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#1 SkeeterHansen

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:00 AM

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Vicious knee from Taylor Hall tonight. Clutterbuck was clearly in a whole lot of pain. After Hansen got a suspension for the "love tap", and the league decided not to take action after Olver's headshot on Tarasenko (clean hit, but incidental contact to the head DID take place), any thoughts on what Hall may or may not get for this? Will the NHL "protect their stars", as we've seen, or will Hall be subject to "The Shanaban"?


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:05 AM

defiantly knee on knee, however it also looks like Hall is going in for a check via hip.

that being said:
1. reckless play by Hall.
2. point of contact is knee
3. injury on the play

i say he gets 5 games
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:06 AM

Small suspension. NHL only gives a damn about headshots. Should be a big one though. Can end someone's career pulling garbage like this.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:08 AM

Small suspension. NHL only gives a damn about headshots. Should be a big one though. Can end someone's career pulling garbage like this.


I'd say a knee is just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, to a players career than a headshot. Might be me talking out of my arse, but that's merely my opinion.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:08 AM

He was getting rattled in the post game interviews.

Dirty. Cheap. Gutless. Reckless.

Hope Shanaban suspends someone who Actually commits an offence this time.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:09 AM

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I thought it was ugly. At the very least interference and I think blindside could be argued. Clutterbuck did turn last minute and at that high speed I don't know if Hall could've let up but he sure seemed committed either way.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:09 AM

I'd say a knee is just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, to a players career than a headshot. Might be me talking out of my arse, but that's merely my opinion.


Oh, i totally agree. I think they are both brutal. I just think the nhl only cares about its image when it comes to headshots/concussions.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:09 AM

defiantly knee on knee, however it also looks like Hall is going in for a check via hip.

that being said:
1. reckless play by Hall.
2. point of contact is knee
3. injury on the play

i say he gets 5 games


I was going to say, if the league were to be consistent with their rulings, this would be a 4-5 game suspension.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:10 AM

I don't know if it was intentional by Hall but WOW!

Did that ever look painful! TSN is saying Clutterbuck can't put any weight on his left leg...

I also agree with the Coach of Minnesota who wondered what would happen if the 2 players reversed roles....
Hall shouldn't receive special treatment just because he is a bigger name in hockey.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:11 AM

It's tough to say as I am not familiar with the rules on low hits. I would say that it is similar to the Marchand hit on Salo so I would assume that a 5 game suspension would do. It was clearly intentful, Clutterbuck was unsuspecting, but it may be considered a hockey play as it wasn't a hit to the head.

My person opinion is that it was a terrible hit and that 5 games should be about right. However, it makes me sick that nobody on the Wild went after Hall. If I was on the ice I would have went right after Hall to show him and the rest of the league that if you do something to injure a player there should be consequences on the ice as well as a suspension. I hope that the next time they meet, Rupp or Konopka go right after Hall as his hit has no place in the game.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:19 AM

I'd say a knee is just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, to a players career than a headshot. Might be me talking out of my arse, but that's merely my opinion.


As someone who just had knee surgery, I support this statement.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:22 AM

Not nearly as bad as Bieksa's knee on knee. Bieksa should get 3-5 games. Hall's was more of a hip on knee and should get 0-2 games.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:24 AM

He sounded like a huge douchebag in his post game interview. Lost respect for him even.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:26 AM

Taylor Hall is reckless in general. He's usually cutting through open ice with his head down, or throwing a body check with his head or watching the puck as he makes a pass. This time he hurt someone else.

Don't you find it odd that within an hour of the Hansen/Hossa incident, we heard the league requested a hearing. I can't remember the last time a hearing had been decided and requested so quickly. I mean, Giordano was playing hockey 24 hrs later when he heard he was getting hearing. Yet in this case, it's been a few hours and we've heard nothing? NHLs discipline sucks. Plain and simple.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:28 AM

looked like a missed hip check. Not really "dirty".
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:33 AM

Looked like a late hit but it was a hip check. Bad call on the ice. Nothing further but ya never know eh?
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:36 AM

Hall's infraction, IMO, was not kneeing, it was interference... hip to femur away from the puck and very late. It was also a dirty, gutless, blatant attempt to injure another player. He deserves 3 games, minimum.

Klutterbuck is not a "star" player. Hall is a "star" player. I hope Shanahan looks at the action, and not who committed it, when considering supplementary discipline. If Klutterbuck hit Hall, what might the verdict be?

Edit: KB3's knee tonight was worse, IMO. I don't like it when my favorite Canuck does sh!t like this. Play hard, Bieksa, not dirty.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:40 AM

This isn't much different than the hip checks we see from our boys occasionally. Difference is that Clutterbuck had his knee taken out instead, which of course wasn't done intentionally.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:40 AM

looked like a missed hip check. Not really "dirty".


Oilers are out of the game late in the 3rd... Hall is frustrated because his team continues to suck most nights... puck is nowhere near KC... Hall hits KC (with a late hip check) who is following the puck and is defenceless...

Not really "dirty"? Really?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:42 AM

Yea definitely was a hip check but Hall totally missed it and got the knee instead, unfortunate. He will probably get a suspension for this but don't expect many games. Was also a late hit for sure as the puck was out of Clutterbuck's site. League takes everything into consideration and since Hall has a clear record, his suspension won't be as severe as someone's who has a record of dirty plays. I'd say 2-3 game suspension.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:59 AM

Watch Hall's knee area on impact, definitely looks like that's where it hits, but the angle is so awkward that it's like a knee-hip hybrid!

lol @ Hall's post game comments about it being bad "seeing a guy sitting on the ice like that" or whatever, lol
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:17 AM

Hall is a punk, really one of my least favourite players around. I would love to seem go one on one with Clutterbuck and properly learn a lesson.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

Reckless, late, dirty. Hall is looking at him the WHOLE time, I mean sure the puck goes into his skates but he clearly had no intention of playing it

I don't like Clutterbuck but you NEVER want that kind of hit on anyone. Yes ANYONE.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:29 AM

I can see how the refs called it a "knee on knee" hit in real time. When I first saw it, I thought the same thing. After I've had a chance to look at it more, it looks more like knee-femur hit. Doesn't look like Hall tried to "knee" but more just hit Clutter late. I have a feeling he'll get a game or two, but it'll be more of a "Hall... don't become Pronger" warning.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:29 AM

good god guys, the puck was right on his skate 1/4 of a second prior and it appear he was kicking it to his stick. if that's what hall thought, then the body position of Clutterbuck would have been hip to hip with Hall. Instead the puck didn't come into his control and he remained with his hips square to Hall. Watch it again, this is pretty clear.

My assessment is that Hall assumed Clusterphu was taking possetion of the puck.

"you can't argue the puck was anywhere near him on that play" says the moron calling the game.

To say the puck was nowhere near is LUDICROUS. It touched him less than 1/2 a second prior and it appeared he might take possession.

Bunch of kittens around here.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:36 AM

You could argue that the hit could be interference, as Clutterbuck didn't have the puck when he hit him, however Clutterbuck WAS attempting to play the puck with his feet a when Hall committed to the hit.

It's sad that Clutterbuck is hurt, but he's got to keep his head up, if the puck is in his vicinity and he attempts to play it (even with his feet) he's fair game for physical contact.

-Hall was coasting, not skating hard, so there's no charging

-Despite the call on the ice, Hall did not hang out a leg, that was a hipcheck.

-It's unfortunate that injury occurred on the play, but I would say the primary cause of injury would be that Clutterbuck had his head down watching the puck - unlike a blindside hit, where a player hits another player from behind - Clutterbuck would have easily seen Hall if he had kept his head up and could have braced himself for the hit.

I know it's an Oiler player that has done this, but if I set aside my bias, I would say the hit is clean. The result is terrible, but open ice hits happen, players always have to be aware who is on the ice.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:11 AM

BS to the heads-up argument. With the speed + positioning + last minute twist of Hall's hip, that's an injury regardless.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:29 AM

It look to me Hall hipchecked Clutterbuck on the knee. I dont think there will be a suspension
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:46 AM

league after reviewing the play ..... no penalty or suspension needed clean hit haha thats probably what will happen

jannick hansen being suspended was ridiculous and it shows how much of a joke the league is, poor lil hossa retire if u cant take a bump but guess what hes practising and will play tomorrow what a absolute joke

taylor hall hit tonight was the dirtiest hit ive seen this yr total intent to injure should automatically be five games if not ten. dont worry tho hall wont have a long career some one will take his number and return the favor one of these days. He plays like lindros head down going nto the offensive zone hes gonna get destroyed one a these days. The league needs to take out the instigator rule and let players regulate them selves. Until that day we'll have rats in the league like marchant and versteeg.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:50 AM

If whats his face got five with no history for the one on booth then hall should get around the same
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