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#61 aqua59

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:50 AM

so you also hate Kesler, Schneider, Ballard, Higgins, Schroeder and Alberts too?

don't get me wrong, as an atheist and animal rights supporter i hate him with a passion but what's nationality got to do with it?

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What does being an American have to do with it? Any one stating that some one isn't an asset because of their nationality just isn't smart. They're ignorant.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

I really like David Booth. I think he has potential to break out like Raymond, given the right linemates. He also uses his body effectivley, unlike alot of forwards in our top 9.

Obviously with the cap coming down, he's likely expendable, but Id much rather see both Ballard and Raymond gone before Booth. Would absolutley love to see him line up with a center like Roy, but I dont think Roy will be re-signing here, so there goes that option.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:24 AM

And I though social media was a form of self expression. For the religious, I understand that their faith is a huge part of who they are. He isn't harming anyone, or forcing anyone to read it. If it bothers you, don't read it.


like you said, he has a right to express himself however he wants, and i have a right to hate him for the obvious reasons

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:28 AM

As a person Booth seems great.

I hate on him as a player because he was brought in to replace Samuelsson, a CLUTCH 30 goal scorer for us. He's done nothing since he got here other than eat salary cap space. So people hate on him.

This is a professional sports. A cutthroat business not a popularity contest. Only results matter so people hate on him.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:30 AM

He's a one dimensional player. He can't kill penalties, he never passes, and he's overpaid.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:33 AM

I hate on him as a player because he was brought in to replace Samuelsson, a CLUTCH 30 goal scorer for us. He's done nothing since he got here other than eat salary cap space. So people hate on him.


Samuelsson was showing signs of decline, and Gillis had to act quickly to get something for him. What impressed me most was that we managed to get rid of Sturm, who had massive negative value. For anyone who criticize MG for trading Sturm after signing him, it was a trade or the AHL for him.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:35 AM

It just hasn't worked out for Booth here in Vancouver....He certainly does not suck as a player,it just seems every time he starts to get healthy and in his groove..he gets injured again.

This. He has the tools to be a great power forward and the hands to do it. But the injury bug has not been kind to him since he put on the Canucks jersey.

I am still willing to give him a year to see if he can stay healthy but if it doesnt pan out, he's gone.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:36 AM

I agree, people here are waaaaay too hard on Booth. He has the potential to be a real good 2nd line power forward

Last year was a transition year for him, plus he got injured for a month

This year he has been injured again.

If healthy, Booth definitely has the potential to be a 30 goal scorer. I think he deserves a full season next year to prove that. He has all the aspects of a clutch playoff performer.... speed, skill, grit (he has dropped em a few times), and can play a physical game.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:41 AM

Samuelsson was showing signs of decline, and Gillis had to act quickly to get something for him. What impressed me most was that we managed to get rid of Sturm, who had massive negative value. For anyone who criticize MG for trading Sturm after signing him, it was a trade or the AHL for him.


I agree he needed to be replaced, and Sturm needed to be gone.

But to replace Samuelsson with a guy like Booth, really isn't replacing him. You're getting a much lesser player for more money.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:43 AM

What people need to realize is that in Florida Booth was the number 1 option and the go-to guy. He is coming to a team where we have the Sedins, Burrows, Kesler and Edler as higher options . Then throw him on a line with Kesler and Raymond who are both 'shoot first' players and its gonna be tough for him to put up numbers like he was with the Panthers. Whats refreshing is that he isnt pouting or complaining and makes sure he works hard and puts effort in every shift.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:51 AM

What people need to realize is that in Florida Booth was the number 1 option and the go-to guy. He is coming to a team where we have the Sedins, Burrows, Kesler and Edler as higher options . Then throw him on a line with Kesler and Raymond who are both 'shoot first' players and its gonna be tough for him to put up numbers like he was with the Panthers. Whats refreshing is that he isnt pouting or complaining and makes sure he works hard and puts effort in every shift.


So because he's not the number 1 option it's ok for him to get paid $4million for 0 goals that weren't on empty nets? K, makes sense now.

Jesus, the excuses for Booth and Kassian are strong on CDC today.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:56 AM

With all the injuries it's very hard to assess his value. The limited time he was healthy, he played well and added a new dimension to the Canucks play. His overall stats in the NHL are impressive (377-104-95-199). If we had seen that player over the past 2 years, fans would have been very happy with him.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:59 AM

1 empty net goal for 4.2 million dollars = looked good this year? Explain yourself.....

Lol you don't have to score to play good
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:04 AM

Lol you don't have to score to play good


Exactly! Guys on the 2nd line aren't there to score goals, and Booth is a defensive specialist. Oh.. wait..
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:08 AM

Why does everyone hate Booth? Because Raymond is playing good this year!!! :bigblush:
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:08 AM

Samuelsson was showing signs of decline, and Gillis had to act quickly to get something for him. What impressed me most was that we managed to get rid of Sturm, who had massive negative value. For anyone who criticize MG for trading Sturm after signing him, it was a trade or the AHL for him.

Yeah,never mind talking about acquiring Sturm in the first place.
Samuellson had a cap hit of $2.5m while Booth (concussion history) is $4.2 m.
Yes,Mikael was getting long in the tooth and no,Gillis did not have to get something for him as he was acquired as a UFA.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:20 AM

So because he's not the number 1 option it's ok for him to get paid $4million for 0 goals that weren't on empty nets? K, makes sense now.

Jesus, the excuses for Booth and Kassian are strong on CDC today.


Its not an excuse, its called reality.....

Did i say his salary was ok ?

Did i say his lack of goals were ok ?

Im trying to give a reason as to why he isnt scoring the way he did in Florida......
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:58 AM

I think there is a stigma attached to him, not only is he not playing up to his 4.25M contract taking up valuable cap space (not at the moment but you know what I mean) but he also shares an opinion of a lot of American values that British Columbia tend to feel the opposite on.

BC is probably the most liberal province in the country with many citizens feeling pro-choice, pro-gay, ant-gun, anti-hunting, and can be considered quite secular. Booth comes off as the complete opposite and very open about these opinions. Not that that is his fault, he just happened to be traded to a team that A) dislikes a lot of these opinions and B) Has one of the most fanatical and critical fan bases in the league.

Personally, I don't hate him. He embraces his opinion on religion, guns, etc. but he isn't exactly like TT who comes of as a lunatic, Booth understands other people have their own opinions, and he seems to love the city.

I have heard rumors he pushes his ideals on teammates but that may just be speculation or false accusations.


You have heard rumours? David Booth is a victim of unfortunate circumstances.The Canucks are a better team with him in the lineup.

Way to use this thread to promote your obvious left wing ideals.

My turn.

Contrary to your baised opinions most folks in this province outside of Vancouver still embrace the conservitive values that built this great province.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:05 AM

Kinda reminds me of Steve Bernier who wasn't good enough even without the ridiculous cap hit. Sure Booth carries the puck more and generates more chances for himself, all this means nothing since he isn't producing.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:05 AM

You have heard rumours? David Booth is a victim of unfortunate circumstances.The Canucks are a better team with him in the lineup.

Way to use this thread to promote your obvious left wing ideals.

My turn.

Contrary to your baised opinions most folks in this province outside of Vancouver still embrace the conservitive values that built this great province.


There's no such thing as conservative values, just close-mindedness and hate-mongering.

Anyway, back to the actual discussion of a HOCKEY PLAYER. Booth hasn't met expectations, his production is well below his pay grade. Additionally, he hasn't exactly shown signs of chemistry with any of our players. He's not a guy we can rely on to kill penalties, or a go to guy for the power play. So he becomes a winger in the mid-6 that can't be used in key situations, and can't be relied upon to be anything but the shooter on a line. Booth, sadly, doesn't fit, and his cap hit of 4.2 in an era with the cap is set to quickly decline, he becomes a burden and an obstacle from this team succeeding.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:57 AM

He hasn't looked good at all when he's been in the lineup, he's had one memorable goal during his whole time has a Canuck. This is a typical shift from Booth, skate around away from the play, somehow get the puck, try to skate straight through the whole other team, turnover puck after failed moves, slowly skate to the bench and pray that next shift god will allow him to skate through an entire team.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

He's waaaaay too overpaid. David Booth is a decent two way player but with his salary I hope he stays on the long term injury list forever.

Edited by sgt. grumbles, 20 April 2013 - 11:01 AM.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:01 AM

He hasn't looked good at all when he's been in the lineup, he's had one memorable goal during his whole time has a Canuck. This is a typical shift from Booth, skate around away from the play, somehow get the puck, try to skate straight through the whole other team, turnover puck after failed moves, slowly skate to the bench and pray that next shift god will allow him to skate through an entire team.


Seriously, he is the worst. And if its true that he's tried to convert others in the locker room to his beliefs then I hope he never comes back! Can we buy him out already???
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:19 AM

I don't hate him.
We gave up two older wingers, for one broken younger winger.

Gillis was hoping we'd get Booth of 2008-09, he gambled, he lost.

At least Gillis didn't overpay like he did with Ballard.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:25 AM

Clowe had fewer goals this year than Booth at the deadline and many people here were salivating at the idea of him in a Nucks sweater. Booth was on a serious role prior to his knee injury last season, looked damn good when he returned too. He was also playing with injured Kes and MayRay, so im not gonna judge their chemistry on that short stint. I think Booth would be great with Higgins and Roy on the third.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:33 AM

I'm not the biggest Booth fan, but give the guy the credit he is due.
He has the best underlying numbers on the Canucks by a significant margin.
His corsi is +19.63 (3rd on the club, 4th last year) - this year he was getting only 45.9% offensive zone starts and producing 54.2% finishes - and he was doing that playing without Kesler on makeshift lines.
Booth is far too maligned on these boards - I understand he's not the most popular guy - not a lot of people here relate to his off-ice lifestyle - but he's a better hockey player than is recognized here. He's a guy who goes hard to the net (something folks here are always complaining about a lack of on this club), he's a very strong skater, plays a physical game, and he plays a solid two way game.
His production wasn't very good in his 12 games this year, but then again he was playing for the most part with a shutdown center - Lapierre is simply not going to create a whole lot of scoring chances for Booth.
Booth averages 23 goals a season (82 games) over his career - that was exactly the pace he scored at last year, despite the Kesler injuries and his own knee injury.
To complain about him as much as CDC does over a 12 game sample this season is really just hasty - and an oversimplified judgement of his play.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:34 AM

Torres skates well, hits, drives the net, fights, and puts up as many points for less than half the cap value.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:44 AM

I don't hate him.
We gave up two older wingers, for one broken younger winger.

Gillis was hoping we'd get Booth of 2008-09, he gambled, he lost.

At least Gillis didn't overpay like he did with Ballard.

4.25 million a year for David Booth.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:02 PM

-Overpaid
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-No-Chemistry
-Dont Care about your dog


You could also be describing Kesler with those. The difference is the location of their breakout seasons. Kesler had his breakout season in VAN so we remember it fondly. Booth had his in FLA do we dont care or remember. Both have been riddled with injury since that point.

Im not saying Booth is better than Kesler by any stretch of the word. Kesler is one of our 'heart' guys.

Also, Booth = Luongo of forwards. Too much money and not enough stat sheet positives to make you all happy.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:05 PM

didn't know people hated david booth. the guy's just had horrible luck since coming here. hasn't even played 82 games with us yet. injuries happen people. it's all a big mystery
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