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#1 Lui's Knob

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

Canucks while having some good play of late still have holes to fill.... What do they need before the deadline? ( I don't think luongo will be dealt until the offseason )

Someone to replace manny
Pp specialist not named Edler
Winger for Kesler


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:14 PM

If Booth plays to his potential and our power play picks it up again I don't think we'll have many holes that need filling to be honest.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:21 PM

Booth + Bieksa for Myers or Bogosian or a big tough d-man yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:25 PM

I don't think we have any holes to fill. All roles are filled, esp. when Booth returns. When playoffs come our team's PP and PK will be much better and our guys will be rollin'. Go with what we got this year.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

I don't think we have any holes to fill. All roles are filled, esp. when Booth returns. When playoffs come our team's PP and PK will be much better and our guys will be rollin'. Go with what we got this year.


Edit: and the reason why I think this is because when Booth returns our team IMO is better than the one that took us to game 7.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:27 PM

If Schroeder continues to improve, I think we're set.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:32 PM

Canucks while having some good play of late still have holes to fill.... What do they need before the deadline? ( I don't think luongo will be dealt until the offseason )

Someone to replace manny
Pp specialist not named Edler
Winger for Kesler


I think Lapierre can fill the 4th line role perfectly well. The emergence of Schroeder, and his impressive 2-way game, is a big relief in this department. If Schroeder can keep it up, I think we're in the clear. As for depth, there's still Ebbett (bleh), and Higgins can play center. Burrows, too, if we get desperate. Thou I'd sooner start double-shifting players before it goes that far.

A PP specialist is in order, and that goes hand in hand with the fact that we still have no true #1 d-man. Edler is far to inconsistent to be relied upon in that role, and Garrison is not going to get there this season.

A right-side D-man is a necessity, as has become glaringly obvious.

If Booth, Kesler, and Kassian can find some chemistry, I have plenty of faith in the second line. They are players who are above and beyond capable of it.

With a 3rd line like ours, that is as good as it is 2-way, I think our secondary scoring and checking are in good hands. This is merely amplified by the depth that is apparent with having Higgins and Lapierre on the 4th line, along side whichever slugger we feel like using at the time; Volpatti or Wiese.

And our goaltending is obviously fine.

The only hole I see with this team is the defense. I think this season is too short to iron that out. I really want to see a true number 1, right-side D-man come our way but I don't see that happening at the deadline.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

Doughty, Keith, Weber, Chara type Dman.

Oh wait... that's not going to happen.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:46 PM

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We don't have holes, we have a work ethic / execution problem. And we're not alone either. Out of the thirty teams in the NHL, at least half could easily win the cup with some hard work and a little luck. The personnel on the ice matters so much less than the effort that is put in. If everyone plays the system, if everyone makes smart plays, if everyone plays on both ends of the ice then the team will win.

We didn't lose to Boston because they had better players, we didn't lose to LA for that reason either. We lost because their players played harder.

I firmly believe that relying on some miracle trade to fill some non-existent hole is a fantasy. We have what we need, everyone just needs to learn their role and execute it. If we stay reasonably healthy and one of our goalies plays reasonably well then we should win the cup. If we don't it won't be because we didn't fill a hole, it'll be because we were out worked by the other team(s).
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:56 PM

We don't have holes, we have a work ethic / execution problem. And we're not alone either. Out of the thirty teams in the NHL, at least half could easily win the cup with some hard work and a little luck. The personnel on the ice matters so much less than the effort that is put in. If everyone plays the system, if everyone makes smart plays, if everyone plays on both ends of the ice then the team will win.

We didn't lose to Boston because they had better players, we didn't lose to LA for that reason either. We lost because their players played harder.

I firmly believe that relying on some miracle trade to fill some non-existent hole is a fantasy. We have what we need, everyone just needs to learn their role and execute it. If we stay reasonably healthy and one of our goalies plays reasonably well then we should win the cup. If we don't it won't be because we didn't fill a hole, it'll be because we were out worked by the other team(s).


80% true, but that D-core honestly needs a bit of leadership. It looks to me like because all of our D-men (except Tanev) are around the same level, there is no leader. There needs to be a sort of captain among them. As it is right now, they all are on the same level of the proverbial totem pole, and no one can call them out when they play bad.

There is also the obvious issue with our right-side on D. Edler is not going to execute this, to use your words. But we can't exactly go out and get one unless we lose a lefty... Hamhuis is staying, Garrison was just signed, Edler is our most skilled (but least consistent...), and Ballard is playing the best, and has been a good play-off guy overall. There really is no odd man out, and so we're left with what we have.

We may have to trade Edler or Garrison in the offseason for a Right side of equal caliber. At the moment, Ballard is a complete wild card. If he carries on, he wont be bought out. But will he stay, or will he be traded? Only time will tell.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:00 PM

I think we got a solid squad, as long they stay healthy
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:10 PM

We don't have holes, we have a work ethic / execution problem. And we're not alone either. Out of the thirty teams in the NHL, at least half could easily win the cup with some hard work and a little luck. The personnel on the ice matters so much less than the effort that is put in. If everyone plays the system, if everyone makes smart plays, if everyone plays on both ends of the ice then the team will win.

We didn't lose to Boston because they had better players, we didn't lose to LA for that reason either. We lost because their players played harder.

I firmly believe that relying on some miracle trade to fill some non-existent hole is a fantasy. We have what we need, everyone just needs to learn their role and execute it. If we stay reasonably healthy and one of our goalies plays reasonably well then we should win the cup. If we don't it won't be because we didn't fill a hole, it'll be because we were out worked by the other team(s).


I agree that the team's effort and execution are more of a concern than the roster. for 3 years now, this team (on paper) has stacked up against the best teams in the league an dhas had arguably the best goaltending in the league. They've received all kinds of individual awards but a a team, have not really delivered at the level their personnel would seem to dictate.

Who knows if the apparent lack of a killer instinct is because the guys are too nice, coached that way or it's just a product of the players running the dressing room.

I think they have all the necessary pieces and depth to dominate IF they work as hard as their competition and stay healthy. WIth the Nucks, it's more about the mental aspect of the game than the physical one.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:15 PM

I hope Schroeder is safe, after what happened with Hodgson last year who knows, lol this is just a joke. I think the canucks can use a third line winger so when booth returns we could have a fourth line of lapierre higgins and that winger we aquire, and this can allow us to roll consistent 4 lines per game in the playoffs.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:16 PM

We have all of the players we need, we just need to stay healthy and somehow jumpstart our powerplay.

And if we stop playing the "sit back and protect a lead" hockey that would probably help too.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

80% true, but that D-core honestly needs a bit of leadership. It looks to me like because all of our D-men (except Tanev) are around the same level, there is no leader. There needs to be a sort of captain among them. As it is right now, they all are on the same level of the proverbial totem pole, and no one can call them out when they play bad.

There is also the obvious issue with our right-side on D. Edler is not going to execute this, to use your words. But we can't exactly go out and get one unless we lose a lefty... Hamhuis is staying, Garrison was just signed, Edler is our most skilled (but least consistent...), and Ballard is playing the best, and has been a good play-off guy overall. There really is no odd man out, and so we're left with what we have.

We may have to trade Edler or Garrison in the offseason for a Right side of equal caliber. At the moment, Ballard is a complete wild card. If he carries on, he wont be bought out. But will he stay, or will he be traded? Only time will tell.

At least Ballard is tradeable now. Evan his contract doesn't look that bad. Still prefer to see the 3rd pairing play 18 minutes a night.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:23 PM

Forwards are stacked.

The only place i can see that could use some help would be on the blueline. A quality d man would put this team over the top.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

3rd line center and a 2 way right shot defensemen
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

If Booth plays to his potential and our power play picks it up again I don't think we'll have many holes that need filling to be honest.

so the canucks will win the cup then right... no holes to fill you say...
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:44 PM

i think we are fine if we had to do some trading it would be size a bigger burr,sedins,maray,shroeder but wont happen i really do think we are good enough to win the cup IF we can stay healthy. very happy n excited of our team once it bk to normal n in tip top performance
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:52 PM

1) Goaltending

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:01 PM

hard hitting 3rd line player! (steve ott)
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

I think we could use someone to replace Manny; someone who is left-handed and can win faceoffs. Otherwise Henrik becomes our only left-side option.

A right-handed depth defenseman would be nice to have around as well.

Maybe more grit? If management decides they want a bigger 3rd line center for the playoff than Schroeder, they could go that route.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

right now i dunno , have to wait almost until the deadline before you can really pinpoint the canucks problems

we got a pretty good group that can kill penaltys but yeah , another guy with a manny malholtra resume would be cool , thats hard to come by but hey , so its an allstar goalie :bigblush:

aslong as the defense tightens up and players up and down the line up keep scoring we should be pretty good , gillis will pull something off tho , he always does

Edited by cIutch, 17 February 2013 - 03:08 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:09 PM

We could use...

2-Way Centre for depth
Right Handed Depth Defence man

A player like Jay McClement or Vladmir Sobotka (not specifically them) as a depth 2-way centre.

A player like Kevin Klein (not specifically him) as a depth right handed defence man.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:14 PM

Matt Dagostini!!! He has a great relationship with Lapierre and he is very fast and physical against the boards

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:21 PM

I'm thinkin' we definitely need a goal tender. Lu's proven he's no good in the playoffs and Schnieds has let in a few Mcschofties so far this season. Maybe trade Kesler and Booth for a tender like Carey Price?

We'd have the best 1a, 1b, 1c, goal tending trifecta in the league. Each goalie can play a third of the season to ensure they stay fresh for the playoff's.


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:26 PM

The team is not perfect, but it doesn't have holes. There are some spots that could be improved upon, but nothing is altogether missing.

First, the second line needs time to gel upon Booth's return. If they play to their potential, the top-9 is set. Otherwise, secondary scoring would be an issue, and a top-6 playmaker would be a nice acquisition.

A replacement for Manny would be nice, but that is a very specific need which may not be possible to address. It would be a defensively responsible, left-handed face-off specialist who can thrive with a regular shift in a bottom-6 role.

The defense is a little goofy with only two natural right-side defensemen on the roster. But each defenseman is valuable, and addressing the need for another right-handed defensemen would likely mean displacing one of the left-handed defensemen, which would only make sense as part of a big trade, which I don't see happening. Perhaps a right-handed depth defenseman would be nice, provided he is an upgrade on Alberts et al.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:33 PM

I would love it if we got Torres again

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

What pieces this team needs at the deadline will come down to the performance of David Booth and Jordan Schroeder. If Booth scores at a healthy pace and Schroeder continues to show he can be counted on as the 3rd line centre, I honestly don't think the team needs anything. If those two don't perform up to snuff between now and the deadline, then I'd say we need a top 6 winger and a big, two way 3rd line centre.

Goaltending is obviously fine and the defense, I think, is as good as it's ever going to be. Nothing needed on the back end.

Edited by NuxFan09, 17 February 2013 - 03:52 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:55 PM

I'll revise my post: I actually think the team could use a two way bottom 6 centre with size, regardless of Schroeder's performance. I have a feeling when the intensity notches up in the playoffs Schroeder might be converted to wing. Who knows?, maybe he becomes a fast scoring winger for the Kesler line.
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