thad Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 to van - todd bertuzzi to det - keith ballard do you think they would do it with their decimated blue line? I love ballard but we have to get rid of him next year to get under the cap, why not trade him for some secondary scoring and increase our grit and toughness in the top six even more. Bert puts up several multi goal games a year so theres one more guy that can come up big if the sedins get shut down in the playoffs. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I actually see no reason for us to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex the Great Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Bertuzzi coming back would cause way too much mayhem. No reason for us to make this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Ballard for Tomas Jurco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Ballard for Tomas Jurco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 ballard for tatar or detroits 1st? Ballard is an imporvement over, Ian White, Colaiacovo, Huskins, lashoff maybe quincey. THey have some younger blueliners like kidl and smith, but I think Ballard could easily fit in their top 4 paired with Ericsson or Kronwall detroit drafts well and they seem to have some young forwards on the time and a few in the minors that dont have much of a chance to crack the line up like tatar. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Wilson Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Would we be comfortable with Barker or Alberts playing every night? EDIT: that is to say, yes, Ballard is over-payed for his role. But we would be worse off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 yes i think so, We have invested millions in our top 4. Time for them to play top minutes. Playing tanev with barker/alberts/vandermeer for 8-14min a night isnt an issue to me We have good 2 way forwards who help backcheck aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burlinbert Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would love it if Bert came back BUT to much drama i think the steve moore case is still going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 i think the past is the past. bert is producing just fine now a days and i think he would be a huge addition to our secondary scoring. He's not just a chris higgins type guy that will chip in here and there. He's a more dominant player that has the ability to come up with several multi goal games a season and take charge of games when our top guys get shut down. i think he would be a great veteran add for a cup run and we can manage playing alberts, barker or vandermeer. taking out ballard and ebbett and inserting bertuzzi and vandermeer makes us one of the toughest teams in the league to play against. that seems to be winning cups these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Kassian would have his idol in the same locker room as him. Wonder if that would do anything for his production and game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Bertuzzi could mentor and shape Kassian. However, this leaves a void in our defense that would need to filled via a free agent (who's available?) or a separate trade. Maybe if a signing or trade happened that left Ballard extendable could this trade happen, but it still doesn't seem likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Bertuzzi could mentor and shape Kassian. However, this leaves a void in our defense that would need to filled via a free agent (who's available?) or a separate trade. Maybe if a signing or trade happened that left Ballard extendable could this trade happen, but it still doesn't seem likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't see it as big of a void as you. Our defense has been fine the last couple years playing Ballard as a depth guy. I like the idea of having vandermeer and Alberts being a big physical presence on the 3rd pairing. Furthermore, we are going to have to buy out Ballard next year. This move saves ownership 3mill or so and addresses our biggest concern every year in the playoffs, secondary scoring. I think it's a good hockey trade for both teams and we have more than enough depth to cover KB, especially when you consider the youngsters waiting in the wings. Thing that makes it hard for me is how well Ballard is playing right now. I'm willing to sacrifice an area of strength to boost an area of need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 I get what your saying about it being hard to trade ballard now since hes been one.of.our.most poised defenceman so far this season, but would you rather trade him now while he has a little value or lose him for nothing in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salo'sBomb Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 While I agree he'd be a great mentor for Kassian as Bert was his fav player growing up, I think the media would screw with his head about the Moore hit and I think he just wants to move on from it. I personally couldn't see him coming to Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Create a huge hole to add unnecessary depth? I don't see how this improves us, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James van Riemsdyk Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think Betuzzi would benefit us by having veteran leadership on the team as well as coaching Kassian, although this seems great. We would be dropping off Ballard who has been great with Tanev and is by far our best defensive pairing right now. I can see Ballard and Tanev putting up at least 15 points each this season if they continue to play this way. A reason why it would be bad to have bertuzzi is because we got rid of him because of his Moore fiasco, if he came back it would cause people to hate the Canucks more and have people hating on him for what he did to the poor guy. Secondly I'm scared how our defense will do without Ballard, yes he's our bottom six pairing but our depth behind him is Vandermeer and Barker and I don't think they'll do very well with Tanev as they have no chemistry, then after this year they'll be gone and Tanev will have to find a new defensive partner. I think the best thing is to hold onto Ballard for now and trade him if we can't hold onto him next season due to salary cap issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 We don't really need Bertuzzi. Besides, if Bertuzzi fails to play well, the cost of getting rid of him will be high, since he is an old player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Create a huge hole to add unnecessary depth? I don't see how this improves us, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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