JustABandwagoner Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Whatever we do, do NOT draft Virtanen. His numbers are inflated. Apparently he played with 2 overagers. And he just had surgery. People also say, he has a very low hockey IQ. Future 3rd liner at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tambellini's Wrist Shot Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Thats good for goals per game but it also doesn't explain that the level of competetion is stronger in the WHL. Kamloops and Prince George mop the floor over Sherbrooke and Saint John That explains why a team from the Q has won 3 of the past 4 Memorial Cups? There are plenty of good teams in the QMJHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFrame14 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Good article thanks for posting OP! I agree with it. Virtantin will be a solid player but picking him at 6th is too high. I'm hoping Benning manages to trade up and snag Reinhardt but that is unlikely. If any of the top 5 fall out then we def need to take them. Otherwise I'm hoping for ehlers or nylander at 6. If we trade kes to Anaheim for the tenth pick than I have no problem taking the local kid JV. Either way I'm so damn excited for this draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tambellini's Wrist Shot Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Give Virtanen Drouin and the Q and gee, I think he doesn't do better than Ehlers. Oh wait, i'm not high on crack. I think Virtanen KILLS Ehlers's stats-wise and in terms of overall ability in that case. You clearly didn't read the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 the Kyle Beach comparison in this article is just way off.... Kyle Beach was a big, moderately skilled forward with an attitude problem... I don't think Virtanen will be a 1st line All STar, but I don't think he will be a bust either and will enjoy a long NHL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everacanuck13 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Stats doesnt mean everything. like sure, you can score 1000 goals in a season, but what about the rest? he scores a thousand in once season, but turns the puck over 3000 times. You have to look for every part of the game, but were fans, all we do is look at stats and be excited about a player. Ehlers = Speed, Dynamic, Good shot, Virtanen = Checking, Heavy shot, good skatin for a big guy. Both of them are not so good in defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Stats doesnt mean everything. like sure, you can score 1000 goals in a season, but what about the rest? he scores a thousand in once season, but turns the puck over 3000 times. You have to look for every part of the game, but were fans, all we do is look at stats and be excited about a player.Ehlers = Speed, Dynamic, Good shot, Virtanen = Checking, Heavy shot, good skatin for a big guy. Both of them are not so good in defense.The idea is to guage where they'll be, development wise years from now playing a much different and difficult pro game. I'm not against either because both could turn out great, although with Shinkaruk/Horvat and Kassian I do think the Canucks could use another scorer/physical presence alongside Jensen. If MDC drops he is another really good player to take as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Many want to take a chance on Virtanen. But I feel we have taken chances on people in Schroeder and White for example. Most recently Jensen and Gaunce. I really hope both Jensen and Gaunce crack the line-up and even expect them to. But I feel we went on a leap and hope they were the guys at the time. Of course Virtanen is higher up in the standings, but I feel we will take yet another chance on him, hoping he will be the guy. I'd rather take someone solid that will take a few year sot groom, but will most likely be a star if coached and developed in the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynideSnipe Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Nylander is better than both of them. If all of the top 4 are gone. Nylander is hands down the best pick. Or if hopefully, Burke can be an idiot and pick Virtanen 4th, possibly leaving us with Draisaitl/Bennett. Other wise, Nylander all the way!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Ehlers. Pick Ehlers. Draft Ehlers. Actually anyone but Nylander... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupless44 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I am starting to think in the last 24 hours if we stay at 6 we are taking Ritchie. If we go the smaller skill route I think it is Nylander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Ehlers. Pick Ehlers. Draft Ehlers. Actually anyone but Nylander... Im fine with Ehlers. Pick anyone BUT Virtanen. Bust im calling it. Call me crazy if u want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Im fine with Ehlers. Pick anyone BUT Virtanen. Bust im calling it. Call me crazy if u want. I'm not crazy about Virtanen but I don't think he'll be a bust. He's only 17. Lots of time for improvement. His floor is 3rd line imo. That's not terrbile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I'm not crazy about Virtanen but I don't think he'll be a bust. He's only 17. Lots of time for improvement. His floor is 3rd line imo. That's not terrbile... Sure, its not terrible. Its terrible for a 6th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynideSnipe Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Ehlers. Pick Ehlers. Draft Ehlers. Actually anyone but Nylander... Nylander has the highest ceiling out of anyone in the draft, and he also has the most outstanding offensive capability and talent out of anyone in the draft, so I don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 As I said, I hope we draft all of them I'm just really hoping one of our previous 1st rounders will finally crack the lineup and play himself into the hearts of Vancouver. I don't want an Edmonton situation where all the youngsters are forced into play too fast. But I also can't wait for Horvat, Shinkaruk, Gaunce, Cassels, Jensen & even late late late pick Tömmernes to play regular minutes. Even if we've had Kesler, Schneider, Schroeder, Hodgson, Edler, Grabner, Raymond and so on crack the lineup, I feel we haven't been treated with a quality rookie performance in a long long time. Calder worthy stuff I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Nylander has the highest ceiling out of anyone in the draft, and he also has the most outstanding offensive capability and talent out of anyone in the draft, so I don't know what you're talking about. First I'd argue that Ekblad, Reinhart or even Draistil have the highest ceiling in the draft. Offensively, yeah Nylander could have the highest ceiling. But Nylander also could be the biggest bust in the draft. Probably the most risky pick in the top 10. The risk with Ehlers, Virtanen, Ritchie, and Perlini is a lot less that with Nylander. I doubt Benning and the Canucks organizations take that risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynideSnipe Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 First I'd argue that Ekblad, Reinhart or even Draistil have the highest ceiling in the draft. Offensively, yeah Nylander could have the highest ceiling. But Nylander also could be the biggest bust in the draft. Probably the most risky pick in the top 10. The risk with Ehlers, Virtanen, Ritchie, and Perlini is a lot less that with Nylander. I doubt Benning and the Canucks organizations take that risk. Ehlers is just as much of a risk as Nylander. Why do you assume, just because he didn't play in the CHL, he has a higher risk of busting? Ritchie, has the highest chance of busting in the top 10. We will see, whether he was using his skill do well in the CHL.. or was he just using his size to advantage, and that advantage will be dinished once he gets to the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Ehlers is just as much of a risk as Nylander. Why do you assume, just because he didn't play in the CHL, he has a higher risk of busting? Ritchie, has the highest chance of busting in the top 10. We will see, whether he was using his skill do well in the CHL.. or was he just using his size to advantage, and that advantage will be dinished once he gets to the NHL. Nylander didn't even put up many points. How do we know he's as/more skilled than Ehlers or the others? As for Ritchie, he could bust and still turn into a 3rd or 4th line player who os still usefull. Where is Nylander going to fit if he busts. Understand my point? Just not comfortable risking the 6th overall pick on Nylander. Maybe if he's still available at 10th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerEpic5 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I think we will end up choosing between Dal Colle, Nylander, or Ehlers. Now out of those what would everybody rather have? If Dal Colle is available I think you go with him. I agree, MDC has the higher chance of falling out of the top 5 if Burke goes wild with his pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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