L'Orange Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The defense has been the main issue throughout Luongo's time here. If Luongo had a true elite defenseman anchoring the blueline, the outcome against Boston would have been different. However Gillis has tried to sell the idea of defense by committee to the team. It doesn't work at all. The defense allowed the Bruins to take over the crease and never made them pay for it. Yes there were injuries and the officiating was crap, but in the end it was the failing of the defense to keep the crease clear, and the failing of the forwards to find different ways to score, and lastly the failing of Vigneault to make any or all of this happen The defense has some bright spots, mainly Hamhuis and Bieksa (when they are on) but the glaring hole is named Alex Edler. To some on this site he is the saviour that will take the Canucks deep into the post-season. I think it's pretty obvious now that he isn't a stud defenseman, moreso a dud. He has offensive production, but in his own zone he is feeble and stunned. For all the points he generates, when he does, his constant weak play in his own end shows his true worth........ as trade bait. Luongo has been a epoch here. He has allowed the Canucks to enter the realm of being a contender. The fact that so many on these boards believe he is a sieve and should be traded speaks to the singlemindedness of the fanbase here. Other teams would love to have our problems. What do we do? Complain. Cheer when Luongo is pulled last year. Fans like this are a cancer in sports. To all of those who want Luongo gone I pose a question. Where would this team be if he was never traded to Vancouver? Do you really think we would be a contender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Hmm, let's see, Tony O won a Cup and is in the HHOF (a place where Lou will forever have to pay admittance to enter), Eddie the eagle did the same and Ron Hextall has a Cup AND a Conn Smythe. Lou isn't anywhere near in their league at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmpunk Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Well Luongo is starting tomorrow, no surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37yrsncounting Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Many here in this forum still bash Luongo about his meltdowns and the fact that he doesn't have a stanley cup or mvp to his resume. Thats all good, I agree with some of that. What Im trying to point out if its not Lou, whos a better alternative available to the Canucks at the moment? Schneider isn't exactly inspiring confidence and its not a sure thing that his play will improve once we run Luongo out of town. Then what? If Schneider doesn't pan out then can we live with mediorce goaltending again? At least Luongo allows us to consistenly field a team that has a chance at the cup. We may seriously be looking at a downgrade in goal after Luongo leaves, then what are we looking for? A team that consistently has a chance at a playoff spot? Bash Luongo all you want but it almost sounds like some of you rather have Dan Cloutier in net instead of a multiple vezina finalist who played in one of the most important hockey game in our country's history as the starting goaltender and a winning one at that. Grass is always greener on the other side. Ive been a fan for a long time, we've never been able to develop a star goalie let alone a very good one. We've always had to trade for our starting goaltenders, Maclean, Cloutier, Luongo. Not saying Schneider won't become an elite goaltender in the future but when some of you point out that Luongo hasn't won anything, you have to remember Schneider hasn't either. Schnieder has been given plenty of chances the last few games to run with this team, but he's struggling. Our team is at the tail end of our so call window, so why not run with Lou and give it one last shot with this group. Quite sure Lou won't be back next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikiShiz Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 well to be honest no GOOD coach in thier right mind would allow a goalie to give up that many without giving them the hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 It's a team game Sherlock. Put luongo on those teams and he wins the same amount of cups. Don't kid your self. Luongo is an ELITE game changer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Even Tampa found a way to get through to him. Maybe if we learned by watching what Tampa did we would have been fine. Thomas wasn't a brick wall. His play style had some big weaknesses that only a few teams actually bothered figuring out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schneider Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I suspect your reading comprehension needs a but of work... or a lot... But I'm convinced your anger management skills are at an all time low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPS Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The question is, when the team is playing absolutely terrible like they are now, who is better Luongo or Schneider? I feel that Luongo sometimes have those "god mode" games and will steal a few games for us no matter how badly we play. 40 shots on goal against? No problem still a shut out b/c it's god mode "Great Saves Luongo!!!" night. Schneider is a more consistent goalie however he doesn't really have those "god mode" games. We hasn't lose 4 straight games for how many years now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossy Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Right...when Schnieder does it, you Schneider fan boys say "that was the only way he had a chance to make a save"... How many losses in a row for Schneider? His last 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ṣpiderman Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 7uongo overrated on these boards. Not even other teams will bother giving up major assets for his services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I guess Tony Espositto, Ron Hextal and Eddie Belfour (among others) were just "good" goalies. Luongo still has many years left, Hasek didn't win a cup until the end of his... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I suspect your reading comprehension needs a but of work... or a lot... But I'm convinced your anger management skills are at an all time low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Let's review their last 4 games, shall we? Schneider: L, .875 save %, bad game. OTL, .926 save %, great game OTL, .933 save %, 28 stops, great game W, .933 save %, 28 stops, great game 4 points. 7uongo: L, Bellyflopping vs Calgary, .875 save % L, Bellyflopping vs Detroit, .714 save %, lost the game. 8 GA, Ro8erto is washed up. W, Easy SO, Nashville didn't even have a good scoring change. OTL, Bellyflopping vs the Blues, .870 save % 3 points. 7ungo just bellyflops his way to losses every game, but 7uongo dick riders just love the taste of his chicken so they don't care if he loses the team every game he starts. 7ungo is WASHED UP. LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelons Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Marty and the like don't constantly have meltdowns in games, and let in 8 goals in the stanley cup finals, and do this multiple times in every playoff run. This is so simple, how can you not understand? Whether or not you want Luongo gone, you must be able to understand the reason many people do. Stop acting like it makes no sense. edit : also pretty tired of this "He took us to the SCF game 7" BS. our team was stacked as hell then. If we didn't make it really deep or win the cup, then it's a disappointment, and it was. He did the absolute furthest thing from putting the team on his back. He just managed to keep the number of meltdowns in net to a sustainable number to get us deep in the playoffs. (until the finals at least). that isn't even remotely the same as "him getting us to the stanley cup finals". almost any goalie would have "gotten us there" as well, with the team we had then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yup. A team that is "stacked as hell" could only score 8 goals in 7 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yup. A team that is "stacked as hell" could only score 8 goals in 7 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelons Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Tim Thomas deserves a lot of credit for holding us to 8 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 "Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" ............i would really miss posting that if he got traded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ṣpiderman Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 That's definitely true. But if the team was "stacked as hell" (as the poster said) we would have been able to find a way to score. All good teams find ways to score, not to mention one that is "stacked as hell" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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