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#61 marleau_12

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:00 PM

What if despite having his brothers in Carolina he hates it there?

There's no guarantee he'll sign in Carolina long term either. It's just a greater chance than staying in Pittsburgh.

Gillis wouldn't make the deal unless he knew he could sign Staal to a contract extension. But he's been traded so that ends that.

I doubt he'll be unhappy playing alongside his brother. I reaaaally doubt it.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:01 PM

Good decision for Gillis not to accept. Jordan wouldn't have resigned
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:02 PM

I guess it would be hard on MG to lock up Staal, Burrows and Edler all in one year

And Schroeder and Tanev, cause they're gonna be stars too. :P :P :P
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:03 PM

Also, if what you say is true about Staal only wants to play in Carolina, I think the Hurricanes GM should of waited to sign him in 2013 instead of give away huge assets in Sutter and the 8th.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:05 PM

thank god kesler on crosbys wing or shutting down people for crosby would have been deadly
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:05 PM

Staal is 2" taller. 3 years younger and had almost the same stats in hits, points, and plus/minus as Kes this year.

What Staal has in his favour. This was as a 3rd liner as compared to second. Staal was one of the best players in Pittsburgh's playoff run. Staal is also more disciplined than Kesler.

Sorry Kes, I would have done that trade. In fact I would have traded Booth, Kesler, Higgins and Raymond for Neal and Staal and Despres.


Yup, people who think that Kes is too much to give don't really pay close attention to JS game.........he's as complete a player as there is in the NHL and he epitomizes character and leadership.......unlike Kesler (sorry folks, I love him, but he's not a good leader)

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:07 PM

Staal > Kesler.

More complete player IMO and can pass.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:11 PM

One thing I dont like about the 1 4 1 Staal for Kesler is the fact that I wouldnt want Kesler on Pittsburgh. I hate that team and want them to suffer. Crosby, Malkin, Kesler, Neal would be nutz. Kunitz-Crosby-Kesler

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:11 PM

He played against bottom pairing D because of the 2 better centers on his own team.

We would have had him for 1 year when he would've then left for Carolina.

Jeesh people.


you have no way of knowing that.......perhaps he, and his new bride, would have fallen in love with Vancouver and BC, and he'd certainly be coming into a situation with a greater chance of success than in Carolina. I can think of a lot of reasons why he'd resign.

I also don't see how Kesler is better.

I'd say they are equal offensively, though I think Staal has a higher ceiling, and is a better linemate tha Kesler
Staal is a bigger body, and more durable despite playingjust as physically
I'd say they are also equal defensively
Kes is probably a better skater, but Staal has better hockey IQ
Staal has a STANLEY CUP RING and is 4 years younger.

MG was crazy not to take this deal, imo

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:24 PM

Let's be honest here people...

They're nearly identical players. I'd rather have Kesler because he hits more and blocks more shots. He's a slightly better defensive player and a better skater.

Staal hasn't scored more than 28 goals (he would've had he been healthy last year) but he's likely facing bottom pairing defensive units because of the presence of Sid and Geno.

In no way, shape, or form would a Kesler for Staal swap make us better and as already mentioned his apparent commitment to Carolina only would've made the trade completely idiotic.

End of argument. Period.



I believe Kesler got more play time than Staal? More playtime = More points. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:28 PM

At the end of the day, the risk of Staal not resigning is too big. If he walked after next season, we lose two second line centres. Also, Jordan wants to play with his brother Eric, that's probably why MG didn't pull the trigger.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:35 PM

I sometimes wonder what goes through these GM's minds. My 3rd line center who is damn good and has 1/2 2nd line potential but hasn't shown it yet because he hasn't had the chance for your Selke winning heart and soul beast.

Its like the 5'6'' fat kid going up to the prom queen and saying lets go bang behind the bleachers...

umm did someone say something?

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:38 PM

And CDC's reaction when Staal, after playing for one season as a Canuck, is a UFA and decides to go to Carolina, would be what? And we have no Kesler at this point.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:41 PM

10-11 Kesler > Jordan Staal
11-12 Kesler < Jordan Staal

Depends which Kesler shows up this season (injury or not).

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:43 PM

If you knew you'd have Staal for an extension - I think you make that deal for sure. But without that guarantee, it's too risky. Doesn't really matter now anyway...

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:54 PM

Yeah Kesler is so much worse than Staal, I guess a 40 goal scorer and Selke winner isn't comparable to Staal right? :rolleyes:

EDIT: I'm happy we didn't do this trade by the way

Edited by .Naslund, 25 June 2012 - 10:55 PM.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:57 PM

I gotta admit - if Carolina woulda offered Sutter, their 8th and Dumoulin for Kesler... that would require some thinkin...


I completely agree with you. I thought that Carolina overplayed for Staal big time.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:00 PM

staal > kesler...if it was kesler straight up for staal we should've done it. But if Staal was going to not sign after the trade happened and leaves the canucks next year, then it would've been a stupid trade. But I'm sure Staal would've signed. He only said he wouldn't sign any contracts because he didn't want to resign with the Pens. If he had gotten traded to the canucks or any other team where he can play 1st or 2nd line center, he would sign after the trade I'm sure.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:08 PM

The thing that gives Kesler the edge over Staal imo is that he truly believes he's a Canuck.

Why give away someone who bleeds for the Canucks and is the heart and soul of the team for some guy who might not even re-sign? Give me a break guys, Kesler bleeds blue and even took a discount to stay here. Theres no way I give him up for Jordan Staal, not now, not ever.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:11 PM

The thing that gives Kesler the edge over Staal imo is that he truly believes he's a Canuck.

Why give away someone who bleeds for the Canucks and is the heart and soul of the team for some guy who might not even re-sign? Give me a break guys, Kesler bleeds blue and even took a discount to stay here. Theres no way I give him up for Jordan Staal, not now, not ever.


100%. Kesler would give everything to see this team succeed. He is the engine that gets them going.


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:12 PM

If it was Kesler for Staal straight up, Gillis dropped the ball

How? Gillis would've looked like an idiot giving a core part of our team for a 1 year rental.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:12 PM

Double post.

Edited by ButterBean, 25 June 2012 - 11:17 PM.


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:25 PM

Meh..can't be helped now. I would have done this trade only if Staal would have agreed to a long term extension with Vancouver.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:58 PM

Yeah Kesler is so much worse than Staal, I guess a 40 goal scorer and Selke winner isn't comparable to Staal right? :rolleyes:

EDIT: I'm happy we didn't do this trade by the way

CDC was saying Mike Richards > Ryan Kesler all along. That is until last year when Kesler scored 41, won the Selke, and went beastmode in the playoffs. Then everybody shut up about it, now it's Staal > Kesler. Endless cycle ..

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 11:59 PM

CDC was saying Mike Richards > Ryan Kesler all along. That is until last year when Kesler scored 41, won the Selke, and went beastmode in the playoffs. Then everybody shut up about it, now it's Staal > Kesler. Endless cycle ..

Richards did win a cup. Just sayin'................................
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:08 AM

100%. Kesler would give everything to see this team succeed. He is the engine that gets them going.


It's true that when Kesler is on his game he's a force to be reckoned with and can be a 1 man team. BUT he's also one of the leading reasons why players and fans around the league despite Vancouver. It's really a shame he embellishes and dives so often. I love Kes but sometimes I just can't stand him. Anyone remember this?


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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:10 AM

A Canucks writer on the internet. He has no sources.


Jeff Angus is just some dude trying to make a name for himself. He has no inside sources.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:39 AM

They are both great leaders, but IMO:

Defensively: Kesler>Staal
Offensively: Staal>Kesler

Kesler is a better shot blocker, a better checker, a better hitter, and took a hometown discount to stay with the organization.

Staal is a younger, bigger, a better playmaker, and still has room to blossom.

Again, it's just my opinion.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:40 AM

We would have to somehow get another brother Stall to keep him here.

Yeah right.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:49 AM

Richards did win a cup. Just sayin'................................

Colin Fraser won 2 cups....




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