What the critics don't see

[smithers joe]

we are a fine lot...we all agree that everyone is entitled to their opinions, as long as their opinions are the same as ours...

[Toni Zamboni]

Does anybody remember the name of the CDC poster from back in the 2009 era that used to make huge long posts about the canucks and hockey etc? his posts were very well written and always contained loads of interesting facts that he would dig up...they were a joy to read and almost everyone around here would love to read his stuff....he would always get loads of upvotes for his posts...which could easily get 100 plus votes even back when there was still the minus button?

Anyhow, sorry for being off topic, but its been bugging me, i wonder whatever happened to him and i wish i could remember what his user name was?

anybody have any ideas?

[riffraff]

Does anybody remember the name of the CDC poster from back in the 2009 era that used to make huge long posts about the canucks and hockey etc? his posts were very well written and always contained loads of interesting facts that he would dig up...they were a joy to read and almost everyone around here would love to read his stuff....he would always get loads of upvotes for his posts...which could easily get 100 plus votes even back when there was still the minus button?

Anyhow, sorry for being off topic, but its been bugging me, i wonder whatever happened to him and i wish i could remember what his user name was?

anybody have any ideas?

Canucklelion.

[riffraff]

Does anybody remember the name of the CDC poster from back in the 2009 era that used to make huge long posts about the canucks and hockey etc? his posts were very well written and always contained loads of interesting facts that he would dig up...they were a joy to read and almost everyone around here would love to read his stuff....he would always get loads of upvotes for his posts...which could easily get 100 plus votes even back when there was still the minus button?

Anyhow, sorry for being off topic, but its been bugging me, i wonder whatever happened to him and i wish i could remember what his user name was?

anybody have any ideas?

Bodee

[scratchmb]

Good job Cdn

I don't have any beef with opinions, just the ideals of the wishful thinkers who imagine the improbable, and delight in doubting the decisions made by team organizations, as if they have some superpower to second guess or call them to the carpet. They don't, there is no authoritive structure that gives them any such power. If a team fill seats, and has a successful marketing scheme, the organization profits. Although the NHL comes around and whacks of a large slice of that profit to support the smaller market teams. Yet when said smaller market teams ask, Where is the money? Show me the money!" the NHL replies, "Uh, the league has had some unfortunate and unforseen costs and expendatures. Our doctors.....er.....I mean our accountants are more than happy to show you the books, we have nothing to hide."

Gotta love professional sports. Look, I enjoy any opinion that is a postive reflection of the development of the team. They need support, not mindless chatter from naysayers. Yet, you are right, I suppose they have as much right as anyone to voice their say, just as the same right they have to be a stupendous moron about it.

[Toni Zamboni]

Canucklelion.

its def not him, i totally remember him...he was the dude that coined the term "BXA" and had a real hate on for bieksa...although i do miss him to, his posts were usually pretty funny/witty even tho i didnt usually agree with him.

this poster im talking about was revered around here...i dont think he posts anymore cause he had a very distinct style and they were always huge long posts chalk full of fun facts....VC must remember who im talkin bout?

i would totally recognize his name if i saw it but i for the life of me cant remember it right now.

[scratchmb]

we are a fine lot...we all agree that everyone is entitled to their opinions, as long as their opinions are the same as ours...

Good point Joe, evidence of a totalitarian society disguised as a democracy. Where each fan is a self contained Benito Mussolini. Right on the nail. Joe, we are all self proclaimed dictators, and I have no shame in my admission. Yet, don't put me in the same department as Mussolini, he was the ultimate facist and would flip loyalties and sell out his mother in a second. I would never sink that low. I only pick on other fans and critics, but you're safe Joe.

[oldnews]

Does anybody remember the name of the CDC poster from back in the 2009 era that used to make huge long posts about the canucks and hockey etc? his posts were very well written and always contained loads of interesting facts that he would dig up...they were a joy to read and almost everyone around here would love to read his stuff....he would always get loads of upvotes for his posts...which could easily get 100 plus votes even back when there was still the minus button?

Anyhow, sorry for being off topic, but its been bugging me, i wonder whatever happened to him and i wish i could remember what his user name was?

anybody have any ideas?

nucknit

[scratchmb]

Alright, I'll spill. It is my pure intention to rile folks up and get them all pissy, then make them more pissy. It is my born right as a Canadian citizen to use what ever means to generate discord, hostility, and antagonism among the masses and shake them up. I will be relentless in satirical terrorism.

I will make you respect hockey and what makes it tick. I will point out things that have changed the face of the game for better or for worse. It is a completely different game than the old school style of the Original Six. Back then is wasn't about money, the equipment was crappy and there was little in the way of protection, no helmets, no face guards. when a fight broke out, it was a toe to toe bloodbath, and people were on their feet like Romans cheering while lions snacked on Christians. Those were days when both benches cleared and it was like watch the Royal Battle of television wrestling. The ref and the linesmen just skated to a nueteral corner of the rink until the player basically ran out of steam and conceded from their own exhaustion. Then the penalties were assessed and the game continued. There were no crybabies, no whiners. Certain players were a force to be reckoned with, because they ran in all gears. The made plays, worked the offense, fell back and worked the defense, hit along the boards, got called for penalties, created penalties, and would gladly mix it up. Gordie Howe of course was most famous for this, but he was not the only one. Pat Quinn was another, he may not have been the prolific snapper of the twine that Howe was, but even his own team mates were wary of him during practices. Off the ice a pure gentleman, on the ice, look out, one serious Irishman.

Oh yes, I am going to bore you with my long narratives and ramble like a mad man, but because of my passion. I can not just make simple one liners. It doesn't phase me if you find long posts offensive or boring. So, don't read them, I care not. Yet, if you want to throw zingers, I am not without my own repertoire of ammunition. I can sling with the best of them. I revel in it.

Cheers.

[5 decades and no cup]

Alright, I'll spill. It is my pure intention to rile folks up and get them all pissy, then make them more pissy. It is my born right as a Canadian citizen to use what ever means to generate discord, hostility, and antagonism among the masses and shake them up. I will be relentless in satirical terrorism.

I will make you respect hockey and what makes it tick. I will point out things that have changed the face of the game for better or for worse. It is a completely different game than the old school style of the Original Six. Back then is wasn't about money, the equipment was crappy and there was little in the way of protection, no helmets, no face guards. when a fight broke out, it was a toe to toe bloodbath, and people were on their feet like Romans cheering while lions snacked on Christians. Those were days when both benches cleared and it was like watch the Royal Battle of television wrestling. The ref and the linesmen just skated to a nueteral corner of the rink until the player basically ran out of steam and conceded from their own exhaustion. Then the penalties were assessed and the game continued. There were no crybabies, no whiners. Certain players were a force to be reckoned with, because they ran in all gears. The made plays, worked the offense, fell back and worked the defense, hit along the boards, got called for penalties, created penalties, and would gladly mix it up. Gordie Howe of course was most famous for this, but he was not the only one. Pat Quinn was another, he may not have been the prolific snapper of the twine that Howe was, but even his own team mates were wary of him during practices. Off the ice a pure gentleman, on the ice, look out, one serious Irishman.

Oh yes, I am going to bore you with my long narratives and ramble like a mad man, but because of my passion. I can not just make simple one liners. It doesn't phase me if you find long posts offensive or boring. So, don't read them, I care not. Yet, if you want to throw zingers, I am not without my own repertoire of ammunition. I can sling with the best of them. I revel in it.

Cheers.

Kind of full of yourself, aren't you?

[Patchoball Cannons]

Fans and media buffoons are the worst critics in the world. Fans feel it necessary to exercize their version of the knowledge of the game, as if they should be owners, general managers, president of operations, and the entire coaching staff. The media clowns merely reflect what they they think the fans want to hear, but is just their own blown ego of their version of the knowledge of the game....well as above.

Yet, neither the fans nor the media are the owners, general manager, nor the coach. Hockey is a game, The NHL is the elite professional version of that game, so that in mind, it is a business, and as a business they made the decisions. Money is an issue because of the cap system. The advantage is that the mega wealthy can't just go and buy a Stanley Cup by buying the best and paying attractive contracts including incentive bonuses. So it was not just a matter of winning awards, reach certain production levels and get cash. Well, Edmonton did just that with the purchase of Wayne Gretzky and surrounded him with players that reflected his intesity, energy, style of game, and enthusiasm.

The salary cap put an end to that. What was amazing was some wealthy owners were cheap and wouldn't put out the big bucks. These places oddly were the cities that sold the concept that players should be honored to play for an original six team and not for flashy cash. Funny thing as time passed so did the Stanley Cup as the brave new owners were sweeping up the better players.

Yet with the cap, it got worse, players didn't want to play for the small market teams, this made obvious by Eric Lindros who refused to play for the Quebec Nordiques, which was not only an insult and the death of one of Canada's most devoted hockey cities, it set an ideal that players could just walk away and still play in the league. Eric did not become "The Next" as was predicted, and the ironic thing is that the Nordiques who relocated in Denver Colorado as the Avalanche swept the Stanley Cup in their first year there. Then three years later one a second Lord Stanley's Grail. How many did Lindros win? Zero. He just complained about everything.

Now, the Vancouver Canucks are a unique organization, yes it's true they have not yet won the almight prize of professional hockey, but what they are is a powerful mainstay of the not only the Community of Vancouver, but the province of British Columbia. They have worked hard by employing talent behind the scenes, these include scouts, equipment specialists, medial staff, and trainers.

The Canucks have always been builders of the league. Many people of note have had a Vancouver Canucks connection.So, I aim to point out certain players and what they bring to the team.

Let me start with Jannik Hansen. He is not a super scoring machine, but if you pay attention, the goals he does make are often critical in changing the balance of the game and lifting the team to a win. The other aspect of Hansen is he is one pain in the ass. He is not that physical although he does his share of hitting, his talent is his mouth, he insults players as he skates by them just enough to irritate them, then before they can turn around, hansen is gone or out of reach. He can draw penalties, he is a force on the penalty kill and does some of his best scoring short handed. Alexandre Burrows is exactly the same school of nuisance factor as Hansen, but the only difference is Burrows is more of a presence on and off the ice. Hansen prefers to be the quiet sniper. Burrows is much more vocal and willing to get into the face of the referee in the name of justice, or just to buy time. Either way each player do things that are not easily obvious to the fans.

Now for one new player, I am sort of partial towards Adam Cracknell and I have hopes that he might blossom under the Canucks banner, he reminds me so much of Geoff Courtnall. Geoff was everywhere when he was on the ice, relentless, he battled in either end, he willing went into the corners to dig out pucks so that the defencemen could fall back and move players away from the net so the goaltender could have a clear area to do what he does best, stop shots. Cracknell is this kind of player. Yes, Cracknell has had some NHL experience but for the most part he has been a call up grunt from the minors and not given the confidence or green light from the coaching staff to be a mainstay of the team.

I am not going to be optomistic about Vancouver winning any championships this year. They are in a stage of regrowth and over the next few years, more of the veterans will be either traded or retired. It will take pure team effort and stamina to achieve success. I am more excited to see that take shape.

C'mon just look at rookie defenseman Ben Hutton who is old by rookie standards but has the face and build of a 15 year old youth. Yet his performance is like he owns the ice, and he takes responsibilities for his own mistakes. With a little more weight and seasoned training, he will be a player that one day will be deserving of a top contract.

That puts us back to the business of the profession, and why it is not just a game. No team can afford to keep every elite player that they draft or comes up in their organization. This is why trades of multiple players for a single player exists, get one star you can afford after releasing lesser contracts. The other side takes on the lesser contracts and either enters renogiation or trades them again. The modern concept is to sell players your city, the commitment of the fanbase, and the desire to win. Sell players on team rational. It must be something that money can not buy. The team needs players who want to be here. It does hurt to give up some players that we thought would retire here, but as I keep reminding you, business comes first, sentiment is only our burden to bare.

Cheers Scratchmb

Were you on LSD when you wrote this? Just a fragmented mixture of emotions and thoughts that don't fit together or make any coherent sense. Well done!

[Patchoball Cannons]

Fans and media buffoons are the worst critics in the world. Fans feel it necessary to exercize their version of the knowledge of the game, as if they should be owners, general managers, president of operations, and the entire coaching staff. The media clowns merely reflect what they they think the fans want to hear, but is just their own blown ego of their version of the knowledge of the game....well as above.

Yet, neither the fans nor the media are the owners, general manager, nor the coach. Hockey is a game, The NHL is the elite professional version of that game, so that in mind, it is a business, and as a business they made the decisions. Money is an issue because of the cap system. The advantage is that the mega wealthy can't just go and buy a Stanley Cup by buying the best and paying attractive contracts including incentive bonuses. So it was not just a matter of winning awards, reach certain production levels and get cash. Well, Edmonton did just that with the purchase of Wayne Gretzky and surrounded him with players that reflected his intesity, energy, style of game, and enthusiasm.

The salary cap put an end to that. What was amazing was some wealthy owners were cheap and wouldn't put out the big bucks. These places oddly were the cities that sold the concept that players should be honored to play for an original six team and not for flashy cash. Funny thing as time passed so did the Stanley Cup as the brave new owners were sweeping up the better players.

Yet with the cap, it got worse, players didn't want to play for the small market teams, this made obvious by Eric Lindros who refused to play for the Quebec Nordiques, which was not only an insult and the death of one of Canada's most devoted hockey cities, it set an ideal that players could just walk away and still play in the league. Eric did not become "The Next" as was predicted, and the ironic thing is that the Nordiques who relocated in Denver Colorado as the Avalanche swept the Stanley Cup in their first year there. Then three years later one a second Lord Stanley's Grail. How many did Lindros win? Zero. He just complained about everything.

Now, the Vancouver Canucks are a unique organization, yes it's true they have not yet won the almight prize of professional hockey, but what they are is a powerful mainstay of the not only the Community of Vancouver, but the province of British Columbia. They have worked hard by employing talent behind the scenes, these include scouts, equipment specialists, medial staff, and trainers.

The Canucks have always been builders of the league. Many people of note have had a Vancouver Canucks connection.So, I aim to point out certain players and what they bring to the team.

Let me start with Jannik Hansen. He is not a super scoring machine, but if you pay attention, the goals he does make are often critical in changing the balance of the game and lifting the team to a win. The other aspect of Hansen is he is one pain in the ass. He is not that physical although he does his share of hitting, his talent is his mouth, he insults players as he skates by them just enough to irritate them, then before they can turn around, hansen is gone or out of reach. He can draw penalties, he is a force on the penalty kill and does some of his best scoring short handed. Alexandre Burrows is exactly the same school of nuisance factor as Hansen, but the only difference is Burrows is more of a presence on and off the ice. Hansen prefers to be the quiet sniper. Burrows is much more vocal and willing to get into the face of the referee in the name of justice, or just to buy time. Either way each player do things that are not easily obvious to the fans.

Now for one new player, I am sort of partial towards Adam Cracknell and I have hopes that he might blossom under the Canucks banner, he reminds me so much of Geoff Courtnall. Geoff was everywhere when he was on the ice, relentless, he battled in either end, he willing went into the corners to dig out pucks so that the defencemen could fall back and move players away from the net so the goaltender could have a clear area to do what he does best, stop shots. Cracknell is this kind of player. Yes, Cracknell has had some NHL experience but for the most part he has been a call up grunt from the minors and not given the confidence or green light from the coaching staff to be a mainstay of the team.

I am not going to be optomistic about Vancouver winning any championships this year. They are in a stage of regrowth and over the next few years, more of the veterans will be either traded or retired. It will take pure team effort and stamina to achieve success. I am more excited to see that take shape.

C'mon just look at rookie defenseman Ben Hutton who is old by rookie standards but has the face and build of a 15 year old youth. Yet his performance is like he owns the ice, and he takes responsibilities for his own mistakes. With a little more weight and seasoned training, he will be a player that one day will be deserving of a top contract.

That puts us back to the business of the profession, and why it is not just a game. No team can afford to keep every elite player that they draft or comes up in their organization. This is why trades of multiple players for a single player exists, get one star you can afford after releasing lesser contracts. The other side takes on the lesser contracts and either enters renogiation or trades them again. The modern concept is to sell players your city, the commitment of the fanbase, and the desire to win. Sell players on team rational. It must be something that money can not buy. The team needs players who want to be here. It does hurt to give up some players that we thought would retire here, but as I keep reminding you, business comes first, sentiment is only our burden to bare.

Cheers Scratchmb

Best part of that Jargon was comparing Cracknell to Courtnall! only comparison I see is that they played minor hockey in Victoria and their last name names start with C and end in LL!

[Patchoball Cannons]

I actually read it, and thought it was a well-reasoned opinion. But then I am old school, from an era when reading and comprehension were valued, and thoughts were longer than 128 characters ,,, heck I remember the excitement when Tanti was aquired in trade, the angst when he was on a 7 game scoring drought, then the chemistry with Sundstrom.

But back to the OP - I agree with scratchmb (and a good summary by Canadian)

If you comprehended that jibberish, maybe it's because you both went to the same "special room" with your own "special teachers" back in your "old school"

[Patchoball Cannons]

The definition of Irony is: Someone who makes attempts to seem intelligent on a Canucks Forum! Hahah what a master!

[Patchoball Cannons]

Alright, I'll spill. It is my pure intention to rile folks up and get them all pissy, then make them more pissy. It is my born right as a Canadian citizen to use what ever means to generate discord, hostility, and antagonism among the masses and shake them up. I will be relentless in satirical terrorism.

I will make you respect hockey and what makes it tick. I will point out things that have changed the face of the game for better or for worse. It is a completely different game than the old school style of the Original Six. Back then is wasn't about money, the equipment was crappy and there was little in the way of protection, no helmets, no face guards. when a fight broke out, it was a toe to toe bloodbath, and people were on their feet like Romans cheering while lions snacked on Christians. Those were days when both benches cleared and it was like watch the Royal Battle of television wrestling. The ref and the linesmen just skated to a nueteral corner of the rink until the player basically ran out of steam and conceded from their own exhaustion. Then the penalties were assessed and the game continued. There were no crybabies, no whiners. Certain players were a force to be reckoned with, because they ran in all gears. The made plays, worked the offense, fell back and worked the defense, hit along the boards, got called for penalties, created penalties, and would gladly mix it up. Gordie Howe of course was most famous for this, but he was not the only one. Pat Quinn was another, he may not have been the prolific snapper of the twine that Howe was, but even his own team mates were wary of him during practices. Off the ice a pure gentleman, on the ice, look out, one serious Irishman.

Oh yes, I am going to bore you with my long narratives and ramble like a mad man, but because of my passion. I can not just make simple one liners. It doesn't phase me if you find long posts offensive or boring. So, don't read them, I care not. Yet, if you want to throw zingers, I am not without my own repertoire of ammunition. I can sling with the best of them. I revel in it.

Cheers.

At first I thought you were on drugs but after reading all of your posts again, I feel it's because your off them....Get back on your meds bro!

[Patchoball Cannons]

Kind of full of yourself, aren't you?

Delusions of grandeur!

[scratchmb]

Kind of full of yourself, aren't you?

So, why not? Because I'm not afraid to step up and let loose and not apologize for it? Because I am not one to be oppressed by inquistitve minions? Of course I am full of myself, who else would I be full of? Don't you think that you are asking a rather rhetorical question? Sorry, no Schizophrenia here, just me, myself and I, and three's a crowd, etcetera etcetera etcetera. There is just no room for me to full of anyone else. Where the hell do you get your logic from anyway?

[scratchmb]

At first I thought you were on drugs but after reading all of your posts again, I feel it's because your off them....Get back on your meds bro!

Ah I suspect you're little retort is an original piece of work. Wrong, it is highly over used and tiresome. Also, I have always been respectful in my regiment of medications, I got them from your doctor. I saw you there when you went in to take care of that "little" problem. Okay, that is just a slight, I don't know you or your doctor. Yet, the "little" problem is still of suspect.

[scratchmb]

Delusions of grandeur!

So, explain your clinical degree and profession as well as your thesis on your theory of delusions of grandeur, and be aware that you are being graded and no, Wikipedia is not an acceptable scapegoat. Then I will explain that my importance is not relevant, neither is my state of sanity or lack thereof. In all fairness, I am retired from my learned profession, but it was a profession held in high esteem and on the cutting edge of human sciences. It does not make me any better than anyone else, only better equipped with the tools of higher education, and the intesity of my profession which was not one that was projected in the spotlight as a career of wealth but 14 hour days of work and research and little glory. You can step on my toes all you desire, but it will have zero effect. I have no delusions, I have life experience, and they have provided the best tools. No, I am not better than you, or anyone, I just made the effort to reach the pinnacle of my goals, and if that does not give me the privilege to pound upon my chest, then pray tell. What must one do to fulfill so that one may deserve our democratic right to the freedom of speech?

Delusions indeed. I speak not from delusion but from my rights. Dare not to jest them away. You probably support political correctness and have converted to atheism because it's the cool thing to do. Nothing surpizes me.

[Canorth]

This thread is funny, well done sir!