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#61 Erik Karlsson

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 01:06 PM

Injury prone much? And for the people who think the lockout is a blessing, it's really not. Kesler has had surgery on both hips, his shoulder, and now his wrist. You never really seem to recover 100% from these things, and even if he like recovered 95-99% of the way he was before, with so many surgeries, to so many areas, it's really just going to chip away.

His shoulders and wrist will likely bugger up his shot, which considering last year, was already kind of buggered up. His hips will hurt his speed and a lot of his core strength. Could be worse, could be his knee but.. kinda like Havlat and Gaborik. They were really good players, and then had so many problems with nagging injuries it just took away from them in a big way.

Our second line already blew, and another year passed without MG doing anything about it. And now we have a diminishing Kesler, and an aging set of twins on the top line. Our prospect pool is pretty pathetic.. so yeah. The window probably already passed, but get ready for some mediocre hockey in the next few years if some trades or amazing signings don't happen very quickly.


This, I think one of the smartest things we can do is trade the Sedins before they retire so we can atleast get something, After them we are done, Kesler is going to be half the player he was, he does't play a skilled game, he plays hard and gritty which is going to make it worse.

Everyone's going to say the Sedins should retire here.. but really who cares? Did Naslund? Ohlund? Salo? Bertuzzi? Sedins are going to decline soon and they already don't play a game suited well for the playoffs.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 01:36 PM

This, I think one of the smartest things we can do is trade the Sedins before they retire so we can atleast get something, After them we are done, Kesler is going to be half the player he was, he does't play a skilled game, he plays hard and gritty which is going to make it worse.

Everyone's going to say the Sedins should retire here.. but really who cares? Did Naslund? Ohlund? Salo? Bertuzzi? Sedins are going to decline soon and they already don't play a game suited well for the playoffs.


No, just no.

The Sedins will retire as Canucks.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:43 PM

No, just no.

The Sedins will retire as Canucks.


Yeah, that's why the nucks won't ever win a cup. Don't beleive me? I'll bring this back up once the Sedins are gone. Hockeys a physical game and when the leaders on your team get ragdolled by every player, even by a midget rat (Marchand) it's disheartening to the rest of the team and doesn't send a very good message. They play a lot 5 on 5. Their cycle game doesn't work in the playoffs and they don't hit, so really it's just a plus for the other team 5 on 5 in the playoffs against the Sedins. Unless they stick Kassian with them...

The only way the canucks will ever win the cup with the Sedins is if Gillis gets his sh!t together and gets a decent second line and some BIG GRITTY bodies. He seems to think Raymond and Higgins are good enough second liners and we are going to go nowhere with them. If they play Kassian with the Sedins then my faith will be a little bit more restored with AV and Gillis. He's the perfect linemate for them, just needs time to develop with them and create chemistry. This is only if Kassian looks good enough when the season starts.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:51 PM


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Posted 02 October 2012 - 05:31 PM

How does this affect his Salary when you have a lockout? Players don't get paid during a lockout! Some injuries take longer then expected.


It doesnt affect his salary and yes, he will be paid as he is injured.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 05:40 PM

This, I think one of the smartest things we can do is trade the Sedins before they retire so we can atleast get something, After them we are done, Kesler is going to be half the player he was, he does't play a skilled game, he plays hard and gritty which is going to make it worse.

Everyone's going to say the Sedins should retire here.. but really who cares? Did Naslund? Ohlund? Salo? Bertuzzi? Sedins are going to decline soon and they already don't play a game suited well for the playoffs.

Thank God you aren't our GM lol :picard: The Sedins will never be traded and will retire as Canucks. End of story.

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 07:17 PM

He's a professional athlete he can come back the same. And it's a small setback, oh well. Help us win soon Kes.
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:11 PM

On the plus side. If we have a full season lockout. Look how great Selanne played when he got back and he was 100% healthy.
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:12 PM

i smell a whole buncha trade kesler threads and proposals...

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:25 PM

Thank God you aren't our GM lol :picard: The Sedins will never be traded and will retire as Canucks. End of story.


You're in the wrong section, you should be making more sh*tty trade proposals that wouldn't even work on NHL 13.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

Funny how the team thought he would be ready for the start of the season, and so did he after the surgery.
Then as soon as most people started realizing the possibility of the lockout, he hit a snag in his rehab.
Now he's not ready till January.

Weird thing is, injured players still get paid. Smart move by Keslers' agent. I remember how strange it was back in the summer when his agent freaked out when the Canucks' said he might be ready for October. Jumping up and down saying "No, No, NO!!!!"

I would be willing to bet if the lockout suddenly ended in late November, Kesler would be good to go.


These are my thoughts too. I think it's perhaps one Canuck making the most of the media, similar to Luongo speaking to the media to try to pressure a trade.

Of course Kesler is saying all of this to the press to ensure his salary stays on the books. You would too, if it meant millions of dollars to have a prolonged injury. Now that's in the press, it's evidence.
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:50 PM

You're in the wrong section, you should be making more sh*tty trade proposals that wouldn't even work on NHL 13.

Bud, dont wuss out of an argument by bringing my proposals into it. You're just saying that to make your god awful, ridiculous idea of trading the Sedins not look as bad as it really is. Obvious troll is obvious.

Edited by Steven Stamkos' Mullet, 02 October 2012 - 09:51 PM.

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:13 AM

yeah it was , hodgson was lucky to get the points he did and is one foligno hit away from being in a hospital bed for the rest of his life

screw that fragile douche , id rather have a goon / pf in kassian then a feline little hodgson getting his daddy to solve all his problems

im sure most of you can relate tho , whiney little bitch ass daddy boys

Shss.. dont say that you will get a reave of stats about his junior career and his rise to be the next captain of the Canucks. Better to keep that big can of worms under the bed.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 08:58 AM

yeah it was , hodgson was lucky to get the points he did and is one foligno hit away from being in a hospital bed for the rest of his life

screw that fragile douche , id rather have a goon / pf in kassian then a feline little hodgson getting his daddy to solve all his problems

im sure most of you can relate tho , whiney little bitch ass daddy boys


Keep in mind that all players are just one hit away from never playing again.
Though the odds for a sammi injury maybe higher. :)
And this whole Hodgson the whiner stuff is based on one guy saying stuff about him.
That guy happens to be the GM, hardly an unbiased viewpoint.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:48 AM

Yeah, that's why the nucks won't ever win a cup. Don't beleive me? I'll bring this back up once the Sedins are gone. Hockeys a physical game and when the leaders on your team get ragdolled by every player, even by a midget rat (Marchand) it's disheartening to the rest of the team and doesn't send a very good message. They play a lot 5 on 5. Their cycle game doesn't work in the playoffs and they don't hit, so really it's just a plus for the other team 5 on 5 in the playoffs against the Sedins. Unless they stick Kassian with them...

The only way the canucks will ever win the cup with the Sedins is if Gillis gets his sh!t together and gets a decent second line and some BIG GRITTY bodies. He seems to think Raymond and Higgins are good enough second liners and we are going to go nowhere with them. If they play Kassian with the Sedins then my faith will be a little bit more restored with AV and Gillis. He's the perfect linemate for them, just needs time to develop with them and create chemistry. This is only if Kassian looks good enough when the season starts.


You may have a point about the Sedins not being the toughest guys but anbody who believes a glove in the face is equal to getting ragdolled is absolutely ignorant when it comes to hockey. Either they are eating what the media feeds them, they've never played hockey, and/or haven't watched much either.

I do agree we need a second line though and I think Kassian (bigger body) would be a great fit with the Sedins but AV isn't insightful enough to try it out for more than 20 seconds so it'll never happen.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 11:38 AM

Hmmm really? Anything to do with the lockout? lol if it weren't a lock out he would skating before he's actually 100% as usual then he would be a team weakness...Go owners....~!

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:44 PM

Unless his wrist injury was as bad as Josh Holdens, I think he will be fine.

Players Nikolaj Ehlers have been compared too by the fan base of the Vancouver Canucks.

 

1 Pavel Bure

2 Markus Naslund

3 Nathan Mackkinon

4 Jonathan Drouin.

5 Jonathan Tavares

 

http://bleacherrepor...d-top-prospects

combine results.  Ehlers 5'11 162 lbs of solid rock.  





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