Mr. Ambien Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 What is this law school doing even mentioning homosexuality, never mind making people take oaths about who they have sex with? That's just ???? stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 A private school should ban Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyzer Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Who cares. TWU is garbage anyway. The dumbest kids from my high school get in there like its nothing so they can make more $$$, yet they think they're christian without all the greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thou shall not kill - similar to our murder laws... Though I don't agree with TWU stance, I don't think they are "promoting" it as you say - they just have it - which, as others have said, is a violation of human rights... So yes, I agree, it is an issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 You missed the point. Secular laws of general application apply across the board to society - religious laws do not. A law malum in se (such as murder, rape, and theft) is accepted as wrong in itself and just because there may be an overlap from your book of stories is not the issue. These crimes developed in the English common law setting and became common law crimes. Our Criminal Code put such crimes into statutory form and also included any number of offences described as malum prohibitum i.e. conduct that constitutes an unlawful act only by virtue of a statute. The 1953 consolidation of criminal law abolished all common law offences, except Contempt of Court under our Criminal Code. Others say it is a violation??? It IS a violation but in a private setting religious freedom may prevail. However as we saw it does not prevail in a public setting and TWU is proposing to teach a law school curriculum on secular law that violates the Charter. Thou shalt not kill? Given all the killing in the name of Christianity throughout the centuries that seems a little ironical, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Didn't say everyone followed the law - just like secular laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The point of secular laws is that society by way of the Crown prosecutes violations and imposes sanctions including penal sanctions. It is a public matter binding upon all persons within the relevant jurisdiction. Religious laws are quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Yes...yes...I get it. Secular law says it's against the law to murder...and religious law says it's against the law to murder but the crown only prosecutes based on secular law but God will judge me based on religious law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 You are assuming that there is in fact a God who would visit consequences upon a transgressor. I need not make such an assumption in respect of the enforcing authority for secular law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 You mean the laws in the Bible that include putting to death anyone who sleeps with a same sex partner or eats shellfish? .. those laws? .. scary .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 True...but there are many countries in the world and not all secular laws are the same...but the laws in the Bible are the same no matter where you are. Also...as far as secular law goes - all that matters is what can be "proven" - not what may have really happened. As far as consequences, it's not really cut and dry is it as far as secular law. I mean, if you kill someone, it's not 25 years, it's a negotiation...based on circumstances and other things...maybe you get 10 years with parole in 5...maybe you get death row (again, depends on what country you live in)...maybe they say you were "insane" at the time so you get off Scot free. Maybe there was a mistake done by the police and the crown can't convict you at all. Edit: Though the laws in the Bible are also open to interpretation - just like the punishment is for secular . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 This is definitely going to turn into another religious debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 This is definitely going to turn into another religious debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 religion should have nothing to do with law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
literaphile Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The bottom line here is that some of TWU's policies go against the curriculum that they'd have to teach, notably the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They'd be reading - and, presumably, following - cases in which discriminatory practices like theirs have been struck down as unconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Any place promoting prejudice has no business opening a law school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Baylor Law School is ranked 51 in the US. I have had friends graduate from their program. If you look at the US rankings, there are plenty of private Christian universities in the top schools like BYU, BC, Notre Dame, and Southern Methodist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The bottom line here is that some of TWU's policies go against the curriculum that they'd have to teach, notably the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They'd be reading - and, presumably, following - cases in which discriminatory practices like theirs have been struck down as unconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It is same argument some make about TWU's teacher training program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 You obviously have no clue as to how law school works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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