kurtzfan Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Though i use a U-Pass, my complain is that those machines need to give back change! Those machines sometimes even run out of transfers. The bus drivers puts yellow bag cover on top of the machine. As a result, the bus drivers let the passengers take the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Though i use a U-Pass, my complain is that those machines need to give back change! I think our bus change machine systems are pretty good, considering in most other places around the world all you do is drop the change into a bucket/box and the driver rips out a transfer for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I think our bus change machine systems are pretty good, considering in most other places around the world all you do is drop the change into a bucket/box and the driver rips out a transfer for you. Not to mention a lot of American buses have to have fareboxes that accept dollar bills... It takes a while to slide the bill into the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I think our bus change machine systems are pretty good, considering in most other places around the world all you do is drop the change into a bucket/box and the driver rips out a transfer for you. I still remember my bus rides in Honolulu. Those are awesome. It took me a while to insert twelve $1 dollar bills (i was paying for 8 people - $1.50 each) and the driver just said screw it and ripped out 15 or so transfers for me... Come to think of it, I could have sold them for $1 and make a profit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Those machines sometimes even run out of transfers. The bus drivers puts yellow bag cover on top of the machine. As a result, the bus drivers let the passengers take the ride. We need a smart card system. Till then, let do with FareSavers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtzfan Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 We need a smart card system. Till then, let do with FareSavers. yes, Smart card system. The translink is still working on it. I remember there was an article about smart card system on the Chinese newspaper. It won't be out until 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointblank Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 yes, Smart card system. The translink is still working on it. I remember there was an article about smart card system on the Chinese newspaper. It won't be out until 2010. And make it RFID... not magnetic stripe. Magnetic stripes wear out after a while... RFID's don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerGenuineDraft Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) I hate how busses dont give change back. I insert 2$, expecting 25(edit) cents back. But thats not going to happen is it? Edited November 3, 2008 by ~luongo~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiLBoY Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I hate how busses dont give change back. I insert 2$, expecting 24 cents back. But thats not going to happen is it? That's exactly what i said. I remember the first time, i was quite surprised. I placed in $2, and i asked the driver where my change was, he said "there is no change" I was like the frack!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerGenuineDraft Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 That's exactly what i said. I remember the first time, i was quite surprised. I placed in $2, and i asked the driver where my change was, he said "there is no change" I was like the frack!! Lol. I didnt even ask. I just firgured it out, as I saw everyone puling out the pennies & there little nickels and dimes. If only I knew... They should make it free if your going from you school; to somewhere else. I cant believe schools dont cover transit in there go!cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 You people do realize that there are huge stickers on the bus fare machines that say "Exact Fare Change Only". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) lmao..... Robertson rides one zone too far Ticketed candidate says $173 fine is unfair to low-income earners Christina Montgomery, The Province Published: Sunday, November 02, 2008 Vancouver mayoral hopeful Gregor Robertson says he has yet to pay a $173 fine for accidentally riding two SkyTrain zones on a one-zone fare because he wants to draw attention to what he calls unreasonably high fines. The Vision Vancouver candidate was a Vancouver NDP MLA in June of 2007 when he was returning from a meeting in Burnaby a SkyTrain stop or two from Vancouver, he says. Robertson, known as an avid cyclist, says that when he rides SkyTrain, it's normally in Vancouver's one-fare zone. After the meeting, hopping on SkyTrain for the first time in about six months, he automatically bought a single-zone ticket, he says. Adult weekday fares at the time were $2.25 per single zone and $3.25 for two zones. Robertson says that transit police checked tickets as the train pulled out of Burnaby into Vancouver and told him his ticket was inadequate. Being in a fare-paid zone without a valid fare is a provincial offence. Robertson says he told the officers it was "a dumb mistake" and paid an extra dollar immediately at a ticketing machine to upgrade his fare for two zones, but was surprised to see the ticket issued for the violation carried a $173 fine. He told The Province yesterday that he has intended to use his hearing, scheduled for Dec. 4 in Vancouver, to draw attention to what he considers transit fines that are disproportionate to offences. Noting that the fine is "173 times the mistake I made," he said his concern was for low-income riders for whom the fine would be costly -- particularly for those who had simply made a mistake while buying a ticket. "I wanted to raise the issue of how big a fine it is for a one-dollar mistake," he said. "I bought a ticket and made a fare mistake . . . but the fine should be fair." NPA mayoral candidate Peter Ladner told The Province yesterday that he has no outstanding fines of any kind. Of TransLink's 173 million trips in 2007, 71 million were on SkyTrain. TransLink's overall fare revenue was $317 million. TransLink estimates that fare evasion on SkyTrain is about 5.4 per cent. The 4.2 million unpaid rides across the whole system -- including SkyTrain and SeaBus -- cost the agency between $5.3 million and $9.5 million, TransLink says. The likelihood of being ticketed is one per cent. In 2006, 30,000 tickets -- 82 per day -- were issued. Eight per cent of that ticket total, or 2,400, were paid. cmontgomery@theprovince.com So does this mean if he is elected mayor I don't have to pay Property Taxes because they are unfair for low income earners? Honestly I was going to vote Vision, but I am not anymore. Not saying I will vote NPA, but I will not vote for him. Attitude reflects leadership. If your leaders are not willing to follow the rule of law, your citizens will not either. What's next if he gets a speeding ticket he won't pay because he was only going a little over the limit? As a politician if he doesn't like the rules he should work at changing them not breaking them. The fact that he made a mistake wouldn't have changed my vote, but the fact he isn't owning up to his error has made me change my vote to Ladner now. In other news, a senior had his wheelchair a bit too close to the tracks at Metrotown Station yesterday. He fell onto the tracks, was hit by a train, and amazingly survived with only abrasions, cuts, and a broken leg. If you ask me, the wheelchair that also fell on the track saved him. Edited November 3, 2008 by nitronuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 the old Vancouver trolley buses on their way to Argentina: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Gregor Robertson got what he deserved. The law is the law. If you got beef against it, then propose a new law that gets rid of the old one. This sort of "political activism" is what turns many regular people off - the fact that lawmakers and councilmen have no regard for what the current rules are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 the old Vancouver trolley buses on their way to Argentina: If they're still usable, why are we shipping them off to Argentina? If they're not usable or are high maintenance, how can the Argentinians afford to upkeep them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) If they're still usable, why are we shipping them off to Argentina? If they're not usable or are high maintenance, how can the Argentinians afford to upkeep them? Accessibility issues. With the Paralympics coming, it is imperative that this city have a completely wheelchair-accessible fleet. (Quite frankly, having those old non-accessible trolleys was just embarrassing; they ran mostly north-south routes, which means that wheelchair users had to make huge detours just to get downtown.) That, and because they were 20+ years old and falling apart. Edited November 4, 2008 by BuckyHermit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Accessibility issues. With the Paralympics coming, it is imperative that this city have a completely wheelchair-accessible fleet. (Quite frankly, having those old non-accessible trolleys was just embarrassing; they ran mostly north-south routes, which means that wheelchair users had to make huge detours just to get downtown.) Installing wheelchair lifts on them should be cheaper than buying new buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Installing wheelchair lifts on them should be cheaper than buying new buses. Well, consider the fact that those buses were over 20 years old as well, and were really falling apart. If I recall, the new ones have higher capacity as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyislife4 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 ^ I think it's about the same. Then again, the new ones are definitely better in terms of accessibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointblank Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 ^ I think it's about the same. Then again, the new ones are definitely better in terms of accessibility. The older buses could never reach their capacity due to internal space issues, while the newer ones can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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