awalk Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Thank goodness they matched, I did not want to see Philly strong arm Nashville out of Weber. A big big reason for it was probably the Predators trying to say "you can't bully us out of our franchise player with money" Would have been a ridiculous thing to happen. Philly purposely front loaded the contract with huge bonuses knowing Nashville is a small market team. Glad to see they didn't cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandcanuck Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 We'll see how this plays out, but if I am Nashville, there is no way I change the contract now by adding a NMC/NTC. Weber can serve his mandatory year, then the door is open to moving him wherever it is most beneficial for the team, which could mean going somewhere he really doesn't want to go. That's the way the game is played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prngr44 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I agree. I hope they don't add the NTC. If he wanted one, it should have been in the offer sheet he signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttock Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Unbelievable!! Just rebuild already, they could have just shopped the 4 first round picks for better players, or kept them and pulled a Pittsburg or Edmonton and build through the draft. I feel bad for Weber too, he obviously wanted out, now he's stuck for atleast another year if not more. He can always demand a trade but who would take that contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiun Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 to FLA: Luongo, Raymond to VAN: Weber, Fla prospect, Fla 3rd to NASH: Van 1st 2013, Van 1st 2014, Fla 1st 2013, Tanev, Schroeder Think that would work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancanfan Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=638613&cmpid=rss-News Flyers GM Paul Holmgren spoke to the media via a conference call on Wednesday morning. Below is the transcript from the call. Philadelphia Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren: Q: Because of the way the offer sheet to Shea Weber was front-loaded, did you expect Nashville to match it? "No, it was structured where we were hopeful that they wouldn't match it. But, obviously they did and as I said yesterday we wish Shea and the Predators all the best. We tried to add, in our minds, one of the best defenseman in the game to a good, young, up-and-coming team, and it didn't work." Q: When did you learn that [The Predators] were going to match [the offer sheet], and how much of a disappointment did it come as? "I learned at about 3:15 yesterday afternoon, and the initial reaction was disappointment, but I guess we move on. The chance of them matching was always there however hopeful we were of them not, it was always there, and they did. Now we move forward and see what we can do. We like our team; we think it's a good, up-and-coming young team, and we will continue to try and add to it and make it better, which is what we tried to do with the offer sheet. We'll move forward." Q: I guess any other moves, be it on defense or forward would involve a trade. Are you of the mindset that any significant trade is in the picture for you guys right now? "No, I don't necessarily agree with what you said. There are still players out there that require a trade. It's July 25th today, there's still plenty of time before we can plan and rule out anything right now. As I said earlier, we really like our team, we certainly don't want to make any drastic changes, but we are going to continue to look at ways to get better. The object is to have the best team going into training camp and that's what we're going to do. We'll see what happens." Q: You guys seemed to send the signal that you were trying to upgrade your defense, at least on the physical end, but as far as filling a pretty big hole on Claude Giroux's wing, is that still something you might be looking at also? "Looking at my board I don't know that I see the hole that you see. We're obviously trying to get Jakub [Voracek] signed, and it's only a matter of time. We envision Jake playing with Claude [Giroux] next year so, that's the way we look at it, so I don't see that as a big hole. Getting back to our defense, I really like our defense. What we did over the last little while here was try to add one of the best players in the game to our team. Q: Who was a defenseman? "Yes. But that doesn't mean we don't like our defense moving forward. As I said, we have a good up-and-coming young team, and we're trying to add to it without subtracting and we'll continue to try and do that with the mindset that we'll do what we think is necessary to make our team as good as it can be." Q: RFA offers are unusual of course. Would you say this is a one shot thing because of the caliber of Shea Weber or would you explore other RFA's out there? "There's obviously players that are still left that are restricted, and Jake Voracek is one of them. Does that mean some team is thinking about doing an offer sheet on Jake? I have no idea. We took a shot at Shea Weber because he's Shea Weber. I don't think there are any Shea Weber's out there that are left in that category. So I guess to answer your question, I don't see that as being an option certainly this year." Q: How important was it to protect guys like [sean] Couturier and [brayden] Schenn? "We believe we have a good, young team that is only going to continue to get better. What we are trying to do is add to it without trying to take anything away. Anything we have done this summer has been just that. A caveat to that is we will look and see what we can do to make our team better, but our mind set is 'We like our team'. So, we are not looking to make big changes, we are looking to add without subtracting. We will see what we can do." Q: Have you ever had a summer like this? "Personally, I haven't. I am sure it has been done before. The players that were available via free agency we went after were really good players. They obviously had a lot of interest. Those players, in the first wave, got to sit back and pick and choose. With Shea [Weber], obviously Nashville recognized his value to their franchise and team as well. We tried and we will continue to try to make ourselves better." Q: On meeting with Shane Doan… "I don't want to put words in Shane's mouth, but I think first and foremost he would like things to work out in Phoenix. I don't believe he is going to do anything until he has some answers in his mind as to what is happening there. I think he is a very loyal guy. He is loyal to Don Maloney, and the Phoenix franchise. I give him kudos for that. We will see how it plays out. I think in the end he would rather be in Phoenix in a perfect world. [it's] where his family has been raised. If he is ready to make a move, we have interest." Q: At this point, are you more inclined to look from within? With Gustafsson, Bourdon, and Manning? "We do feel that way. We looked at that as an opportunity to add one of the top defensemen, if not the top guy. Our shot, it didn't work. I love our defense; I love the youth of our defense. We have good size and we have some kids that have a taste now in Marc-Andre [bourdon], Erik [Gustafsson] and Brandon Manning as well. We added Bruno Gervais in the summertime, who we really like. We are perfectly happy with our defense right now. To try and add a guy like Shea Weber, doesn't really speak to anything other than maybe you are adding one of the best guys in the league." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuck Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Why are people trash talking him like he really screwed himself, he likely understood their was a good chance they would match. His main priority was to get a long term contract before the cba, this much should be obvious by now, he was not interested in a 1 year offer. This was a brilliant business move for him to maximize his value long term. And should his numbers dip this season without suter, his worth is at an all time high right now. After that he can push for a trade much like nash did if he really wants out. Gillis said the same thing yesterday weber wanted a long term contract before the new cba, he knew all possibilities and all outcomes by signing that offersheet, he did not screw himself, or do anything he didnt expect could happen, he wanted to get paid long term. For weber a long term contract before the new cba trumped freedom to play wherever he wanted next year. He got what he wanted, and if hes unhappy, he will ask for a trade next offseason, he was a predator with nashville another year anyway even if he did not sign the offer sheet. I feel bad for posters who think he screwed himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suolucidir Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Shea is Probably just sittin somehwere Sighing over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 to FLA: Luongo, Raymond to VAN: Weber, Fla prospect, Fla 3rd to NASH: Van 1st 2013, Van 1st 2014, Fla 1st 2013, Tanev, Schroeder Think that would work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyAL Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Unbelievable!! Just rebuild already, they could have just shopped the 4 first round picks for better players, or kept them and pulled a Pittsburg or Edmonton and build through the draft. I feel bad for Weber too, he obviously wanted out, now he's stuck for atleast another year if not more. He can always demand a trade but who would take that contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkyway Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Here's a meaningless trivia question. Weber is due to get 1 million a year, fourteen years from now. By that time the minimum might well be over a million. Q. does he get a million or the minimum? (assuming it's over a million) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybone Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Here's a meaningless trivia question. Weber is due to get 1 million a year, fourteen years from now. By that time the minimum might well be over a million. Q. does he get a million or the minimum? (assuming it's over a million) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 You win the most creative question of the day. I assume they would be forced to give whatever the minimum is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 The thing is that once they pay him the signing bonuses his contract is easier to swallow and therefore the Preds can demand more for him in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PredsFanFromLa Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Shea weber had a conference call today with the media: this is what he said: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120725/SPORTS02/307250151/Nashville-Predators-Shea-Weber-wants-finish-career-Music-City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Got me thinking could you build a good team with late first round picks. Some of the bottom 11 first round draft picks form the last 13 years: Jordan Eberle - Mike Richards - Corey Perry Steve Ott - Ryan Kesler - Brad Boyes David Perron - Travis Zajac - Alexander Frolov Steve Downie- Brian Sutherby- T.J. Oshie Extras: Justin Williams/ Nicklas Bergfors/ Tyler Ennis Niklas Kronwall - Brain Boyle Michael Del Zotto- Mike Green Brent Burns-John Carlson Extras: Jeff Schultz Cory schneider Tuukka Rask Up and comers : Viktor Tikhonov/ Carter Ashton/ Marcus Johansson/ Jacob Josefson/ Quinton Howden/ Nicklas Jensen/ Mark Pysyk/ Jarred Tinordi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Shea weber had a conference call today with the media: this is what he said: http://www.tennessea...reer-Music-City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Sorry but this wreaks of BS. He wanted a big payday, bottom line. I hate when players try and sugarcoat things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Of course, he could have wanted a big payday AND to stay in Nashville. Those two aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, he might have wanted to play in Philly OR Nashville as those don't ahve ot be mutually exclusive either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Canuckian Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Just read today that when the Preds decided to match the offer sheet, Poile asked Trotz to drive to Weber's house to deliver the news in person. So Weber has an off-season home in Nashville. That doesn't sound like the kind of player that really wanted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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