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#61 higgyfan


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 03:32 PM

Why do you say that? Have you looked at the alternatives?

Schroeder............yeh right.
Higgins.........close but I think Manny has it on consistent points scoring despite injuries.
Lapierre ..........sorry, not even close.
Ebbett...........nope, although he would be my alternative.
Booth.........decent points return when fit but too poor defensively and no centre.
Hansen...........no centre but doesn't match Manny anyway.
Raymond.........decent consistent points but a bit lightweight for centre.

Believe it or not Manny's consistent points scoring from the 3rd line is pretty good. That might even improve on the 2nd and allied to his faceoff prowess what's not to like? As I've shown above we could do worse.

Definately before his injury, but I can't see him coming back to that level. I much prefer Higgins stats last year 71-18-25-43. I think Chris has found his place here in Van. If we could get a decent 2nd RW, I think our 2nd line could do ok until Kes is back.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 04:11 PM

Love Manny, I really do and we need him to be the player he was 2 seasons ago, but I don't ever want to see him at 2nd line center.

Shortened season, 2nd line needs to score...Manny doesn't help that. A fully capable Manny at 3rd line C would make me very very happy though.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:27 PM

Statistics look good but his play was downright pathetic at times last 2 seasons.Also AV or MG made reference to the fact injuries would not be used as an excuse last season.I believe that was made in reference to Kesler

True enough, he did have some bad moments last season, but in 10-11 his bad moments were few and far between. I think his previous play proves that (while healthy) he is capable of scoring at a ~0.85 ppg pace while still playing solid defence. Unless you are the Pittsburgh Penguins I don't think you can ask much more of your second line centre. I do agree with your philosophy however, no one should be garunteed a stop based on reputation and previous points. That being said, I can't forsee any centre on this team not named Henrik Sedin out preforming Kesler. I guess we will just have to wait and watch!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:41 AM

While I don't think he'll return to 10/11 form, I think Manny will have himself a bounce back year.
Just think, we had a great season even with an underperforming Booth, Raymond and Malholtra.

Even if just one or two of these guys bounce back, we'll be in great shape!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:32 AM

Watching Manny in the CDC vid of the players reactions to the shortened season, it struck me that this could be the season for him to make a major comeback.

He looked comfortable on the soccer field in the summer and he looks lean and ready to go in the interview.

Anyone else think he could still be our 2nd line centre? I would love to see him really break out with all guns firing. I still think his diving goal last season was in the top 3 goals scored by the Canucks.

All guns firing?

His career high is 35 points in one season... and that was 5 years ago when he still had two eyes.

I like him, but you're out to lunch.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:56 AM

Manny Article on TSN:


VANCOUVER -- Manny Malhotra has done enough negotiating -- for now.
After assisting in negotiations during the NHL lockout, the Vancouver Canucks centre is setting out to earn a new deal of his own. But he is putting any possible contract talks with general manager Mike Gillis on hold as the team prepares for the opening of a shortened season.
"The play comes first," said Malhotra. "My focus is strictly on performing to the best of my ability and helping the team any way that I can and any way that I'm asked."
But this is still a crucial season for Malhotra, who is playing out the final campaign on a three-year deal after two seasons of considerable adversity.
"Nothing changes as a player," insisted Malhotra, a 32-year-old veteran who served on the NHL Players Association's negotiating committee.
"Every year, your focus is the same. It's to contribute as much and as best you can to whatever the team needs you to do. That's not going to change this year."
He had to deal with a career-threatening eye injury in 2010-11, a summer of follow-up surgical procedures that limited his usual rigorous summer training program and then another long layoff during the lockout that lasted about four months.
But true to form, Malhotra, who has been a popular figure with teammates and fans since the day he arrived as a free agent from San Jose, downplayed his troubles.
"Like everyone facing adversity, it's been a challenge," said Malhotra. "It's just a matter of staying confident. ... Having positive people around me has been good, helping me train, helping me to get back to where I need to be, and helping me compete at the highest level."
The Mississauga, Ont., native made periodic trips to New York during the lockout, but stayed home at the end as his wife drew closer to delivering a baby. He is optimistic about having a strong bounceback season after producing seven goals and 11 assists while seeing limited minutes in a hybrid centre-wing role.
While often taking face-offs and ranking among league leaders in draws won, he patrolled the wing in primarily a fourth-line role as he struggled to regain the excellent conditioning that he had in the past. This season, it looks as though he will play the conventional centre role, again on the fourth line.
His comeback took on more significance Tuesday as it was learned winger David Booth will be out four to six weeks with a groin injury. Coach Alain Vigneault singled Malhotra out among players that he hopes will fill the scoring void created by Booth's absence from the second line. Malhotra indicated he is ready for any extra challenge -- or playing time.
"This summer, I had an opportunity to train the way I normally would," Malhotra said. "Two summers ago, I didn't. Throughout the course of the lockout, we had our core group of guys, eight or nine at a time, that were able to skate three or four times a week, and it turned into skating with the UBC men's team.
"So that was great for our preparation as far as just being on the ice and practising as part of a team, so it definitely helped to be as ready as we can."
So far, Vigneault likes what he has seen of Malhotra after months of not having contact with him.
"Manny's played real well so far and come into camp in great shape, whereas last year, obviously, because of the operations he had in the summer, he couldn't train." said Vigneault. "This year, his conditioning is real good, and so far in practices, he's looked real comfortable. So I think that's a positive for us."
The coach praised Malhotra for putting team first despite serious eye problems that the forward has not fully disclosed.
"Manny is a quality individual, and everything he does is about the team and his teammates," said Vigneault. "Obviously, he had a real serious injury that he's handled -- as well as anyone I've ever seen in my life."
Winger Aaron Volpatti, who has been playing alongside Malhotra on the fourth line, said the centre has served as source of inspiration as he battles back from his own serious injury. Volpatti is attempting a comeback after being sidelined last December with a shoulder injury.
He did not play in the minors during the lockout because the Canucks risked losing him on waivers if they tried to send him down, and bypassed lower-level European opportunities.
"He's a great mentor when it comes to (overcoming injuries)," said Volpatti. "My injury's not the same, but he's gone through a lot of adversity. For him to overcome that, it's pretty special."
As Malhotra continues his bounceback, he plans to let his play on the ice do his contract negotiating for him.
"That's usually the way it works," he said.
Notes: The Canucks will hold a simulated game day Wednesday with a morning skate, naps and night scrimmage. They will follow the same routine Thursday while preparing to start the regular season with back-to-back home games against Anaheim and Edmonton.

Edited by nuck nit, 16 January 2013 - 02:56 AM.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:19 AM

2knd line? Naaah! What is his career high, 35 points or something? He just does not have the hands or the instincts for a top 6 role where we need goal production... But Manny accepted that years ago and reinvented himself as one of the leagues best role players. That lean guy you looked at is also 220 lbs, and stronger and quicker than even guys like Joe Thornton, a reason he was a top 10 overall draft pick. Now he uses it to shut down Iginla, deliver pucks up to the offensive zone and get us draws for the Twins in the offensive zone.

So he can still be amongst our most valuable players. And Manny is pretty easy to like!

Watching Manny in the CDC vid of the players reactions to the shortened season, it struck me that this could be the season for him to make a major comeback.

He looked comfortable on the soccer field in the summer and he looks lean and ready to go in the interview.

Anyone else think he could still be our 2nd line centre? I would love to see him really break out with all guns firing. I still think his diving goal last season was in the top 3 goals scored by the Canucks.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:35 AM

Manny is and always was an important player for us. We missed his optimum game last season due to his lack of off season. He is back, I would suggest, reading the above, as good as ever and personally I can't wait.

My point about emergency 2nd line is partially alluded to by the poster above. Manny is a big powerful body and fearless.

Also as I have pointed out, but maybe most of you couldn't be bothered to read/check Manny is the most consistently "high" goal scorer in the list above...............so unless we are talking about moving Burrows to 2nd line centre he IS a candidate imo. Time will tell, I'm just happy at the thought of having him back and fully fit.

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