Multiple refugee claimants have been found in possession of child pornography at or near the Quebec border crossing

[JM_]

I guess it says something about our system that we caught these creeps. No one said every claimant was going to be an angel, we have to resist the temptation to paint all these folks with the same brush. But maybe lets step up the screening a bit more?

[Fateless]

I'm not really sure I see the fuss.

 

Many Canadians are found possessing child pornography every day. They face the consequences prescribed by law.

 

A couple refugees have been found possessing child pornography. They will face the consequences prescribed by law.

 

The real issue here is that the public is setting themselves up for failure by expecting every single refugee let into Canada to be perfect angels. There are going to be refugees let into Canada that break the law. There are always bad eggs and while the screening process will remove most of the bad eggs, some previously good eggs will likely turn rotten after being in Canada for a while. No screening process will be able to detect that, and quite frankly that's why our country has domestic laws to deal with people that break the law. 

 

Its no different than a Canadian doing a bad thing. I know plenty of Canadians that I'd be much more scared to be locked up in a room with than these refugees, but no one is calling for those Canadians to be deported. 

[Fateless]

1 minute ago, S'all Good Man said:

I guess it says something about our system that we caught these creeps. No one said every claimant was going to be an angel, we have to resist the temptation to paint all these folks with the same brush. But maybe lets step up the screening a bit more?

Totally just sniped my words. 

[JM_]

2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

I'm sure they will be soon, but those were just the ones who were caught.  It's an easy enough crime to discover if the people perpetrating it aren't very bright.  How many more haven't been caught?  The rules of marriage/sex with young women are different for many of those migrants, especially ones who previously lived in tribal-controlled regions.

they had to have brought this with them to the US or produced it in the US, so why weren't they caught while in the US? This is incredibly creepy but I don't think its fair to say all people fleeing are of the same ilk. 

[Ryan Strome]

22 minutes ago, LordCanuck said:

Legally they cant deny people at the border. Even the illegal crossers but they can find stuff like this afterwords and deport them back to their original country. It seems most of u dont understand how the law works. Most of these people will probably be deported. They arnt true refugees anyways

Passing legislation with a majority government is pretty simple. However in this case Trudeau and the liberal party seem very happy and comfortable with these border jumpers.

[Ryan Strome]

26 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Well.....depends on your idea of extreme.  3 people out of thousands fleeing the US....all of them apparently trash

 

I guess it depends on your definition of extreme

 

3 that we know of hip.

[JM_]

2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

3 that we know of hip.

lets not march out the jelly bean jar gifs on this one, ok? I'm just glad they caught them. Given that they did, I'd suggest that our border agents are doing a good job. 

[Ryan Strome]

Just now, S'all Good Man said:

lets not march out the jelly bean jar gifs on this one, ok? I'm just glad they caught them. Given that they did, I'd suggest that our border agents are doing a good job. 

There was also the incident at West Edmonton mall. Again it's a few we know of and how many do we not know about? 

 

This PM is putting Canadians at risk with just opening our doors to everyone and anyone.

[Fateless]

Just now, Ryan Strome said:

There was also the incident at West Edmonton mall. Again it's a few we know of and how many do we not know about? 

 

This PM is putting Canadians at risk with just opening our doors to everyone and anyone.

That's such a poor argument though. We aren't at any statistically higher identifiable risk by letting refugees in. Canadians perpetrate crimes on a daily basis - refugees have perpetrated very few crimes overall since entering Canada. You can't just sit at the keyboard waiting for a refugee to screw up just so you can be all "SEE, I WAS RIGHT". What about the goods those refugees have done in Canada? What about the crimes that didn't happen because they were here to help stop them? What about the lives saved by refugee doctors let into Canada? 

 

This is the same lie that is being spewed in the States that everyone should be afraid of Muslims and foreign terrorists when the real threat are the domestic terrorist groups like the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists. 

[JM_]

3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

There was also the incident at West Edmonton mall. Again it's a few we know of and how many do we not know about? 

 

This PM is putting Canadians at risk with just opening our doors to everyone and anyone.

If thats what he was doing, I'd agree with you, but it isn't. The refugee screening process has been verified as a good one. The number of issues that pop up with refugees isn't more than what comes from our own population. If you had evidence that refugee groups committed more crimes you'd have a point, but they don't. 

[Fanuck]

36 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

That really bothers me.   For a lark, as have been hearing "nothing" from Ottawa on this I brought it up on the PMs Twitter site and the PM (his staff) blocked me two minutes later from commenting on his page just for sending him the Global News article referring to this. And all my previous comments on any other subject are marked as spam!

 

Freedom of speech, not in Canada.

That's bs them blocking you.   Not to make a federal case out of this but if you feel strongly about this you should bring this up with the MP in your local riding and let them know your thoughts. 

[Fateless]

42 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

That really bothers me.   For a lark, as have been hearing "nothing" from Ottawa on this I brought it up on the PMs Twitter site and the PM (his staff) blocked me two minutes later from commenting on his page just for sending him the Global News article referring to this. And all my previous comments on any other subject are marked as spam!

 

Freedom of speech, not in Canada.

That's a classic misunderstanding of freedom of speech though.

 

No one is required to give you a platform to say your piece. You can disagree with the Prime Minister all you want, but they have every right to block you for whatever reason they want to. Does it look bad? Yup. Is it morally repugnant to shut down opposition without healthy debate? In my opinion, yup. But that isn't an attack on freedom of speech.

[Ryan Strome]

2 minutes ago, Fateless said:

That's such a poor argument though. We aren't at any statistically higher identifiable risk by letting refugees in. Canadians perpetrate crimes on a daily basis - refugees have perpetrated very few crimes overall since entering Canada. You can't just sit at the keyboard waiting for a refugee to screw up just so you can be all "SEE, I WAS RIGHT". What about the goods those refugees have done in Canada? What about the crimes that didn't happen because they were here to help stop them? What about the lives saved by refugee doctors let into Canada? 

 

This is the same lie that is being spewed in the States that everyone should be afraid of Muslims and foreign terrorists when the real threat are the domestic terrorist groups like the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists. 

So then clearly we don't need anymore criminals. Shouldn't refugees and immigrants be proud and thrilled to come to Canada?  I wonder if it was your daughters that were assaulted by a man that the government gave your hard earned money To if you would feel the same way.

[JM_]

1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

So then clearly we don't need anymore criminals. Shouldn't refugees and immigrants be proud and thrilled to come to Canada?  I wonder if it was your daughters that were assaulted by a man that the government gave your hard earned money To if you would feel the same way.

surely you've experienced something bad in your life by some individual. Do you actually blame the entire group or race for the one incident? Come on man, you can see how poor the logic is on this line of reasoning. 

[Ryan Strome]

5 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said:

If thats what he was doing, I'd agree with you, but it isn't. The refugee screening process has been verified as a good one. The number of issues that pop up with refugees isn't more than what comes from our own population. If you had evidence that refugee groups committed more crimes you'd have a point, but they don't. 

Well for one are those records kept? Honest question. Sweden doesn't release this info. 

 

Our screening process may be better than other nations however clearly it's not good enough. When one also makes a promise to bring in a certain amount of refugees by the end of the year is it more political or is it about keeping Canadians safe?

[RRypien37]

George Soros approves. 

[Ryan Strome]

Just now, S'all Good Man said:

surely you've experienced something bad in your life by some individual. Do you actually blame the entire group or race for the one incident? Come on man, you can see how poor the logic is on this line of reasoning. 

It's not about blaming its what's acceptable where they're coming from so it happens here. Is that fair to Canadians?

 

It's happening daily to women in Europe. How come those in support say we must help them their country is ravaged by war but yet are fine with next to no help for Africa?

[Warhippy]

43 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

Poor Nickelback.  Always getting beat on.  I actually still enjoy a few of their songs.

 

Anywho, we have a small city called Lackawanna as part of Metro Buffalo.  A decent sized chunk of it is Muslim.  Many of them are rude, not very nice, and aren't very fond of Americans.  They like what we have in this country and what they can take for themselves though.  It's parasitic in nature.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Six

Soooo...never been to Quebec or?

[Warhippy]

21 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

There was also the incident at West Edmonton mall. Again it's a few we know of and how many do we not know about? 

 

This PM is putting Canadians at risk with just opening our doors to everyone and anyone.

With all due respect, his actual numbers for refugee claimants are exactly on par with what Harper was promising.

 

Saying he is putting people at risk is pretty specious

[SabreFan1]

Just now, Warhippy said:

Soooo...never been to Quebec or?

God no.  I tease Anglo-Canadians, but still very much enjoy their company.  I have only met one French-Canadian person that I like.  The ones I've met in the past are usually whiny, rude, self-indulgent jerks.