Palestinian Toddler and Family Burned Alive in Suspected "Price Tag" Attack in West Bank

[Maniwaki Canuck]

^^^^ This.

That's what some people here are missing.

This isn't 1 sided.

Both are to blame.

Also, some are ticked off at the whole mess and have their own plans (note how the key here is they don't care about either side and they want all that land to be Muslim only):

"The flagbearer of Jihad to liberate Jerusalem."

This is how the blurb of "Palestine," a new book, published by Islamic Revolution Editions last week in Tehran, identifies the author.

The author is "Grand Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Husseini Khamenei," the "Supreme Guide" of the Islamic Republic in Iran, a man whose fatwa has been recognized by U.S. President Barack Obama as having the force of law.

Edited by Saeed Solh-Mirzai, the 416-page book has received approval from Khamenei's office and is thus the most authoritative document regarding his position on the issue.

Khamenei makes his position clear from the start: Israel has no right to exist as a state.

He uses three words. One is "nabudi" which means "annihilation". The other is "imha" which means "fading out," and, finally, there is "zaval" meaning "effacement."

Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamenei (center), is shown meeting in May 2014 with Iran's military chief of staff and the commanders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. (Image source: IRNA)

Khamenei claims that his strategy for the destruction of Israel is not based on anti-Semitism, which he describes as a European phenomenon.

His position is based on "well-established Islamic principles", he claims.

One such is that a land that falls under Muslim rule, even briefly, can never again be ceded to non-Muslims. What matters in Islam is control of a land's government, even if the majority of inhabitants are non-Muslims. Khomeinists are not alone in this belief.

Dozens of maps circulate in the Muslim world, showing the extent of Muslim territories lost to the infidel that must be recovered. These include large parts of Russia and Europe, almost a third of China, the whole of India and parts of the Philippines and Thailand.

However, according to Khamenei, Israel, which he labels as "adou" and "doshman," meaning "enemy" and "foe," is a special case for three reasons. The first is that it is a loyal "ally of the American Great Satan" and a key element in its "evil scheme" to dominate "the heartland of theUmmah."

The second reason is that Israel has waged war on Muslims on a number of occasions, thus becoming a "hostile infidel" ("kaffir al-harbi").

Finally, Israel is a special case because it occupies Jerusalem, which Khamenei describes as "Islam's third Holy City." He intimates that one of his "most cherished wishes" is to one day pray in Jerusalem.

Khamenei insist that he is not recommending "classical wars" to wipe Israel off the map. Nor does he want to "massacre the Jews." What he recommends is a long period of low-intensity warfare designed to make life unpleasant if not impossible for a majority of Israeli Jews so that they leave the country.

His calculation is based on the assumption that large numbers of Israelis have dual-nationality and would prefer emigration to the United States or Europe to daily threats of death.

Khamenei makes no reference to Iran's nuclear program. But the subtext is that a nuclear-armed Iran would make Israel think twice before trying to counter Khamenei's strategy by taking military action against the Islamic Republic.

In Khamenei's analysis, once the cost of staying in Israel has become too high for many Jews, Western powers, notably the U.S., which has supported the Jewish state for decades, might decide that the cost of doing so is higher than possible benefits.

Thanks to President Obama, the U.S. has already distanced itself from Israel to a degree unimaginable a decade ago.

Khamenei counts on what he sees as "Israel fatigue." The international community would start looking for what he calls "a practical and logical mechanism" to end the old conflict.

Khamenei's "practical and logical mechanism" excludes the two-state formula in any form.

"The solution is a one-state formula," he declares. That state, to be called Palestine, would be under Muslim rule but would allow non-Muslims, including some Israeli Jews who could prove "genuine roots" in the region, to stay as "protected minorities."

Under Khamenei's scheme, Israel plus the West Bank and Gaza would revert to the United Nations' mandate for a brief period during which a referendum would be held to create the new state of Palestine.

All Palestinians and their descendants, wherever they are, would be able to vote, while Jews "who have come from other places" would be excluded.

Khamenei does not mention any figures for possible voters in his dream referendum. But studies by the Foreign Ministry in Tehran suggest that at least eight million Palestinians across the globe would be able to vote, against 2.2 million Jews "acceptable" as future second-class citizens of the new Palestine. Thus, the "Supreme Guide" is certain of the results of his proposed referendum.

He does not make clear whether the Kingdom of Jordan, which is located in 80 percent of historic Palestine, would be included in his one-state scheme. However, a majority of Jordanians, who are of Palestinian extraction, would be able to vote in the referendum and, logically, become citizens of the new Palestine.

Khamenei boasts about the success of his plans to make life impossible for Israelis through terror attacks from Lebanon and Gaza. His latest scheme is to recruit "fighters" in the West Bank to set-up Hezbollah-style units.

"We have intervened in anti-Israel matters, and it brought victory in the 33-day war by Hezbollah against Israel in 2006 and in the 22-day war between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip," he boasts.

Khamenei describes Israel as "a cancerous tumor" whose elimination would mean that "the West's hegemony and threats will be discredited" in the Middle East. In its place, he boasts, "the hegemony of Iran will be promoted."

Khamenei's book also deals with the Holocaust, which he regards either as "a propaganda ploy" or a disputed claim. "If there was such a thing," he writes, "we don't know why it happened and how."

Khamenei has been in contact with professional Holocaust deniers since the 1990s. In 2000, he invited Swiss Holocaust-denier Jürgen Graf to Tehran and received him in private audiences. French Holocaust-denier Roger Garaudy, a Stalinist who converted to Islam, was also feted in Tehran as "Europe's' greatest living philosopher."

It was with Khamenei's support that former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad set up a "Holocaust-research center" led by Muhammad-Ali Ramin, an Iranian functionary with links to German neo-Nazis who also organized annual "End of Israel" seminars.

Despite efforts to disguise his hatred of Israel in Islamic terms, the book makes it clear that Khamenei is more influenced by Western-style anti-Semitism than by classical Islam's checkered relations with Jews.

His argument about territories becoming "irrevocably Islamic" does not wash, if only because of its inconsistency. He has nothing to say about vast chunks of former Islamic territory, including some that belonged to Iran for millennia, now under Russian rule.

Nor is he ready to embark on Jihad to drive the Chinese out of Xinjiang, a Muslim khanate until the late 1940s.

Israel, which in terms of territory accounts for one per cent of Saudi Arabia, is a very small fry.

Khamenei's shedding of tears for "the sufferings of Palestinian Muslims" are also unconvincing. To start with, not all Palestinians are Muslims. And, if it were only Muslim sufferers who deserved sympathy, why doesn't the "Supreme Guide" beat his chest about the Burmese Rohingya and the Chechens massacred and enchained by Vladimir Putin, not to mention Muslims daily killed by fellow-Muslims across the globe?

At no point in these 416 pages does Khamenei even mention the need to take into account the views of either Israelis or Palestinians regarding his miracle recipe. What if Palestinians and Israelis wanted a two-state solution?

What if they chose to sort out their problems through negotiation and compromise rather than the "wiping-off-the-map" scheme of he proposes?

Khamenei reveals his ignorance of Islamic traditions when he designates Jerusalem as "our holy city." As a student of Islamic theology, he should know that "holy city" and "holy land" are Christian concepts that have no place in Islam.

In Islam, the adjective "holy" is reserved only for Allah and cannot apply to anything or anyone else. The Koran itself is labeled "al-Majid" (Glorious) and is not a holy book as is the Bible for the Christians.

The "Supreme Guide" should know that Mecca is designated as "al-Mukarramah" (the Generous) and Medina as "al-Munawwarah" (the Enlightened). Even the Shi'ite shrine cities of Iraq are not labeled "muqqaddas" (holy). Najaf is designated as "al-Ashraf" (the Most Noble) and Karbala as "al-Mualla" (the Sublime).

In the early days of his mission, the Prophet Muhammad toyed with the idea of making Jerusalem the focal point of prayers for Islam. He soon abandoned the idea and adopted his hometown of Mecca, where the black cube (kaabah) had been a magnet for pilgrims for centuries before Islam. For that reason, some classical Muslim writers refer to Jerusalem as "the discarded one" (al-yarmiyah) like a first wife who is replaced by a new favorite. In the 11^thcentury, the Shiite Fatimid Caliph, Al-Hakim, even ordered the destruction of "discarded" Jerusalem.

The Israel-Palestine issue is not a religious one. It is a political conflict about territory, borders, sharing of water resources and security. Those who, like Khamenei, try to inject a dose of religious enmity into this already complex cocktail deserve little sympathy.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6263/khamenei-israel-palestine

You're full of it. In Arabic, Jerusalem is called El-Quds, which is cognate with Qaddish in Hebrew and means 'holy': check out Wikipedia if you'd like an independent source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Jerusalem

Any more zio-lessons in Muslim theology you'd like to give us?

[Heretic]

You're full of it. In Arabic, Jerusalem is called El-Quds, which is cognate with Qaddish in Hebrew and means 'holy': check out Wikipedia if you'd like an independent source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Jerusalem

Any more zio-lessons in Muslim theology you'd like to give us?

Here, get educated on the full history instead of cherry picking:

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000635

[Maniwaki Canuck]

Here, get educated on the full history instead of cherry picking:

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000635

Get educated? You want to know why Jerusalem is holy in all 3 of the desert monotheisms? It's what's inside the Dome of the Rock, the supposed site of Abraham's would-be sacrifice. You don't know squat.b

[Heretic]

Get educated? You want to know why Jerusalem is holy in all 3 of the desert monotheisms? It's what's inside the Dome of the Rock, the supposed site of Abraham's would-be sacrifice. You don't know squat.b

I....don't....even....

Seriously...WTH are you on about?

[WHL rocks]

Its a shame that even CDC turns this horrendous and cowardly attack into a political situation. Each party digging in to defend their respective side.

A child being burned alive? how did the world react when ISIS burned to death a pilot. At least ISIS had an excuse that the pilot was bombing their area killing their fighters and innocent civilians, What are the extremist jews claiming this 18 month old baby did? I've been watching Wolf on CNN for half hour and haven't seen this news even reported yet. If this was a jewish child coverage would be non stop and the Israeli F16 and tomahawk missiles would be bombing Gaza by now. What a shame.

If the politicians in the West, particularly in the US weren't bought and paid for like cheap prostitutes, this issue would have been solved decades ago. Sadly I don't see this issue being resolved for decades more.

[WHL rocks]

This is how media propaganda works.

At 11 am

CNN Brooke Baldwin lead story was Clinton healthy after concussion a cpl of years ago.

FOX led with Poll shows Clinton unfavorable rating at 57%

CNNI led with Cecil lion

MSNBC led with ... I can't remember, another worthless story.

BBC Ebola vaccine

Al Jazeera with this child being burned alive

If this child was jewish and the attack was committed by Palestinians how would most of you think the above media outlets started their shows. And how would CDC members that are making posts to defend their respective sides be reacting? I bet it would have all been the opposite of what it is.

[Positive Canuck]

Israel is disgusting.

I made a point of following there heinous assault on Palestinian woman and children last year while they were targeting schools and UN Refugee shelters.

Just vile.

Jews turning into nazis.

Brutal.

Pathetic that our clown PM is a puppet of Netanyahu + Co.

[Heretic]

Israel is disgusting.

I made a point of following there heinous assault on Palestinian woman and children last year while they were targeting schools and UN Refugee shelters.

Just vile.

Jews turning into nazis.

Brutal.

Pathetic that our clown PM is a puppet of Netanyahu + Co.

This is what gets my goat.

If another person of a different race/religion commits a heinous crime, it's "not all ______s are bad" (edit - which is the way it should be)

When the person is of Jewish descent, it's "Israel is disgusting - kill all Jews".

[Jägermeister]

This is what gets my goat.

If another person of a different race/religion commits a heinous crime, it's "not all ______s are bad" (edit - which is the way it should be)

When the person is of Jewish descent, it's "Israel is disgusting - kill all Jews".

You know disliking the Israeli government and disliking Jewish people can be two completely different things right?

[taxi]

This is what gets my goat.

If another person of a different race/religion commits a heinous crime, it's "not all ______s are bad" (edit - which is the way it should be)

When the person is of Jewish descent, it's "Israel is disgusting - kill all Jews".

I think this is a great point.

To add to this, I don't think that Palestinians or Israelis are inherently worse than the other. They're both capable of horrible acts, which this incident shows.

What will potentially separate this from the Palestinian act of terror will be how the government reacts. So far Netanyahu has branded this guy a terrorist and pledged to bring him to justice. If he follows through on this, it will be a marked departure from the reaction of the Palestinian authorities thus far. If the roles were reversed, Hamas or the PA would have labelled this guy a "martyr" or "freedom fighter", held parades, hidden him from authorities, given him money and weapons, etc...

[Heretic]

You know disliking the Israeli government and disliking Jewish people can be two completely different things right?

IKR.

But I don't see a lot of peeps here that separate them.

[TOMapleLaughs]

This is how media propaganda works.

At 11 am

CNN Brooke Baldwin lead story was Clinton healthy after concussion a cpl of years ago.

FOX led with Poll shows Clinton unfavorable rating at 57%

CNNI led with Cecil lion

MSNBC led with ... I can't remember, another worthless story.

BBC Ebola vaccine

Al Jazeera with this child being burned alive

If this child was jewish and the attack was committed by Palestinians how would most of you think the above media outlets started their shows. And how would CDC members that are making posts to defend their respective sides be reacting? I bet it would have all been the opposite of what it is.

No, no, no

THIS is what Fox News is all about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyXkVHcAbhA

[Positive Canuck]

This is what gets my goat.

If another person of a different race/religion commits a heinous crime, it's "not all ______s are bad" (edit - which is the way it should be)

When the person is of Jewish descent, it's "Israel is disgusting - kill all Jews".

Kill all jews ?

now your making up words i didn't say ? hasbara troll standard operating procedure .

The mainstream media did not report most of the absolute heinous actions of the IDF last summer.

You would be outraged if you did some research.

Start by researching the Nabka in 1948 when Palestinians were ruthlessly attacked, massacred and driven from their homes into refugee camps by Zionist terror groups, and never allowed to return in violation of international law. This is the deeply flawed foundation upon which Israel was established and upon which its entire subsequent society remains structurally unsteady, morally corrupt, legally culpable, and psychologically damaged. Israel has inevitably suffered from a "spoiled identity" (a concept of sociologist Erving Goffman) against which it defends by outright lies, hysterical accusations of "anti-Semitism" and other transparent defense mechanisms, and the consequences to its Palestinian victims remain tragic and ruinous.

[Positive Canuck]

MOSSAD job.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

[Positive Canuck]

"I have never before watched soldiers (referring to Israeli) entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport.” American journalist Chris Hedges.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/29/373194/childkilling-sociopaths-of-israel/

[Heretic]

Kill all jews ?

now your making up words i didn't say ? hasbara troll standard operating procedure .

The mainstream media did not report most of the absolute heinous actions of the IDF last summer.

You would be outraged if you did some research.

Start by researching the Nabka in 1948 when Palestinians were ruthlessly attacked, massacred and driven from their homes into refugee camps by Zionist terror groups, and never allowed to return in violation of international law. This is the deeply flawed foundation upon which Israel was established and upon which its entire subsequent society remains structurally unsteady, morally corrupt, legally culpable, and psychologically damaged. Israel has inevitably suffered from a "spoiled identity" (a concept of sociologist Erving Goffman) against which it defends by outright lies, hysterical accusations of "anti-Semitism" and other transparent defense mechanisms, and the consequences to its Palestinian victims remain tragic and ruinous.

Now you're calling me a troll?

I never said you did. Read before you write.

[Heretic]

"I have never before watched soldiers (referring to Israeli) entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport.” American journalist Chris Hedges.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/07/29/373194/childkilling-sociopaths-of-israel/

I'm not denying that at all - like I said - I read the history - did you?

Are you denying what they teach Palestinian kids in school?

Like I said, neither side is right in this conflict nor guilt free.

[Mr.DirtyDangles]

Israel is disgusting.

I made a point of following there heinous assault on Palestinian woman and children last year while they were targeting schools and UN Refugee shelters.

Just vile.

Jews turning into nazis.

Brutal.

Pathetic that our clown PM is a puppet of Netanyahu + Co.

Funny you mention that. I wonder how many people know about the history of the Ashkenazi ? No one wants to believe the truth but it is staring us right in the face and has been for decades.

The utterly twisted minds of those that value wealth and power control the world, manipulating facts and history with zero regard for human life.

The history written for the masses is nowhere near the truth.

[Positive Canuck]

Funny you mention that. I wonder how many people know about the history of the Ashkenazi ? No one wants to believe the truth but it is staring us right in the face and has been for decades.

The utterly twisted minds of those that value wealth and power control the world, manipulating facts and history with zero regard for human life.

The history written for the masses is nowhere near the truth.

seeing how they did 911 i agree, the history we've been brainwashed with is most likely complete and utter garbage.

[Heretic]

Wow hate much bro. The people have been indoctrinated by these twisted religious ideals that are exalted by the scum in power that force the policies and pass the orders and promote the ideals of hate against the Palestinians. All of us are victims of the POS waste of skin politicians just lining their pockets with blood money.

Exactly - for the same thing is happening in schools in Palestine. Kids being taught to hate Jews.

Funny you mention that. I wonder how many people know about the history of the Ashkenazi ? No one wants to believe the truth but it is staring us right in the face and has been for decades.

The utterly twisted minds of those that value wealth and power control the world, manipulating facts and history with zero regard for human life.

The history written for the masses is nowhere near the truth.

Remember the story about Israelis killing 4 boys on the beach in Gaza?

Turns out that may not be true - yes, the boys were killed - but supposedly by Hamas.

Fixed link:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/10/10/claim-the-four-palestinian-boys-killed-on-the-beach-were-not-blown-up-by-israel-but-murdered-by-hamas/

Who knows what the truth really is though...