JeremyCuddles Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 What is this, the NFL? Varlamov and Voynov, Russians and their crazy culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 The player should at least have a hearing before being suspended indefinitely. Such garbage that an employer can suspend/terminate an employee on a charge with no formal hearing or trial. I hope the NHLPA files a grievance. Guilty until proven innocent, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Reserving judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 @reporterchris: Suspended NHL players count against the salary cap. The #LAKings now have less than $500,000 in free space with six active defencemen. NICE! Love that the team gets punished too. In fact they should decrease their cap by 30 million. Screw LA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Wow why punish the team? Yeah as much as I hate LA I don't think teams should be punished like that. Though it being LA I'm sure Bettman will find a way to compensate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Wow why punish the team? Because they employ someone who (allegedly) abuses his wife? LA can fix their cap troubles easily - put Voynov on waivers. Someone will grab him, and they'll have abundant cap space, and good PR. In fact, I bet a team would still trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 One of the little drawbacks to LA's player development system is the overly aggressive tendencies caused by it. Drew Doughty rape charge. (Although that went nowhere) Voynov hospitalizing a woman. It's the pattern you're going to see when alcohol and mental immaturity/classlessness is thrown into the mix with these players already put on the outer edge of physical growth and healing via their teams' development system. Frankly, i'm surprised that there haven't been more incidents, but there's no coincidence that players of winning teams have had more incidents like these in recent years. It's good that the NHL took swift action here, and at least this problem isn't nearly as bad as it has been in the NFL. What? What on earth does their development program have to do with this incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 What? What on earth does their development program have to do with this incident? I lol'd as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganBattleaxe Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Hmmm, so why didn't they suspend & investigate Varlamov, too? Domestic abuse is a super hot topic right now - just wish they would have taken it more seriously last year. But Varlamov is a goalie & a good one, too....& he was playing lights-out at the time of his arrest, last year. I see the differences, now. And Varlamov's coach is also Patrick Roy - another infamous poster-boy for domestic abuse. No wonder the NHL decided to keep things more hush-hush back then, for a whole slew of reasons. How times have changed. Both incidents happened at the same time of year, if I recall. So what is it about shopping for Halloween costumes & the autumn blues, anyway? Big difference is that this girl ended up seriously hurt in the hospital and the staff called the police. Last time Varlies gf went in without a bruise on her saying he threw her through three walls and ripped off her arm and beat her with it. The NHL made the right call in both cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 What? What on earth does their development program have to do with this incident?It's superior to most development programs as it boosts performance and allows for rapid weight gain and muscle healing while not bogging down players at all, but the drawback is that amps up the aggressive tendencies of their players. This modern physical development program is similar to what we're seen in Boston and Chicago as well as various NFL teams. Some players can handle it better than others, but younger and/or less mature players are far more likely to fall into the negative aspects associated with this program. Esp. when alcohol abuse is involved, and I fully expect that it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Hmmm, so why didn't they suspend & investigate Varlamov, too? Domestic abuse is a super hot topic right now - just wish they would have taken it more seriously last year. But Varlamov is a goalie & a good one, too....& he was playing lights-out at the time of his arrest, last year. I see the differences, now. And Varlamov's coach is also Patrick Roy - another infamous poster-boy for domestic abuse. No wonder the NHL decided to keep things more hush-hush back then, for a whole slew of reasons. How times have changed. Both incidents happened at the same time of year, if I recall. So what is it about shopping for Halloween costumes & the autumn blues, anyway? “I think the landscape has changed for all of us over the past six months,” Daly said in an email to thn.com. “But that’s not the only reason for the difference in treatment. Circumstances were different (with) Varlamov. "I can’t get more specific than that.” Reading between the lines, he seems to be referring to the NFL's problems, the NHL clearly saw the public backlash with how they handled their problems and learned from that. However, this must be a much more serious case. With Varlamov, the NHL must have had reason to believe he was innocent, or at the very least didn't have enough evidence to suspend him. This is supported by the fact that Varlamov's charges were dropped not long after he was arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's superior to most development programs as it boosts performance and allows for rapid weight gain and muscle healing while not bogging down players at all, but the drawback is that amps up the aggressive tendencies of their players. This modern physical development program is similar to what we're seen in Boston and Chicago as well as various NFL teams. Some players can handle it better than others, but younger and/or less mature players are far more likely to fall into the negative aspects associated with this program. Esp. when alcohol abuse is involved, and I fully expect that it was. It seems to me you're accusing the LA Kings of giving their players steroids. Any evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It seems to me you're accusing the LA Kings of giving their players steroids. Any evidence?The steroid era is well over. I think the NHL and the teams within should be a bit more careful regarding this issue of the negatives associated with rapid player development and healing though, not to mention pain killers, esp. with the deaths of multiple players already attributed to drug and alcohol abuse coming from the pressures of playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure to Mogilny Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I dont mind the kings or not used to but they turning to trash they cant keep doing bad stuff like this just cause there good on the ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I dont mind the kings or not used to but they turning to trash they cant keep doing bad stuff like this just cause there good on the ice I'd treat them as inconsistent in terms of class and quality. Like your posts. Sometimes normal. Sometime not understand and can bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M A K A V E L I 96 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Apparently Sutter went knocking on Voynov's door and no one answered. https://twitter.com/LarryAltman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure to Mogilny Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I'd treat them as inconsistent in terms of class and quality. Like your posts. Sometimes normal. Sometime not understand and can bad. id be a liar if i dis agree with what u say about my posts (your not the first to say it) +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Apparently Sutter went knocking on Voynov's door and no one answered. https://twitter.com/LarryAltmanKnowing Sutter, he probably thought it was his own house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 The steroid era is well over. I think the NHL and the teams within should be a bit more careful regarding this issue of the negatives associated with rapid player development and healing though, not to mention pain killers, esp. with the deaths of multiple players already attributed to drug and alcohol abuse coming from the pressures of playing the game. I agree about the painkillers, but I'd like to know more specifics about this alleged "development program". Doughty was never even charged due to "major issues" with the woman's credibility. All NHL players and teams train hard and push their bodies to the limit. This is perfectly healthy and expected of pro athletes. Only banned substances are known to cause permanent behavioural changes, and would be consistent with your claims of increased muscle mass, faster healing, not bogging down players, and increased aggression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I agree about the painkillers, but I'd like to know more specifics about this alleged "development program". So would a lot of NHL gm's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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