n00bxQb Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Nabokov was reliably bad last season. Luongo was actually quite good save for a pair of bad games while Schneider was sick (i.e. 8 goals against vs. Detroit) where he normally would've been pulled. Those games dragged his stats down considerably given the short season and light workload (and they were still substantially better than Nabokov's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You are making illogical excuses. Chicago series he imploded and got pulled (and no, legendary players don't let in softies in the playoffs and get labeled chokers because of it). 8 goals in one game? Scored on Luongo? It doesn't matter how many goals we scored, we are talking about how Luongo played, and he played awful in Boston. He choked in Boston. It doesn't matter if we would or wouldn't have won the LA series, he didn't play well. how many coaches leave there goalies in that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Puck Daddy's top-10 list today. Lu at #3: 3. Roberto Luongo, Vancouver Canucks Sorry, but remind me again when Luongo suddenly turned terrible? Was it when the Canucks decided to pass the baton? Was it when his contract was deemed un-tradable? I’m willing to chalk up some of his underwhelming stats to mitigating circumstances, such as loathing the way one's employer has treated them. But he’s shown enough flashes that I don’t believe his skills have eroded. For my money, he’s still the third best goalie in the League. For his money, he had better be, for the Canucks' sake. http://sports.yahoo....html#more-64540 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 funny how one of the best goaltenders on the planet ... oh never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 how many coaches leave there goalies in that long. ...fact remains..he could not stop the puck...so..the necessity to keep pulling your #1 goalie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr4ilerP4rk Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Not even close. 20 is being generous.20-25.I would take many goalies over him. This fan base has become so jaded. Luongo is still world calss. We have been far too spoiled in this market since Dan Cloutier left town. Would any of you honestly take Niemi or Crawford ahead of Luongo? Yes he has to prove himself again, but he is top 5 in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr4ilerP4rk Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Luongo has pretty much always been (and will probably continue to be) an elite regular-season goalie. What separates him from the truly elite and greats from the past is that aside from one season (2007), he hasn't been able to elevate his game consistently in the playoffs. This is why since 2007 he's sporting a playoff GAA of 2.75 and .909 Sv%, a far cry from his regular season averages post 2007 - 2.37 GAA, .918 Sv%. Whatever the other factors may have been in those 5 postseasons (injuries, reffing, etc.), Luongo's game clearly regresses on average. You telling me that Luongo's struggles in the post season have nothing to do with this sheepish first line? Give me a break. Dont over-look the fact that the players in front of him always sh1t the bed come playoff time. If we had the killers to step up and score goals, that would take the spotlight off of the goalie. Think about what the Hawks were able to do with Crawford. He is a sieve and played like crap every second game, but they were able to step up their game enough to compensate for the weak goals he did allow. Canucks cant do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPrince Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Luongo: one of the top 10 goalies in the league based on skill alone? Sure. One of the top 10 goalies to trust if your life depended on it? Not so much. (Not a hater, Lu is hands down my favourite player and there's nothing I'd like more than having him take the Canucks to their first cup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 1: Lundqvist 2: Quick 3: Rinne 4: Niemi 5: Rask 6: Lehtonen 7: Bobrovsky 8 Schneider 9: Anderson 10: Backstrom 11: Smith 12: Kipper 13: Howard 14: Price 15: Crawford 16: Pavelec 17: Halak 18: Neuvirth 19: Holtby 20: Elliot 21: Nabokov 22: Luongo All those goalies I would take over Luongo ANYDAY Jeez! I love the Jets, but Pavelec is a nightmare in net. It's probably a good thing I'm not the Jets GM, but if the Canucks could have swapped Luongo for Pavelec, I would have been more then happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDrinkin Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 It's funny, people think they know, but he hasn't had a season to himself in a while. Mind you putting him at 22 is laughable, not sure what that ranking is based on lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Lou's also playing in an era where the league is concerned about the lack of scoring all round, They want to mess with goalies handling pucks, padding size and even considering increasing the net size. Can't always compare year to year and age to age. Lou is no Roy or Brodeur for that matter. Hard to compare like you said cause now they're considering reducing more goalie equipment: http://forum.canucks.com/topic/349143-report-nhl-looking-at-more-goalie-equipment-reductions-for-2013-14/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain-Canuck2562 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Not even close. 20 is being generous.20-25.I would take many goalies over him. 20? What have you been smoking??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IginlaFan 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 1: Lundqvist 2: Quick 3: Rinne 4: Niemi 5: Rask 6: Lehtonen 7: Bobrovsky 8 Schneider 9: Anderson 10: Backstrom 11: Smith 12: Kipper 13: Howard 14: Price 15: Crawford 16: Pavelec 17: Halak 18: Neuvirth 19: Holtby 20: Elliot 21: Nabokov 22: Luongo All those goalies I would take over Luongo ANYDAY Kippy is retiring, maybe replace him with Rammo, though i dont have any hopes in CGY's goaltending to do well this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Wow. Some people are just pathetic. Hate on one of the best goalies in the game, and in our history. Luongo is easily a top 5 1) Lundqvist 2) Quick 3) Rinne 4) Luongo 5) Bobrovsky (if he can do it again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Luo has a chance to redeem himself and -or play himself out of here. Sochi aside,I think he is going to do well and be completely focused on the job at hand if only to generate interest for his own market value and future options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuongovsTuuka Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 No, he's not.But I got suspended a day for having an opinion so I guess I'm not allowed to have an opinion against Luongo here so I'll stop... There are plenty of people who are not pro Luongo and avoid suspension. That is not why you got suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'm not terribly offended at the idea that Luo has to prove himself again. I think given the weird circumstances it does. That being said, I also firmly believe that fans need to get behind him and not pile on top of him. And like others have said, the article's author made a huge oversight leaving Schneider off his "Up & Coming" list. He may have limited experience, but what experience he does have has been impressive enough to warrant attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Puck Daddy's top-10 list today. Lu at #3: http://sports.yahoo....html#more-64540 Puck Daddy>>>>>>>>>CDC This is around where I'd put him, both because of current skill and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Puck Daddy>>>>>>>>>CDC This is around where I'd put him, both because of current skill and experience. That list is spot on In my opinion Rinne and Lu are interchangeable, as are Quick and Lund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbanks Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 elite in my mind is top 3... Luongo is not top 3.... and any goalie can fall out of that catagory on any given year ... seeing is how Lu's GAA and S% have been outside the top 10 last 2 years there is no way to call him an elite goalie until he gets back up there... just because your elite once doesn't mean you hold that title the rest of your career..you got to maintain... and going into this year all he is is a good goalie trying to prove to people he isnt a back up and can carry the majority of the workload once again and until he does that there no way you can call him elite.... if we went by NFL standards Lu would never have been thought of as elite ... you earn that title in football when you win the superbowl and are named the superbowl MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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