Bill Sikes Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Don't need their permission. Considering that they've bought every politician in the country, I think you do, do you honestly think we live in a democracy? Its a feudal system with an elected king who need the blessing of the rich nobles to stay in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Considering that they've bought every politician in the country, I think you do, do you honestly think we live in a democracy? Its a feudal system with an elected king who need the blessing of the rich nobles to stay in power. They have done it in Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 They have done it in Ontario. Not $15/hr they haven't, and Ontario with one of the highest minimum wages in Canada is about the worst in Canada for youth unemployment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Not $15/hr they haven't, and Ontario with one of the highest minimum wages in Canada is about the worst in Canada for youth unemployment Yeah it will be a gradual process to raise higher. Where is the provincial stats for youth unemployment. I like to take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Not $15/hr they haven't, and Ontario with one of the highest minimum wages in Canada is about the worst in Canada for youth unemploymentI thought people hire more when you raise the minimum wage. That's what my friend Karl told me.You lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 It doesn't work. Some jobs are $8 an hour and $10 an hour. It has been shown to fail, time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yeah it will be a gradual process to raise higher. Where is the provincial stats for youth unemployment. I like to take a look. http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/eng/labourmarket/currenttrends/docs/monthly/201503.pdf I think you are arguing for what you hope will happen or think should happen, I am trying to point out what I think will probably happen, I think a $15/hour minimum wage will be death to small business and entrepeneurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Unnecessary. Just raise the personal exemption for income tax. Save micro businesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/eng/labourmarket/currenttrends/docs/monthly/201503.pdf I think you are arguing for what you hope will happen or think should happen, I am trying to point out what I think will probably happen, I think a $15/hour minimum wage will be death to small business and entrepeneurs If you jack it right to $15 then yah there will be an issue. Increase it slowly over a few years, allow businesses to adjust and consumers to benefit from increases in purchasing power. Many will say it is just catching up to inflation. Unnecessary. Just raise the personal exemption for income tax. Save micro businesses. That's not a bad idea too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I think it would be far more helpful if the government helped pay for adult education. It's hard to break out of the minimum wage cycle if you are 30 years old and stuck in a crappy job just to pay the bills. Even if it was something like a $10,000 student loan that would be forgiven if you successfully graduate from a 2-year or longer program. I don't believe in getting a free ride, but it would be nice if the government could help people improve their situation when they are struggling just to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckNut4Life Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 No thanks. Raise the wage of middle class and entry level professional careers instead. Low skill, low wage. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 When I was in high school in the 1980s McDonalds, Burger King, etc didnt pay a living wage. It was a place for 17-18 year olds to make a few bucks before they went on their way. Nobody stayed there for more than 6 months it seemed. Im assuming its largely the same now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 When I was in high school in the 1980s McDonalds, Burger King, etc didnt pay a living wage. It was a place for 17-18 year olds to make a few bucks before they went on their way. Nobody stayed there for more than 6 months it seemed. Im assuming its largely the same now. The jobs at those places have also become much easier to do as well, and most of the time they still screw up, LOL! Not sure how they can justify wanting $15 an hour when they can't even put a burger together properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 When I was in high school in the 1980s McDonalds, Burger King, etc didnt pay a living wage. It was a place for 17-18 year olds to make a few bucks before they went on their way. Nobody stayed there for more than 6 months it seemed. Im assuming its largely the same now. Indeed. Same for me when I was a teen in the 90s. Things sure do change with the entitlement era, including history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Richie Rich never eats an McDonalds. Where are you people getting this information from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I just want To know who actually thinks minimum wage jobs are meant to be livable wage jobs? They are not. They are great for young people living at home or part time jobs for students, or supplemental income for a spouse to earn some extra income to add to the total household income. If you think you can raise a family or own a home and pay all the bills plus food and extra curricular expenses you are out to lunch this is not what these low skilled low paying jobs are meant to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tortorella Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Most people in this thread are potatoes. There is a price per year for electronic drive through windows. Once the employee wage goes over they will be replaced. Raising minimum wage in a 1st world country solves very little and creates more problems. Most of us have the freedom to go to school and educate ourselves further to become more then manual labour. That is how you increase your value, not voting in the ndp union party that would make canada min wage 15$ while promoting unions. Unions policy is this: work less for more money. For successful liberalutopia see greece and soon to be italy. The real and ONLY solution to wage disparity and the gal between the top and bottom is education. I dont mean like 'education' i mean financial education. There is 0 reason to graduate highschool without having a solid start to understanding economics / accounting / finance. The main topics that I believe screw anyone who does t understand them is: debt and using it as a tool for growth versus a tool for consumerism, taxes and how to better tax plan for your future, and COMPOUNDING INTEREST. The last one is the main reason the 1% continues to put distance on everyone else. For example, id estimate more then half if not wayyy more then half the population doesnt understand the banking system. If you put 100$ the bank can loan out 10000$ and every penny of interest they gain increases how much they can loan by 1$. This is why rrsp's are so promoted. Banks get your money to invest, government gets your money for investing and you get your money when you retire (lol). Wake up. I am running for premier in 2 elections time. We will change bc and then canada. But only by investing in our education and changing the curriculum to reflect actually teaching useful information. Oh look, next week were learning all about the byzenteen(sp) empire. Thats going to be amazing for my taxes or my retirement. Weee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tortorella Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 The jobs at those places have also become much easier to do as well, and most of the time they still screw up, LOL! Not sure how they can justify wanting $15 an hour when they can't even put a burger together properly. And holy sht this. How many times has my bagle with cream cheese been burnt and cut only half way though. And you want a 40ish percent raise? GFYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 And holy sht this. How many times has my bagle with cream cheese been burnt and cut only half way though. And you want a 40ish percent raise? GFYS But they want to buy a house, car, etc. with their bagel job. Must be able to live on every wage. Otherwise, those amazing people who do nothing with their lives and work a job for teenagers might feel bad for being in the position they put themselves in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Most people in this thread are potatoes. There is a price per year for electronic drive through windows. Once the employee wage goes over they will be replaced. Raising minimum wage in a 1st world country solves very little and creates more problems. Most of us have the freedom to go to school and educate ourselves further to become more then manual labour. That is how you increase your value, not voting in the ndp union party that would make canada min wage 15$ while promoting unions. Unions policy is this: work less for more money. For successful liberalutopia see greece and soon to be italy. The real and ONLY solution to wage disparity and the gal between the top and bottom is education. I dont mean like 'education' i mean financial education. There is 0 reason to graduate highschool without having a solid start to understanding economics / accounting / finance. The main topics that I believe screw anyone who does t understand them is: debt and using it as a tool for growth versus a tool for consumerism, taxes and how to better tax plan for your future, and COMPOUNDING INTEREST. The last one is the main reason the 1% continues to put distance on everyone else. For example, id estimate more then half if not wayyy more then half the population doesnt understand the banking system. If you put 100$ the bank can loan out 10000$ and every penny of interest they gain increases how much they can loan by 1$. This is why rrsp's are so promoted. Banks get your money to invest, government gets your money for investing and you get your money when you retire (lol). Wake up. I am running for premier in 2 elections time. We will change bc and then canada. But only by investing in our education and changing the curriculum to reflect actually teaching useful information. Oh look, next week were learning all about the byzenteen(sp) empire. Thats going to be amazing for my taxes or my retirement. Weee I peed a little laughing. I mean, good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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