Romney announces VP pick

[Tearloch7]

You are trying far too hard to troll me.

[Ghostsof1915]

It must be an honour similar to being appointed co-captain of the Titanic.

[Ghostsof1915]

[Buddhas Hand]

You aren't helping me out when I likely pay more in taxes than you do, especially paying for an entire family when I doubt you even come close to even paying for yourself. Good try though at the "sensitive" troll.

What have you done? Long ago I wrote Boxer, Feinstein, Pelosi, attented SF council meetings to see if they could expand county coverage but San Franciscans already pay out the ass just to live there hence why they lost population. After a while of trying I gave up thinking Americans would turn things around and join the rest of the world, thankfully already being Canadian it was a simple matter of deciding where we preferred to live. Also, we didn't just get healthcare the second we dropped back into Canada, we had to wait almost six months on private insurance.

I can see why you would chalk up Ryan to following the waves of the tea party and I wouldn't doubt that, but I'm more interested in what politicians do now and more recent history than how much George Bush neocon years which seem to be withering from the Republican party (and shifting to the Democrats). It's less and less of a reality of Ron Paul (or even Gary Johnson) making it as President than Ryan as VP, but even Republican candidates are starting to realize this pork is becoming less and less justifiable which is why they are getting on the bandwagon. I haven't seen a Democrat even begin to tackle the deficit by any margin since Clinton. Since the deficit and economy are directly related and of the utmost important issue, I look to that first rather than the typical, pointless, and distracting character evaluations so prevalent today.

[Mr. Ambien]

well for starters i do not have to write to my member of parliament , for all it's faults my country has a good healthcare system that has treated me well , that is one of the benefits of paying tax .

I have volunteered in my community , one example of this is a couple of rescue's which i particpated in at Mt.hotham , both times a man who was lost in the mountains was rescued by a mix of voulnteers and ski-patrollers .

I have also worked with handicapped skiers on a volunteer basis , and it was a very rewarding experience .

so you attempted to change your situation , you wrote a couple of letters , went to a couple of meetings and then gave up , that tells me a great deal about what sort of person you are .

when i was trying to change a particular thing in my world it invovled a 5 year battle with the ARC at Mt.hotham ,and the right i was fighting for still exists to this day .

you are an example of the , "it's all about me" type of person ,your lack of compassion and empathy for others is quite evident in your posts , you are part of the problem rather than being part of the solution .

[Buddhas Hand]

Until I see you sway over 50 million voters to think sensibly your up-one's-pedestal rant and pixel personality profiling doesn't amount to anything beyond overreaching ad hominem and hilarious self-aggrandising.

[Mr. Ambien]

you asked what i have done to change things and i replied , so do not come on with the self aggrandising BS .

but that all you ever do when you are confronted with facts you cannnot argue with ,you spew out a bunch of crap . but you are not to blame , one does not blame a dog for it's bad behaviuor , it is the owners responsibilty to train the dog correctly .

[Buddhas Hand]

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/rest my case

[Mr. Ambien]

and what case is that ?

[Mr. Ambien]

you asked what i have done to change things and i replied , so do not come on with the self aggrandising BS .

but that all you ever do when you are confronted with facts you cannnot argue with ,you spew out a bunch of crap . but you are not to blame , one does not blame a dog for it's bad behaviuor , it is the owners responsibilty to train the dog correctly .

[Mr. Ambien]

you asked what i have done to change things and i replied , so do not come on with the self aggrandising BS .

but that all you ever do when you are confronted with facts you cannnot argue with ,you spew out a bunch of crap . but you are not to blame , one does not blame a dog for it's bad behaviuor , it is the owners responsibilty to train the dog correctly .

[Buddhas Hand]

Translation: I'll ignore the facts presented to me declaring I trust an organisation that has just been proven to be highly erroneous in their figures versus what really gets spent, and just spend two days insulting a forum member because he's not excessively effeminate like I am while at the same time hypocritically declaring other person "spews crap".

Again.. /rest my case

Let me know when you can stand up on two legs, kiddo. I let you perpetuate the sideshow long enough.

[Buddhas Hand]

Translation: I'll ignore the facts presented to me declaring I trust an organisation that has just been proven to be highly erroneous in their figures versus what really gets spent (why religiously quote predictions when they are so far off? the CBO is about as non partisan as the Fed ), and just spend two days insulting a forum member because he's not excessively effeminate like I am while at the same time hypocritically declaring other person "spews crap".

Again.. /rest my case

Let me know when you can stand up on two legs, kiddo. I let you perpetuate the sideshow long enough.

[-DLC-]

I let you perpetuate the sideshow long enough.

And, with that, your focus seems less and less about the topic at hand and more at insulting and one up'ing other members in a move to get under their skin.

The warning earlier about insults seems to have been ignored and the feeble minded reference makes that evident.

To save this thread from being further derailed, the (one) member riling up several will be removed for a brief period...upon his/her return, please use the report button if any further personal attacks take place.

It's ok to attack an idea or post, however, when it comes with smiley faces and insults that hint at getting some kind of enjoyment out of upsetting others, it's then crossed over into trolling.

OK folks, last warning for everyone before we shut this one down....

[Slaytanic Wehrmacht]

you asked what i have done to change things and i replied , so do not come on with the self aggrandising BS .

but that all you ever do when you are confronted with facts you cannnot argue with ,you spew out a bunch of crap . but you are not to blame , one does not blame a dog for it's bad behaviuor , it is the owners responsibilty to train the dog correctly .

[Drybone]

Given I've lived over two decades in the US, am a dual citizen, only moving back to Canada last year, I'm pretty sure I'm well qualified to have an opinion on the subject, even though you wish to impose humorous conditions upon having an opinion so as there is nobody to disagree with you.

Of numerous issues, healthcare was the number one reason we moved back to Canada, anything short of universal is a joke, does not tabulate the actual costs of healthcare and the burden it provides not only upon the working class but taxpayers in general, and perpetuates private healthcare in the US which is far more costly and a worldwide joke. Obamacare is not universal healthcare, not even close. Obamacare is a subsidy to private insurance companies and a heavy cost to taxpayers without a "realized" (in monetary terms) offset, and is another corporatist piece of legislation. It's like socialising auto insurance in Ontario with the current state of anticompetitiveness and price gouging. The sooner Democrats begin to realize Obama is as much a spend thrift war mongering corporatist as much as Bush and Romney were/are (never), the better off they'll be in perhaps finding some other candidate to vote for ( ).

Right now the US cannot afford the expenditures, the expenditures come first, which are realised before these supposed projected revenues the CBO is terrible at projecting come in, so if the revenues don't come in, surprise surprise, another trillion down the crapshoot. Before a single penny more is spent on health care the US needs a system that identifies and reduces the costs of providing healthcare and prescriptions rather than keeping it the way it is now, except mandatory private insurance, and just tossing the egregious bill to taxpayers and businesses. That's not a solution at all. That's making the problem way worse. I feel very sorry for people who still live in the US who are going to be levied with such an astronomical debt and valueless dollar due to voting for and allowing these politicians to get away with what they're doing. Even if Ryan's vision is short sighted to some degree, the best thing the US can do to salvage it's economic future is get it's deficits under control and offset them, tossing Obamacare onto the pile of debt already ridiculous amounts is a terrible idea.

[Slaytanic Wehrmacht]

Edited for content by my conscience.

[Sharpshooter]

I signed into my account to specifically reply to this post. I was busy reading the apparent 'opinions' of kids living in Canada or otherwise much to my amusement .

Then I run into this post where this guy seems to know exactly what he is talking about and in fact, this is what I see as someone who has lived in both countries and lived under both sets of medical conditions for decades at a time.

I can assure you that the Presidents plan does nothing but force people to buy a private product for profit. This was done due to political will unable to garner a 'public option.

Ahd the last gasp was the medicaid angle but SCOTUS threw it out stating the feds cant force the states to expand their medicaid.

I am a huge proponent of single payer , but the only way to beat the insurance lobby is to do this. Have each state have its own single payer system and those who travel outside their state must purchase private insurance to cover them while in another state.

[Buddhas Hand]

I signed into my account to specifically reply to this post. I was busy reading the apparent 'opinions' of kids living in Canada or otherwise much to my amusement .

Then I run into this post where this guy seems to know exactly what he is talking about and in fact, this is what I see as someone who has lived in both countries and lived under both sets of medical conditions for decades at a time.

I can assure you that the Presidents plan does nothing but force people to buy a private product for profit. This was done due to political will unable to garner a 'public option.

Ahd the last gasp was the medicaid angle but SCOTUS threw it out stating the feds cant force the states to expand their medicaid.

I am a huge proponent of single payer , but the only way to beat the insurance lobby is to do this. Have each state have its own single payer system and those who travel outside their state must purchase private insurance to cover them while in another state.

[Slaytanic Wehrmacht]

I cannot afford health insurance but i have a medicare card , this card enables me to get health care . one of the duties of an australian is to pay tax , and one of the benefits of paying tax is, that if you cannot afford healthcare the tax's you pay enable you to have your health care taken care of by the medicare system .

this is a goverments duty to it's citizens , to look after them , and i must say that even though i have heard some horror stories my interaction with our public health care system has been a good one . i have only the the greatest respect for the doctors and nurse's who have treated me kindly , courteously and professionaly .

maybe america should look at our system , and maybe if you did not invade oil rich countries on the pretext of looking for weapons of mass destruction , and spending trillions in the process , then maybe your government would have the money to implement a proper health care system and no one would be left behind .