bobby loocid dreamer Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Blockbuster time! To VAN: Jarome Iginla To CAL: Alex Edler, Mason Raymond Why for Van? A well rounded star to fill out the top 6. He wants a go at the Stanley Cup. Would look scary on either Sedin's or Kesler's wing. He has one year left and you know he will sign at a discount in order to chase a ring or two. Edler is a heavy price to pay but we can drop him now that we have Garrison. Why for Cal? Its time for a rebuild. Building their defense around Edler and Wideman is a positive first step. They love their leader in Iginla and I think Feaster respects him enough to let him go for a Cup (think Bourque and Boston). 2 young highly skilled plays for one aging one is a good return. To VAN: Jose Theodore, Keaton Ellerby, 1st Round Pick. To FLA: Roberto Luongo, Kevin Connauton Why for Van? I think we are all realizing that Roberto does not demand the return we would all want for him. A solid experienced back up, a big strong young stay at home defenseman with upside and a 1st round pick is a solid return. Why for Fla? They land an excellent goaltender who played his best hockey in Florida. Connauton is an average prospect but he would blunt the loss of Ellerby. Sedin-Sedin-Burrows Booth-Kesler-Iginla Higgins-Schroeder-Hansen Weise-Lapierre-Kassian Malhotra-Volpatti Bieksa-Hamhuis Ballard-Tanev Garrison-Ellerby Alberts Schneider-Theodore 23 Man Roster 2012/13 Cap Hit: 66.41 Million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Fresh Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Hell no to the first deal. As much as I love and respect Iggy, I'd rather have 10+ more years of Edler over maybe 3 or 4 with Iginla. As for the second deal, I wouldn't mind it. As long as we get a 1st round draft pick with a Luongo trade, I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Bond Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Has it not already been confirmed that Theodore WILL NOT waive his no-trade clause to come here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I'd rather not watch Edler become the "focal point" of a rebuild in Calgary...eeeeyuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Calgary isn't rebuilding, no matter how much they should be. Theodore don't want to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 If Iggy was 7 years younger, then I'd probably do the trade. But a big NO to both deals. Luongo can get much more than what you are proposing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Personally, I would consider the first one only if Edler wont sign for what Gillis can afford. The second deal I do not like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 we get raped in both deals lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Don't give up on Connauton. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Bend over MG cause Feaster and Tallon are feeling randy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durl Dixsun Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Honestly both deals suck Iginlas got 2-3 years left Second deal we give up too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheels22 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I wouldn't trade Edler AND Connauton... We would need Connauton in the future to fill in the offense that Edler provides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 "N" to the first, as in Not going to rent Iginla by paying them Edler to build around "O" to the second, as in Oh how people undervalue Luongo here, once teams get desperate in net they'll want him. Lu and Connauton for Theodore, Ellerby and 1st? REALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnieds Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 You guys have no idea who Jarome Iginla is. He's old. So what? You want someone younger like Crosby? One hit to the head and he's on the shelf for 4 months. You guys know how many games Iggy has missed in the last DECADE? I'll give you a hint, it's less than what Crosby missed last season. Iggy has missed 20 games in the last 10 years! He's scored 30 goals or more a season since about 1974 and that is playing with a bunch of nobodies. My apologies to Craig Conroy and Olli Jokinen. He's what every hockey player should aspire to me. Tough, can defend himself, score, passing ability, leadership etc. Look up the word "consistent" in the dictionary and you'll probably see a pic of Iginla. He's everything you want in a hockey player and you guys won't trade him for Edler? You kidding me? Marchand tries to pull that crap with Iggy? He'll be on his ass way before his gloves touches Iggy's face. Well it doesen't matter, cuz the chances of him ever leaving Calgary is about maybe 2% and the chances of him in a nuck uniform is way below zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnieds Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 "N" to the first, as in Not going to rent Iginla by paying them Edler to build around "O" to the second, as in Oh how people undervalue Luongo here, once teams get desperate in net they'll want him. Lu and Connauton for Theodore, Ellerby and 1st? REALLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Nobody is undervaluing Luongo here. We're just being realistic as to what return we can get for him and what an opposing GM will offer for him. If you guys say you don't want Iggy cuz he's too old, why would another team want Luongo and his 10 year contract at 5.3M a seaon when Luongo's only 2 years younger than Iggy? If Tallon won't give up Bjudstad for Luongo, what makes you think he'll give up Theodore, Ellerby and a 1st for Luongo and Connauton? In a deep draft like the upcoming one, I'll take that package over Bjudstad anyday, but Tallon isn't stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 @Schneids Edler is way younger than Iginla. I would rather not give up our best defenceman for a forward we get for 2-3 years. Edler for 10 more years > Iginla for 2-3 more years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnieds Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 @Schneids Edler is way younger than Iginla. I would rather not give up our best defenceman for a forward we get for 2-3 years. Edler for 10 more years > Iginla for 2-3 more years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I would have probably done the first trade like 5 years ago, but not now. Also no to second deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby loocid dreamer Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 I feel like Schneids is on the right track. Our window is closing. Edler may be a stud in a few years but the twins will be well past their prime and Kesler is already breaking down. We need to make a sacrifice on our future to get to the glory land in our present. If we are happy making the playoffs for the next 10 seasons then don't make these trades. But I think we all want the Stanley Cup and that means making one last big push now. That is what this proposal is. Understand that good teams (like us) dont win the Cup. Great teams win the Cup. Lets make us great, lets win the Stanley Cup a couple times then lets rebuild and start all over. Its the way of the NHL now. If you realize that you realize that our window is closing and if we dont act now we turn into Calgary- a team too old to compete and too stupid to realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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