesn't want a deal like that, then just walk away, we're better off staying put than risking valuable assets.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:18 PM

Shirokov was nothing close to a top 10 pick. Just Canuck homers making wild accusations. Such as Raymond being the next Bure cuz he's fast.

And Edmonton doesn't need Schneider. Nor is Schneider worth a top 5 pick.

Edited by Raph, 18 April 2012 - 01:19 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:41 PM

...hmm The only reason I think that this might not happen is just because we are division rivals....but come on Devan is not even a top 15 Goalie...It is very hard to win a Cup with an average NHL goalie...and I think they are trying to move this pick and thay want Ryan Murray...Eberle will never be moved off the first line...so Yakupov will be a second liner his whole career...just saying


I suggested moving Hall - leaving a spot for Nail on the top line.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:44 PM

Edmonton is too stupid. They'll keep the pick

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:50 PM

Edmonton is too stupid. They'll keep the pick

Enlighten us as to why it would be stupid to keep the pick.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:53 PM

Enlighten us as to why it would be stupid to keep the pick.


I would think it depends if Edmonton would like to tank one more season for the next pick. If not, they'll shore up their back end.

I was saying Lu-Urns...

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 03:53 PM

Thats why I said I'd think about trading Hall too. If I were Edmonton, RNH and Eberle are the forwards IMO I'd be building the team around. Everyone else I'd be willing to move for that piece. Hall would land a BIG return.



O yes no doubt about it...but hall i think will never live up to potential

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 03:55 PM

I suggested moving Hall - leaving a spot for Nail on the top line.


I think that that would be a good idea but I think EDM in general likes Hall despite his risk factor




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