Gstank29 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Alex Edler: Coming off what was a horrendous 2013-2014 seasons, Edler proved why he is consider of the Canucks best defenseman last year. Edler finished the year with a solid 31 points in 74 games but it was his production in the last 2 months of the season that makes me believe he will be a 40-45 point defenseman next year. Over the last 2 months of the season, Edler almost doubled his point total with 14 points in his last 19 games; this upward projection near the end of the season leaves me feeling optimistic about Edler going into the 2015-2016 season. If there is one stat that I found shocking it was his 72 Giveaways, that is a lot of giveaways for any defenseman who is supposedly a top pairing defense man. Projection: 10-12 goals 40-45 points (1PP, 1PK, Top pairing) Chris Tanev: Arguably the Canucks best defenseman last year at the age of 25, there is still a lot of room for growth in Tanev game. His 2 goals is probably an accurate representation of his shot, but I believe that given more PP time Tanev could reach 5 goals and 25-30 points. Tanev's even strength point totals are better than Edlers and I believe that he has the instincts to be able to be a bit better offensively than Marc Andre Vlasic/Dan Hamhuis (25ish points 5ish goals). Except Tanev to get a more increased offensive role next year. Projection: 5 goals 25-30 points (1PK, 2nd/1st PP, Top pairing) Dan Hamhuis: A pending UFA at the end of the year, Hamhuis is bound to have somewhat of a comeback year. Coming off a strong WC where he had 6 assists in 10 games for Canada, he still seems to have the offensive instincts that show him put up 37 points in the 2011-2012 season. (Granted he was playing with the tournaments top scoring Defenseman and was on the best team in the tournament) Combined with the fact that had had 17 points in his last 39 games (after he returned from his Injury) and I believe a 30 points season isn't out of the question at all. Projection 4-6 goals 28-32 points (2nd PP, 1st/2nd PK, 2nd pairing) Lucas Sbisa: CDCs favorite Whipping boy during the season, Sbisa had fewer turnovers than Tanev and Edler (46). Personally I saw a lot of growth in Sbisa games from Feb to the end of the season and the stats support that growth. Over the last 3 months of the season Sbisa had 7 points and was a +3, which was 66% of his offence. Sbisa was also our only defenseman to record 125+ Hits and Block shots. Most of the hate for Sbisa came from Dec-Jan when he was -12 and recorded a 0 points, but the progression that he showed during the end of the season was promising for a guy who is still only 25 years old. Projection 4-6 goals 18-22 points 150+ hits and Block Shots (2nd PK 2nd pairing) Matt Bartkowski: I don't really have much to go off of for Bartkowski, but his 88 hits in 47 games seems to add a much needed physical presence on the back end. His 67 shots in 47 games also shows that he knows how to get the puck on net, something the Canucks were horrible at last season. His point totals aren't too impressive but 15 points is probably an acceptable projection for him. Projection 3-4 goals, 15-18 points, 140ish hits (3rd pairing) Yannick Weber: Coming off a season where he shot the puck like Shea Weber, Yannick Weber showed that he was more than just a PP specialist. His 11 goals and 20 points in 65 games bold well for the 26 year old, but it was his improvement without the puck the have many fans wondering if he could be a NHL regular. Personally I see him becoming a solid 5th defense man if everything goes well for him this season and we might see a little more offensive this year. Projection 8-10 goals 20-25 points (3rd pairing 1st/2nd PP) Interesting fact: he could get 100 hits and 100 Block shots if he plays a full season next year Frank Corrado: The first thing I notice when looking at Frank Corrado is his lower turnover rate (5 in 10 games) and his block shot and hit totals. If you project it over an 82 game season he projects to be get 100+ in both the hits and block shots categories. The other thing I noticed was his goal totals in the AHL the last two season, Corrado seems to have the potential to pot 10-12 goals during his prime which is something the Canucks really did lack in last season. Overall I think Benning made the right decision keeping Corrado over Clendening because I see Corrado as a top 4 defenseman and Clendening as a Weber type (good 5th defenseman) during their prime. Andrey Pedan: Probably a half season or so from making the Canucks, Pedan is my definition of a "5 tool" defenseman. He can Skate, rip the puck, play a physical game, fight, and play a solid defensive game. Making huge strides in Utica since coming over for the Islanders, Pedan is looking like solid prospect who I would hope gets some games later on in the season IF we are not in a playoff spot. Projection: Sbisa with more or a mean streak and a better shot. Ben Hutton: My favorite defensive prospect, I honestly believe Hutton will be a top 4 defenseman in the NHL with in the next 2 season. Playing on a horrible Maine team last year, Hutton still had a great second half of the season that show him almost match his .66 PPG he had in 2013-2014 and finished the season with a respectable 21 points. Playing on one of the worst team in one of the strongest divisions in collage hockey (Hockey East) also bolds well for Hutton development because he was matched up against some of the best collage talent in the country on a game-to-game bases (BU, BC, Notre Dame, are just a few of the powerhouse teams in H-east). I would like to see Hutton get 1st/2nd PP time and 2nd pairing minutes in Utica with a more increase role as the season progresses. Ryan Miller: 29 wins in 45 games is nothing to sneeze at despite the consistent Miller bashing that goes on here. Miller definitely stole us some games last year but when he stunk he really did stink. I would accept somewhat of a more consistent year, considering that his wife isn't pregnant (somewhat of a distraction) and that over his career he is good for a solid 32-35 wins, .916% and a GAA of about 2.5. Projection 65-70 games 35-38 wins .917% 2.5GAA Jacob Markstrom: Based on my Miller projections, Markstrome is slated for about 12-17 starts, which he would have to win about 10-12 of them for us to be a playoff team. Markstrom is a big goalie that in my eyes could be a #1 but will have to work on his lateral movement and rebound control in order to fulfill that potential. I would accept him to be a backup for 2 years before taking over the starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmode33 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 You should have your parents proofread your next essay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I expect Markstrom to play about 20-25 games. Would love to see Hutton have a good showing at camp too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 You should have your parents proofread your next essay. Probably but I honestly couldn't care less right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuongo Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Matt Bartkowski Projection 3-4 goals, 15-18 points, 140ish hits (3rd pairing) In 131 NHL games he hasn't scored a goal. And you project him to triple + it...? What exactly is the point of you 'projecting' these without anything to back it up logically. You're just guessing lol We can all guess point totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 Matt Bartkowski Projection 3-4 goals, 15-18 points, 140ish hits (3rd pairing) In 131 NHL games he hasn't scored a goal. And you project him to triple + it...? What exactly is the point of you 'projecting' these without anything to back it up logically. You're just guessing lol We can all guess point totals. It's not like i'm pulling the numbers out of mid air. previous career totals, projections based on age and comparable player types, age any many other things were considered while making this thread. As for Bartkowski you really think that his previous goal totals justify him not scoring any goals? He gets the puck on net about 1.5 shots a game, some goals are bound to go in, just look at Tanev who has less shots over the course of the whole season, but still managed to pot 2 goals But you obviously didn't take the time to read the write ups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popinjay Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What exactly is the point of you 'projecting' these What exactly is the point of you posting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 d-men won't get that many points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 My projections: Edler: 6 goals 44 points Tanev: 2 goals 31 points Hamhuis: 5 goals 27 points Corrado: 6 goals 23 points Sbisa: 4 goals 27 points Weber: 13 goals 35 points Bartkowski: 2 goals 19 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is a good summary IMO G'stank! I am really curious where Bartkowski will play this year? By default, I would think he is the 7th D man if you go by a left D depth chart of Edler, Hamhuis, Sbias, Bart. But could see him playing top 4 on his off side; Edler / Tanev Hamhuis / Bart Sbisa / Corrado Weber With Weber and Bart trading places for home and away games (Weber in when we have match up control on home ice?). I think steady 3rd pair minutes for Corrado is a great place for a two way glue D man. I like Corrado. Good D presence, gap control, excellent speed to chase down pucks, not particularly big but plays hard. He has under the radar (much like Hamhuis) but not top end offensive skills as well. He can shoot and has reasonable ability to think quickly and make plays. All in all, less creative, but more steady than Weber. I think he will play more games, but get less minutes when in than Weber as our everyday third pairing RHD. The one thing I disagree with is why would we give Tanev PP time? The boy plays defense, blocks shots, makes a good pass. But he has never had a shot or creative playing with the puck on his CV. Lets be happy with that? Both Weber and to a lesser extent, Corrado, do. In my view when Weber is in, he will be on the first PP as our RHS. When not it will be probably a forward. Possibly Jake at the point (who has close out speed if he makes mistakes) but much more likely Vrbata. Vrbata on the point also gets Baertschi in on the 1st PP. And Corrado is out and out a better RHS for the second PP with better instincts for making plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What exactly is the point of you posting this. Why does TSN or THN produce pre-season projections of teams, and how their players fit? Actually > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is a good summary IMO G'stank! I am really curious where Bartkowski will play this year? By default, I would think he is the 7th D man if you go by a left D depth chart of Edler, Hamhuis, Sbias, Bart. But could see him playing top 4 on his off side; Edler / Tanev Hamhuis / Bart Sbisa / Corrado Weber With Weber and Bart trading places for home and away games (Weber in when we have match up control on home ice?). I think steady 3rd pair minutes for Corrado is a great place for a two way glue D man. I like Corrado. Good D presence, gap control, excellent speed to chase down pucks, not particularly big but plays hard. He has under the radar (much like Hamhuis) but not top end offensive skills as well. He can shoot and has reasonable ability to think quickly and make plays. All in all, less creative, but more steady than Weber. I think he will play more games, but get less minutes when in than Weber as our steady third pairing RHD. The one thing I disagree with is why would we give Tanev PP time? The boy plays defense, blocks shots, makes a good pass. But he has never had a shot or creative playing with the puck on his CV. Lets be happy with that? Both Weber and to a lesser extent, Corrado, do. In my view when Weber is in, he will be on the first PP as our RHS. When not it will be probably a forward. Possibly Jake at the point (who has close out speed if he makes mistakes) but much more likely Vrbata. Vrbata on the point also gets Baertschi in on the 1st PP. And Corrado is out and out a better RHS for the second PP with better instincts for making plays. 1st PP at home; Vrbata / Hank / Danny Weber / Edler On the road Baertschi / Hank / Danny Vrbata / Edler 2knd PP Baer / Horvat / Jake If Jake is not on the team or Baer on 1st PP, Sutter, Burrows, Higgins, Vey... Corrado / Hamhuis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasCanuck Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Probably but I honestly couldn't care less right now At the very least use a spell checker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 At the very least use a spell checker. Sadly there is not one on CDC. Laziness win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madwolf Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Use Chrome. It has a built in spell checker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 decent synopsis btw it's "bodes" well not bolds well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 decent synopsis btw it's "bodes" well not bolds well No need to be a smart arse about it, everyone makes mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 No need to be a smart arse about it, everyone makes mistakes couldn't resist, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This is total wishful thinking. These predictions are all best possible scenarios for each player. We aren't in 2011 anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This is total wishful thinking. These predictions are all best possible scenarios for each player. We aren't in 2011 anymore. No offence but this is kind of a dumb comment. No, we aren't in 2011 anymore. Nor do we have anywhere close to the same personel in our lineup. Sedin's, Burrows, Hansen, Higgins, Hamhuis, Edler. Pretty sure that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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