Merely Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Ok so he is 2 months away from being 23, and this is his 3rd year in the NHL. He has bad scoring stats, and He bring HIS A- game once every 3 games. And he is really good when he plays like that. In a few years he will be a good power forward. But not anything near guys like Nash, Lucic or even Bertuzzi. I know you guys keep saying he is only 22, but Lucic was a 30 goal scorer at 22. Will kassian be a good power forward? Yes Will be in the leagues top 5? Maybe Will he be what we think he will be? (some say better than Lucic) Most likely not. Will I get flamed for this? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAnuck Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I agree - people keep saying he is young, he will develop etc. and you're totally correct, he is young and he will continue to develop. However, at 22 nearly 23 and after 3 seasons in the NHL we SHOULD have a fair indication of where he will be at in the next 2-4 years. He will be entering the prime of his career in 4 years time and at the moment is so inconsistent, lazy, doesn't drive the net anywhere near enough and has a LONG way to go. Does that mean he is a bust? Definitely not. It simply means he won't reach the level of expectations Canucks fan have placed on him. He will never be anywhere near a Lucic, Nash or Bert... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merely Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 I agree - people keep saying he is young, he will develop etc. and you're totally correct, he is young and he will continue to develop. However, at 22 nearly 23 and after 3 seasons in the NHL we SHOULD have a fair indication of where he will be at in the next 2-4 years. He will be entering the prime of his career in 4 years time and at the moment is so inconsistent, lazy, doesn't drive the net anywhere near enough and has a LONG way to go. Does that mean he is a bust? Definitely not. It simply means he won't reach the level of expectations Canucks fan have placed on him. He will never be anywhere near a Lucic, Nash or Bert... Yup, but anything can happen, but come on people he is not that good as you think of him. He is good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I hate it when people say: "Kassian gon be a bust, COHO >>>>>>>>>>>>> KASSIAN MG SUCKS" I must give you credit for presenting your thoughts well. Good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsflash Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Did Kassian steal peoples Halloween candy? What's with the sudden onslaught of threads? Lol. There's only one thing we know about Kassian atm. It's that he's not working hard enough. Can't predict anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Good thing someone didn't make this EXACT thread an hour ago. Thanks for coming out though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Bertuzzi was playing on our 4th line at age 24. Comparing Kassian to guys like Nash, Lucic, and Bertuzzi right now is dumb. These guys either got their shot right away on weak teams, or had to earn their way up like Bertuzzi. Kassian will have to do what Bertuzzi did to become a top player. that takes patience. No wonder fans in this city are always so bitter. They have ridiculous expectations that are never met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Did Kassian steal peoples Halloween candy? What's with the sudden onslaught of threads? Lol. There's only one thing we know about Kassian atm. It's that he's not working hard enough. Can't predict anything else. Could definitely see him stealing candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magician Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I'm a huge Kassian fan (even have his jersey) and of course he will not become a Lucic. Lucic is an absolute beast. Kassian is alot different than Lucic though. Kassian has smooth hands with good vision and passing which Lucic didn't have at his age. On the other hand Lucic just goes and destroys people with the body, so they both play a different style. IMO 3 or 4 years and Kassian will be a 2nd liner putting up 25 goals and 35 assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsflash Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Could definitely see him stealing candy. Suspended 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 The problem with Kassian is your banking on his potential. He's definitely has more tools than Lucic. He's faster and more skilled than Lucic. The only thing is, Lucic has established himself to be a intimidating player while Kassian hasn't. Lucic knows his role and Kassian doesn't. He maybe lacking hockey IQ. Get Torts to develop Kassian's defensive game, and the offense will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Suspended 5 games. lol give your head a shake, recent repeat offender, at least 10. 15+ if skittles were involved, Shanny's favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Could definitely see him stealing candy. slash alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 It's plays like this that Kassian has to build off. He's got the foot speed now to make plays off the rush. He just needs to simplify his game and focus on north/south. It's when he tries to make cute little Sedin behind the back passes that he gets himself in trouble. Use the body to get the puck, take the puck to the net, park yourself at the net to create traffic. Simplify! Torts needs to drill home that message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Kinda like Bernier. Big, and you have high hopes but he never becomes anything more than a third liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Could definitely see him stealing candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Kinda like Bernier. Big, and you have high hopes but he never becomes anything more than a third liner. Bernier had hands of stone and couldn't skate worth crap. Completely different players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merely Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 Bertuzzi was playing on our 4th line at age 24. Comparing Kassian to guys like Nash, Lucic, and Bertuzzi right now is dumb. These guys either got their shot right away on weak teams, or had to earn their way up like Bertuzzi. Kassian will have to do what Bertuzzi did to become a top player. that takes patience. No wonder fans in this city are always so bitter. They have ridiculous expectations that are never met. The problem with Kassian is your banking on his potential. He's definitely has more tools than Lucic. He's faster and more skilled than Lucic. The only thing is, Lucic has established himself to be a intimidating player while Kassian hasn't. Lucic knows his role and Kassian doesn't. He maybe lacking hockey IQ. Get Torts to develop Kassian's defensive game, and the offense will come. I don't have high expectations for Kassian? Did you even read the thread? And Lucic has skill! He is just gifted with his Physical play. Lucic has 12 points in 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Ok so he is 2 months away from being 23, and this is his 3rd year in the NHL. He has bad scoring stats, and He bring HIS A- game once every 3 games. And he is really good when he plays like that. In a few years he will be a good power forward. But not anything near guys like Nash, Lucic or even Bertuzzi. I know you guys keep saying he is only 22, but Lucic was a 30 goal scorer at 22. Will kassian be a good power forward? Yes Will be in the leagues top 5? Maybe Will he be what we think he will be? (some say better than Lucic) Most likely not. Will I get flamed for this? Yes here lies the main problem of the majority of our fans, and it is that they expect way too much on our rosters. How many people actually expect Kassian will be on the same level than players like Nash or Bert? There is nothing wrong with expecting Kassian to be a good powerforward in the future. Whether he will be an elite such as Bert and Nash would be a totally new question that would involve a lot of other factors. We can all hope he will reach that level and he certainly has the tools to get there, but any sensible person will NOT EXPECT him to get there. and please dont throw lucic into this discussion. He's merely a product of being with teh Bruins which the league want to give it an identity of brute and puniishing. He will NOT be able to play the way he play now if he's on other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Bernier had hands of stone and couldn't skate worth crap. Completely different players. And Zack has mad dangles? At least Bernier could put the puck in the net. Kass is on pace for 16 points. Bernier had that with goals alone at the same age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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