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#2791 Lonny_Bohonos_14

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:24 AM

OK :towel:

Is it too much to ask for Tarasenko if we chip in Raymond...


But seriously; I don't see why St Louis would not be re-signing Halak or Elliot before they gave up assets for a signed guy. They can also play them till their contracts expire, and acquire someone like Bryzgalov for a similar cap hit. Completely irrelevant, everyone thought he was funnier than Lou until just recently!

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All that said Berglund is otherwise fair value for Lou; but it's all pretty far fetched?

Fun conversation though!


This. Plus they have Allen in the system as well.

That said.. If we could swing a deal around Schwartz/Berglund and maybe Rattie + Elliot it would be sweet :frantic:
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:47 AM

Yes. Take Luongo out of the equation, lose Schneider's competitiveness; lose an edge.

Conversely, lose Schneider, it won't make a dent in Luongo's play.


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If you put that kind of effort into your proposals...
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 10:22 AM

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Yes. Take Luongo out of the equation, lose Schneider's competitiveness; lose an edge.

Conversely, lose Schneider, it won't make a dent in Luongo's play.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

Can you actually stop?


Can you?
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:08 PM

Settle down kids
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:11 PM

Settle down kids


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

- Lyle Richardson, THN's Rumour Roundup


Halak and Stewart for Luongo.

Melanson can get back to fixing whatever has gone wrong for Jaro since he left Montreal (in fact there was an article that said Halak approached Melanson for help when STL was here last year).

OK :towel:

Is it too much to ask for Tarasenko if we chip in Raymond...


But seriously; I don't see why St Louis would not be re-signing Halak or Elliot before they gave up assets for a signed guy. They can also play them till their contracts expire, and acquire someone like Bryzgalov for a similar cap hit. Completely irrelevant, everyone thought Bryzzy was funnier than Lou until just recently!

:wacko:

All that said Berglund is otherwise fair value for Lou; but it's all pretty far fetched?

Fun conversation though!

Hitchcock had him as the starter and then Halak pulled the plug in the pregame skate. Reports started coming out that he just didn't want to play. There could be a fractious relationship there...
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

Halak and Stewart for Luongo.

Melanson can get back to fixing whatever has gone wrong for Jaro since he left Montreal (in fact there was an article that said Halak approached Melanson for help when STL was here last year).


Hitchcock had him as the starter and then Halak pulled the plug in the pregame skate. Reports started coming out that he just didn't want to play. There could be a fractious relationship there...

I hadn't heard about Halak approaching Melanson, but all the reports I heard about Halak late last week were he was pushing to get back to playing and really wanted to start. The only thing that held him back was tweaking his groin again a little in warm up so he couldn't start.

St. Louis Blues: Jaroslav Halak re-injures groin in warmups

Blues goalie Jaroslav Halak was scheduled to return to the net, which meant the struggling Brian Elliott would return to the bench.

Unfortunately, it was Elliott who got the start on Monday and not Halak. Halak reinjured his groin during warmups and was unable to make the start between the pipes.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:03 PM

If Philadelphia really wanted to get rid of Bryzgalov, this would be the time. If the reports out there are true, Bryzgalov would be a great fit in St.Louis. He would fit there system perfectly and I'm sure Philadelphia could get a decent return for him.
That would open the doors to Luongo going to Philadephia. I think a 3 way trade is the way this Luongo trade will go down. Not neccesarily the the teams I'm mentioning now but something along those lines.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:18 PM

If Philadelphia really wanted to get rid of Bryzgalov, this would be the time. If the reports out there are true, Bryzgalov would be a great fit in St.Louis. He would fit there system perfectly and I'm sure Philadelphia could get a decent return for him.
That would open the doors to Luongo going to Philadephia. I think a 3 way trade is the way this Luongo trade will go down. Not neccesarily the the teams I'm mentioning now but something along those lines.

Bryzgalov's contract is the problem. What a team will get in his goal tending will not match what they pay this guy. That's Philly wants to get rid of him.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

Can you?


Troll you should stop, if you dont want to be banned. js
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:22 PM

Bryzgalov's contract is the problem. What a team will get in his goal tending will not match what they pay this guy. That's Philly wants to get rid of him.


Do you see how good Smith is doing in Phoenix? In my opinion it has to do with the system. Bryzgalov looked like a superstar there and now Smith looks like a superstar. I don't think Bryzgalov is a bad goalie, I just think the Flyers don't have a good system.
Could you imagine Bryzgalov playing under Hitchcocks's system? That would be a scary thing.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

Can you?

not getting much support are you from this gang...pity !!
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:38 PM

I wish they were both in Columbus... <_<

Do you see how good Smith is doing in Phoenix? In my opinion it has to do with the system. Bryzgalov looked like a superstar there and now Smith looks like a superstar. I don't think Bryzgalov is a bad goalie, I just think the Flyers don't have a good system.
Could you imagine Bryzgalov playing under Hitchcocks's system? That would be a scary thing.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:40 PM

Do you see how good Smith is doing in Phoenix? In my opinion it has to do with the system. Bryzgalov looked like a superstar there and now Smith looks like a superstar. I don't think Bryzgalov is a bad goalie, I just think the Flyers don't have a good system.
Could you imagine Bryzgalov playing under Hitchcocks's system? That would be a scary thing.


I don't know...it wouldn't scare me all that much. Seeing as Halak already has a better lifetime save% than Breezy, (and better GAA as well) I'd be less scared than I am now.

What would be really scary is replacing the #8 all-time ave% (Halak) with the guy who has the #5 all-time save%. (Actually, tied with Henrik Lundqvist for 4th) Some guy named Luongo...
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:42 PM

I'd love to see Bryzgalov playing uner Hitchcock - that would be great if St. Louis downgraded and took him out of Philly - can't imagine it happening, but would love to see it.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:56 PM

If not Brouwer, then who? I don't see what's wrong with him. He's big. He plays a very physical style which will help Schroeder. He skates well. He's fairly solid on defense and has offensive upside. He does have a larger cap hit than either Raymond or Higgins, but with the cap leaving the team in my proposal he could be fit in rather nicely.

Granted, with the Malhotra situation being as it now is, it has re-focused attention on the center position.

And Hamrlik is a cap/salary/contract dump. I believe Washington would want a bit of relief in return for the amount they are taking on. He would be gone at the end of the season when his contract was done.


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Brouwer is legit.

Add a couple of big tough bodies and watch the rest of the teams swag. This team will play at another level.

Edited by iluvbc, 15 February 2013 - 05:05 PM.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

This fractious relationship; is it a true goalie controversy?

Does he dislike Hitchcock? I'm told he wears on players over a period, genius and winner or not.

Was he pushing for a new contract this off season and was knocked back? There could be something there I suppose? St Lou according to the Forbes report is the lowest revenue team in the league AND losing money. I doubt their new president would have been rewarding Halak with a Bryzgalov contract upon arrival. Hey, their tandem is signed this year and next (for less than Lou's real dollar pay) with what their market called the best tandem in the league.... I wouldn't overpay Halak either because he can fall back on last years save %leader in the league.

His first mandate HAS to be returning to the black. Not overpaying.

I'm not claiming to be a genius, but if St Lou were to part ways with Halak who has solid trade value, I'm guessing they want something to push them over the top (don't forget they have a pretty good team!) not an even more expensive goalie controversy...

But if they're seriously willing to dismantle their team by tossing us Patrick Berglund for Lou straight up (the post I was responding to), handing us exactly what we need, take on a 3rd goalie and an $6.7 mill per year payout while losing millions to solve (?) their conundrum I'm all for it...

Maybe there is a 3 way deal to be landed somehow, but i just don't see this one.

Halak and Stewart for Luongo.

Melanson can get back to fixing whatever has gone wrong for Jaro since he left Montreal (in fact there was an article that said Halak approached Melanson for help when STL was here last year).


Hitchcock had him as the starter and then Halak pulled the plug in the pregame skate. Reports started coming out that he just didn't want to play. There could be a fractious relationship there...


Edited by Canuck Surfer, 15 February 2013 - 05:05 PM.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:17 PM

Sorry, I should have commented on this; not just a rebuttle more based on a different trade posted by someone else. My apologies.

Is there any reason to think we would get Stewart in 2009/10 from? He scored a ton, and is the 220 lb body we crave for our right side. Him and Kassian sound very menacing...

But Stewart has not thrived at all under Hitchcock, who's system and expectation is similar to AV's. The counter: we would get a great return re-trading Halak in summer after being offered insurance for a run and toying with Stewart is intriguing. Intriguing, but like with Kassian last year (who was out of form then) will that get us a cup this year? I'm saying that trade is not going down, but its interesting.

Halak and Stewart for Luongo.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:34 PM

Do you see how good Smith is doing in Phoenix? In my opinion it has to do with the system. Bryzgalov looked like a superstar there and now Smith looks like a superstar. I don't think Bryzgalov is a bad goalie, I just think the Flyers don't have a good system.
Could you imagine Bryzgalov playing under Hitchcocks's system? That would be a scary thing.


Agree about the system 100%. Also big teams improve goalie numbers.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:50 PM

Only was St.Lois gets Luongo is with a massive overpayment.

Otherwise no way MG gives them a pice that would help beat Canucks in the plaqyoffs.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 06:47 PM

Only was St.Lois gets Luongo is with a massive overpayment.

Otherwise no way MG gives them a pice that would help beat Canucks in the plaqyoffs.

Pietrangelo :emot-parrot:

I'm just playin. I'd do Oshie+ and Elliot for Luongo
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:08 PM

Schneider
Raymond


Brouwer
Nuervith
Orlov


Just stop. This is bad. I wouldn't do it for Luongo.

- Lyle Richardson, THN's Rumour Roundup


Hmmm.. Makes no sense to me.

But if St.Louis is even a remote possibility (Which I don't see at all)

I would also be interested in Berglund. I would also be interested in Sobotka.

Again I don't see it though.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:13 PM

If this is legit:

VAN
Berglund
Sobotka
Jaskin
Elliot

STL
Luongo
Higgins
Connaution
3rd
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:18 PM

If this is legit:

VAN
Berglund
Sobotka
Jaskin
Elliot

STL
Luongo
Higgins
Connaution
3rd


Elliot went to my high school and Berglund is a man possessed so I would do it. St. Louis would never do it though since Halak is younger and cheaper, and where would Berglund fit with a healthy Kesler? He's a 2nd line center.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:22 PM

Elliot went to my high school and Berglund is a man possessed so I would do it. St. Louis would never do it though since Halak is younger and cheaper, and where would Berglund fit with a healthy Kesler? He's a 2nd line center.


Not 100% sure but I would think Berglund might work on the wing. Just my hope. He is big and a playmaker, would work wonders with Kes and Booth.

And speaking of Elliot he could be the back-up we are looking for once a trade is made.

Last year was a fluke, he is still an average goalie, he is a serviceable backup and with Allen waiting in the wings for the Blues Elliot would be expendable.

Should look at picking him up if we trade a goaltender to someone else.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

I hadn't heard about Halak approaching Melanson, but all the reports I heard about Halak late last week were he was pushing to get back to playing and really wanted to start. The only thing that held him back was tweaking his groin again a little in warm up so he couldn't start.

St. Louis Blues: Jaroslav Halak re-injures groin in warmups


The rumour was that he just simply didn't want to start that game. I can't remember where I heard/read it. Believe it or not, makes no difference to me.
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Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:33 PM

To St.Louis:

Luongo
Higgins
Connaughton

To Van:

Stewart
Rattie

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Hitchcock would love Higgins' defensive play and a reliable forward. We get an inconsistent powerforward but with alot of upside and add more toughness to the lineup.

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Kassian
Raymond - Schroeder - Hansen
Weise - Lappiere - Stewart
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

To St.Louis:

Luongo
Higgins
Connaughton

To Van:

Stewart
Rattie


We overpay, especially to only have Stewart on the 4th line.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:42 PM

We overpay, especially to only have Stewart on the 4th line.


He will not stay there permanently, he or Kassian can switch up and down the lineup.

But thats Stanley Cup winning depth right there, you can never have enough talent on your team.
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