Joel Heyman Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 HOLDINGBREATHFINGERSCROSSEDTOESCROSSEDKNOCKONWOODBLOWINGAWAYEYELASHESWISHINGONASTARALLTHIScrapE pleasepleaseplease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun Warm and fuzzy feelings from last night are gone. Things are tense heading into tonight's meeting. Pivotal session that will tell the tale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 HOLDINGBREATHFINGERSCROSSEDTOESCROSSEDKNOCKONWOODBLOWINGAWAYEYELASHESWISHINGONASTARALLTHIScrapE pleasepleaseplease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Players and owners now in separate rooms talking things over. Perhaps conferring with other owners/players whether or not to accept a deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs2016 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Getting too invested emotionally in all this hype. It'll be a massive disappointment if negotiations go sour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 DeNiro, If I scroll over the underlined word "accept" in quoted post an add comes up. Never seen this before on CDC. Not sure you meant to do this or this is something CDC recently introduced to make $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobble Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Glued to all this despite knowing nothing will likely be released tonight. Should be studying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Getting too invested emotionally in all this hype. It'll be a massive disappointment if negotiations go sour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Sides exchange proposals The NHL and the NHL Players' Association exchanged "proposals" potentially to end the lockout Wednesday after the previous day's marathon session, multiple sources confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com. Although it is not believed the proposals are the formal, all-encompassing offers that have been traded -- and subsequently rejected -- in recent months, the NHL and the NHLPA exchanged ideas on key issues in multiple brief sessions. Following the NHL's board of governors meeting, the two sides reconvened Wednesday at the same midtown Manhattan hotel where they appeared to gain traction Tuesday. After the NHLPA expressed its position in the initial session, the league caucused internally and came back with a counter to the union. The exact issues addressed in each side's "offer" are not immediately known. The session has been described as "very delicate," a source inside the room told ESPN. Earlier Wednesday, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said he is "pleased with the process" -- even though he was left outside the latest rounds of discussions. Still stuck on the perimeter with players' association executive director Donald Fehr, Bettman made a brief statement Wednesday on the state of the ongoing lockout but declined to take any questions. A ray of hope that a season-saving deal could be made emerged late Tuesday night after about eight hours of bargaining. "We are pleased with the process that is ongoing, and out of respect for that process, I don't have anything else to say," Bettman said. Meanwhile, the Quebec Labour Relations Board granted a joint request from the NHL and NHLPA to postpone the hearing that was slated to take place Thursday and Friday, a source confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com. The hearing has been adjourned while the two sides focus on continued bargaining. Bargaining stretched on Tuesday night until about midnight, and it was clear progress was made when deputy commissioner Bill Daly stood side by side with union special counsel Steve Fehr and issued a rare joint status report. Negotiations took place in a pair of sessions that included various sized groups. The sides are trying to avoid another lost season. The NHL became the first North American professional sports league to cancel a full year because of a labor dispute in 2005. The deal reached then was in place until this September, and the lockout took effect on Sept. 16 after that agreement expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAH Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 The fastest way for deal to be done is to have the NHL accept a union proposal rather than the other way around. I am sure both sides are aware of this and if an agreement is reached this week it will likely be this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hmm it doesn't do that for me. I definitely didn't intend to do that. Not sure why that would happen. What it is it an ad for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vv2 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 From the article Bookie posted a couple of posts up its clear to me D Fehr and Bettman are involved again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 NHL, NHLPA exchange offers as tension rises in collective bargaining talks wave of optimism gave way to tension as the NHL and NHL Players' Association spent a second straight day trying to hammer out a collective bargaining agreement. The sides exchanged proposals during a series of brief meetings on Wednesday afternoon, according to sources, in a bid to close the final gap in negotiations that have spanned more than five months. The urgency was evident as a group of six league owners shuffled between internal meetings and short sessions with players and union staff at a hotel in midtown Manhattan. At one point, Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs could be seen having an animated conversation with deputy commissioner Bill Daly outside the negotiating room. Meantime, players paced the halls while speaking on their cellphones. Even though the specific details of the new offers weren't known, one aspect revealed another hurdle the sides have to cross -- the length of the deal. The league's proposal called for a 10-year term while the NHLPA continued to favour a shorter contract, according to sources. With tensions rising, commissioner Gary Bettman and NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr kept themselves out of negotiation sessions for a second straight day. However, Bettman did provide a brief update to reporters after a two-hour gathering of the Board of Governors, saying he was "pleased" with how things were progressing. That was about all he was willing to reveal. "We are pleased with the process that is ongoing and out of respect for that process I don't have anything else to say and I'm not going to take any questions," said Bettman. The two sides have cleared their schedules for the rest of the week after successfully getting an adjournment from Quebec Labour Board hearings that had been scheduled in Montreal for Thursday and Friday. That panel will only hear arguments about the legality of locking out members of the Canadiens if a deal can't be reached in the near future. There was a sense that remained a possibility following the first gathering of NHL owners since the lockout was enacted in September. "We feel good about the information we got," said Columbus Blue Jackets president John Davidson. Toronto Maple Leafs minority owner Larry Tanenbaum is one of six owners who became involved in the talks this week. "As long as we're talking, we're hopeful," he said. According to sources, the owners discussed a possible season that would span 50-plus games. There had been talk of a 60-game schedule in the event of a labour settlement, but the feeling among the group was that it would be too ambitious at this stage. Progress appeared to be made during more than eight hours of meetings on Tuesday that ended with NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr describing it as the best day yet in talks. It was difficult to carry that momentum through a second long day, especially with the league and union trading specific proposals and looking for compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looks like it will be approx. 50 game season starting around Xmas. Edit. 13 mins into after dinner meeting owners are out. This negotiation thing is more exciting than some of actual NHL games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looks like it will be approx. 50 game season starting around Xmas. Edit. 13 mins into after dinner meeting owners are out. This negotiation thing is more exciting than some of actual NHL games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Sides exchange proposals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 They left after 13 minutes? That's not a good sign... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas19 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 They left after 13 minutes? That's not a good sign... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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