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MG should be on thin ice...

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Kassian is not a top 6 forward yet. On our lineup, he's still bottom 6. He has to work his way up. He's got the potential to BECOME a top 6 but he's not ready to take on a top 6 role yet.

With the injury to Booth, I expect he'll be getting top 6 minutes for the first month or so for obvious reasons but when our team is healthy, no, Kassian is not a top 6 forward at the moment

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If he blows this Loungo deal by not getting a scoring winger, a real prospect and a draft pick then he should be toast. He has already thrown away 2 very good players in Grabner and COHO for a bottom 6 forward, a number 7 dman and a "project". could you imagine if those 2 players were in the lineup today. Granted he's made some nice aquisitions in Hamius and Garrison, but is it just me, he seems not able to pull the trigger on landing a true top 6 forward(Booth is not a top 6, post concussion).

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Results since Gillis took over:

Year 1: won division, 3rd in conference, 7th overall, lost in 2nd round

Year 2: won division, 3rd in conference, 5th overall, lost in 2nd round

Year 3: first overall, lost in finals

Year 4: first overall, lost in first round

Year 5: TBA

those are some pretty solid results, how is that thin ice? Four straight division wins, never below 7th overall, averaging a second-round playoff appearance, that is pretty solid and we've had a legit shot at the Cup, been a contender every season.

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Gillis is just as over rated as Brian Burke when he took over the ducks. Ducks already had the pieces in place to win the cup.. burky made a couple deals and was hailed as all mighty.

Same as mg... except his team didn't win the cup. All theessential pieces where in place for mg to succeed

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THIS

:picard: OP fail..............sigh Post limit and IQ test PLEASE

I dont think the OP is a real fan........Grabner fit no where on this team and Hodgson wanted out..........KAssasin is a top 6 forward.........seems like trolling

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If he blows this Loungo deal by not getting a scoring winger, a real prospect and a draft pick then he should be toast. He has already thrown away 2 very good players in Grabner and COHO for a bottom 6 forward, a number 7 dman and a "project". could you imagine if those 2 players were in the lineup today. Granted he's made some nice aquisitions in Hamius and Garrison, but is it just me, he seems not able to pull the trigger on landing a true top 6 forward(Booth is not a top 6, post concussion).

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He was handed arguably the two most complete players in the NHL the paSt five years ... and certainly the most complete players in the history of Vancouver. (Sedins)

And the best or second best only to lundqvist goalie in the league the past 5 years.

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Do you know what "waiver eligible" means?

Do you know what "unhappy player" means?

Does 2 Presidents Trophies ring a bell?

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Though I think he's doing an ok job, the table was pretty well set for him before he got here, and he hasn't done a whole lot to improve on that.

Burke/Nonis

Sedins

Kesler

hansen

Burrows

raymond

Edler

Schneider

Luongo

Bieksa

MG

Hamhuis

Ballard

Malhotra

Higgins

Booth

Barker

Vandermeer

Kassian

Schroeder

Ebbett

Lapierre

Volpatti

Weise

Alberts

Garrison

It can easily be argued that this is still, primarily, Nonis and Burke's team and that Gilli's only major contribution that have worked out have been Hamhuis, Lapierre, Higgins and, to some degree, Malhotra

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Though I think he's doing an ok job, the table was pretty well set for him before he got here, and he hasn't done a whole lot to improve on that.

Burke/Nonis

Sedins

Kesler

hansen

Burrows

raymond

Edler

Schneider

Luongo

Bieksa

MG

Hamhuis

Ballard

Malhotra

Higgins

Booth

Barker

Vandermeer

Kassian

Schroeder

Ebbett

Lapierre

Volpatti

Weise

Alberts

Garrison

It can easily be argued that this is still, primarily, Nonis and Burke's team and that Gilli's only major contribution that have worked out have been Hamhuis, Lapierre, Higgins and, to some degree, Malhotra

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Okay, not even going to get into the Cody Hodgson thing. You obviously are short on hockey knowledge, give it a year or two here and see what happens. Make the comparison then, now it's just stupid and pointless.

This just in: GRABNER SUCKS !!! You obviously have no idea how to rate talent or understand how defence works so I'll leave it at that. Anyone that knows anything about managing a team can re-iterate why and when he was let go when he was. Many factors invovled. It was definitely the right move as we would have lost him anyway.

Booth is definitely still a top 6 player and you would have seen the numbers had he not gotten his knee cut out from under him in a dirty hit.

The one thing you got right is we desperately need a bonifide top 2 RW to play on the second line. However, they don't grow on trees and they are hard to trade for. I disagree with MG's moneyball vs skill approach but that's just opinion vs opinion. The one bonus I see in this approach is that we can have injury after injury occur and we still field a a competitive team that's hard to play against. Our team after 4 injuries is equivalent to most teams after 1.

He is not on thin ice. Who's going to replace him. Arniel? Burke?

He was handed arguably the two most complete players in the NHL the paSt five years ... and certainly the most complete players in the history of Vancouver. (Sedins)

And the best or second best only to lundqvist goalie in the league the past 5 years.

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"2 very good players in Grabner and COHO"

If you truly believe that, then anything else you ever post is suspect.

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Only Katie Couric gets to dictate what is on thin ice or not....

The idea that Gillis just inherited a great team is silly. We were terrible before the team was sold and the new owners tossed out Nonis and his master plan to win a cup building a team around Fabian Brunnstrom. The supporting additions that Gillis has brought in has transformed the team from basement trappers to a contender.

Now if we start to have losing seasons and Gillis can't do anything to fix it, then his job should be revisited, of course, but calling for his head now makes no sense and seems trying to hard to be negative.

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Perhaps mg should check out your be a GM roster on nhl13 ?

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"2 very good players in Grabner and COHO"

If you truly believe that, then anything else you ever post is suspect.

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Okay, not even going to get into the Cody Hodgson thing. You're obviously are short on hockey knowledge, give it a year or two here and see what happens. Make the comparison then, now it's just stupid and pointless.

This just in: GRABNER SUCKS !!! You obviously have no idea how to rate talent or understand how defence works so I'll leave it at that. Anyone that knows anything about managing a team can re-iterate why and when he was let go when he was. Many factors invovled. It was definitely the right move as we would have lost him anyway.

Booth is definitely still a top 6 player and you would have seen the numbers had he not gotten his knee cut out from under him in a dirty hit.

The one thing you got right is we desperately need a bonifide top 2 RW to play on the second line. However, they don't grow on trees and they are hard to trade for. I disagree with MG's moneyball vs skill approach but that's just opinion vs opinion. The one bonus I see in this approach is that we can have injury after injury occur and we still field a a competitive team that's hard to play against. Our team after 4 injuries is equivalent to most teams after 1.

He is not on thin ice. Who's going to replace him. Arniel? Burke?

He also retained those two most complete players when they were 75% out the door.

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He was handed arguably the two most complete players in the NHL the paSt five years ... and certainly the most complete players in the history of Vancouver. (Sedins)

And the best or second best only to lundqvist goalie in the league the past 5 years.

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Gillis was brought in during a time that this team wasn't in a rebuilding mode. It already had solid pieces in place. So to say that he shouldn't get credit because he didn't draft or sign all the players in the lineup is silly. He still has overhauled over 50% of this team in the last 5 years

He basically took a team that was already good, and made them great. Something that Nonis couldn't get done here; which is why he was canned.

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In order to get a top 6 forward you have to have the cap room to do the deal. You also have to obtain a top 6 player who really wants to come to Vancouver. A lot of players want to stay in the east where there is less travel and cheaper taxes.

Coho did not want to be in Vancouver and Grabner was not good enough or big enough (plus unproven) to take one of the top 6 forwards spots. Yes he is top 6 now but on a much weaker team.

MG has not done everything perfect but he has done much more stuff right than wrong.

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