shanghai owey Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Ill make this brief, but I think Canucks are doing a terrific job at the moment, Our players now, our management, and our prospects; Organization as a whole. I think a major component however we are lacking however is a top centre. One that could help now, and make the second line a bigger threat, and one going forward to replace Hank after hes done. A top centre could vastly improve our team now, and the chances of winning the cup. As well, every good team has a clear Number 1 centre. Where as a major weakness of Toronto is in never having that #1 C. Vancouver- McCann, Jensen, 1st (or Bonino) Colorado- Duchene Duchene just turned 24, his goal high is 27 so far, has been over 20 goals 3 times so far and had 70 points in 71 games last season. This guy is a game breaker, with tons of speed, passion, and playmaking ability. A true number 1 centre and a good Canadian boy. Analysis say his playing style is comparable to Steve Yzerman. This propels our rebuild on the fly as it cuts down the time waiting for our number 1 centre, and gives no question marks, with having one being able to take over Hank, with Bo hopefully filling the second line role. Duchene is 5'11 195 which is okay size, but with the likes of a physically dominant fast skating Virtanen on his wing, this would compliment his up-tempo play and Virtanen's presence would be noticed on the ice when a player decides to take a run at Duchene. Why Colorado may do this: Colorado already has some future stars in - McKinnon, Landeskog, O'Riley, Barrie. With the Likes of Eric Johnson too, and McKinnon being able to take over that top centre spot, Colorado will not be able to sign all these players due to cap space and one will have to be left out. Our package is fair as it gives them a potential very valuable 200foot centre, a cheaper option to second line centre spot, if ROR doesn't work and is too expensive to keep in the future. Jensen who could turn into a top 6 player with goal scoring ability, size and speed. As well a first, Or possibly Bonino, as this allows them to have a good player with defensive and offensive abilities now, and cheap enough in return of Duchene, to resign ROR. Also Canucks do not have a desire for Bonino has Hank-Duchene-Bo would be our centres. Duchene is not having a great season among other Colorado players at the moment perhaps making him a more expendable option. This puts us in a terrific spot going forward, having that number 1 C that we will have to get one way or another, McCann will be a great player, but would rather have a sure number 1 C now, and be able to make adjustments from there. Duchene is same size as crosby and Giroux in comparison. Now Future Daniel- Hank- Kassian Top LW-Duchene-Virtanen Mathias-Duchene-Vrbata Baertschi-Horvat-Kassian Hansen-Horvat-Burrows Gaunce-Cassels-Kennins -(Kassian, Vrbata, Burrows all interchangeable) -Kind of similar to boston model (which Benning may have in mind), number 1 centre in krejci who is not a physical force and is protected by his strong wingers, and Bergeron who is a solid player, and a leader locking down the second line role with some offensive flair on his left wing Marchand, and we would also have the likes of Kassian adding strength and intimidation to our top 6. -On a separate subject Defence would then have to be of upmost priority going forward as we have our top 6 young forwards for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Let me clarify. Getting a top line scorer who is under 24 years old and is probably one of the best players on his team is going to take more than a couple of prospects and a pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 really? i agree, the price not be perfect but thats what this trade is about i would go 20151st bonino jensen shinkaruk for dechene 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Ha! No. Duchene grew up an Avs fan, loves being in Denver, and even Roy thinks he's the heart and soul of the team. We'll keep him. Thanks. That package isn't remotely enticing and you're not getting a young top line C (despite the down year) locked up to a good long term contract for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanghai owey Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 baud, Duchene is a great C, no doubt, very valuable. But looking ahead, you have a future super star C who at 4 years younger, almost tied Duchenes High in points set last year. Its in this idea that we could try and pry away one of their top Centres. As they will have 3 in ROR too. Hopeful thinking yes, but each of these centres will eventually be commanding upwards of 6 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanghai owey Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Ha! No. Duchene grew up an Avs fan, loves being in Denver, and even Roy thinks he's the heart and soul of the team. We'll keep him. Thanks. That package isn't remotely enticing and you're not getting a young top line C (despite the down year) locked up to a good long term contract for that. may not be necessarily enticing. But soon ur team will have to face the realities that you cannot afford all these good young players from drafting high after being bad for so many years under the current cap space. So it will be more a business move, where you guys get 3 good components, whilst still having two top nhl centres. Also being a canadian boy, playing in one of the best hockey markets in canada would probably mean something to Duchene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Heck to the N-O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 may not be necessarily enticing. But soon ur team will have to face the realities that you cannot afford all these good young players from drafting high after being bad for so many years under the current cap space. So it will be more a business move, where you guys get 3 good components, whilst still having two top nhl centres. Also being a canadian boy, playing in one of the best hockey markets in canada would probably mean something to Duchene I don't know how I can make this any clearer: Duchene is going nowhere. Of everyone on the team he's the most likely to retire a career Av. ROR is going to cost more than Dutchy and is probably gone this summer. The only way Duchene goes anywhere is if we win the lottery. Even then it will have to be a Duchene package for a guy like OEL. Not a bunch of mediocre to good futures that do absolutely nothing to address our needs. You will not find a team anywhere that's going to give you a young 1st line C for a mediocre prospect whose played the last two years at .5 ppg in the AHL, a good prospect who is still years off being a 1/2 C, and a mid first (or a mediocre 2nd line C). Especially when that package does nothing to address their actual needs and does not help them make the playoffs next year. If you want a 1st line C then do what every team has to and draft one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanghai owey Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 I don't know how I can make this any clearer: Duchene is going nowhere. Of everyone on the team he's the most likely to retire a career Av. ROR is going to cost more than Dutchy and is probably gone this summer. The only way Duchene goes anywhere is if we win the lottery. Even then it will have to be a Duchene package for a guy like OEL. Not a bunch of mediocre to good futures that do absolutely nothing to address our needs. You will not find a team anywhere that's going to give you a young 1st line C for a mediocre prospect whose played the last two years at .5 ppg in the AHL, a good prospect who is still years off being a 1/2 C, and a mid first (or a mediocre 2nd line C). Especially when that package does nothing to address their actual needs and does not help them make the playoffs next year. If you want a 1st line C then do what every team has to and draft one. Okay was just a suggestion. You think ROR will be the one to leave which is prob most likely, very well done! I was just playing with the chance that instead Colorado thinks Mckinnon can fill the top line spot and want to keep ROR due to his hard work and sound Play as a second line centre and in turn Duchene is the one who would be the one left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 McCann is not getting traded. Neither are Horvat or Virtanen. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I don't know how I can make this any clearer: Duchene is going nowhere. Of everyone on the team he's the most likely to retire a career Av. ROR is going to cost more than Dutchy and is probably gone this summer. The only way Duchene goes anywhere is if we win the lottery. Even then it will have to be a Duchene package for a guy like OEL. Not a bunch of mediocre to good futures that do absolutely nothing to address our needs. You will not find a team anywhere that's going to give you a young 1st line C for a mediocre prospect whose played the last two years at .5 ppg in the AHL, a good prospect who is still years off being a 1/2 C, and a mid first (or a mediocre 2nd line C). Especially when that package does nothing to address their actual needs and does not help them make the playoffs next year. If you want a 1st line C then do what every team has to and draft one. Okay, Okay, relax. Your point is pretty valid with Duchesne. Just an opinion. ROR, with his 1 season and roughly 10 games of time left on his contract... Has nowhere remotely close to the value of Duchesne who is both better, and an ongoing asset a team can retain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 ^ I agree with him, having a MacKinnon/Duchene one two punch at center would be great for the Avs, and it's no secret they've been looking to move ROR. Only a massive overpayment would convince them of the alternate route, and even then it'd be a stretch. We'd be more likely to be able to pry Johansen from Columbus (not for that package though now that he's signed) than we would Duchene from Colorado. McCann is not getting traded. Neither are Horvat or Virtanen. Period. So if a 1st line center like Duchene was actually available, would wouldn't trade McCann? Or even Horvat or Virtanen? Uh, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 We'd probably have to start with Edler+ or Hammer+Horvat+ Anyone see a problem with that? They have the same weakness as the Canucks do: weaker left-side D-men. Barrie and Johnson are both right-side guys so it'd be tough for us to give assets up when we're in need of those same assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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