Realtor Rod Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 10 hours ago, aeromotacanucks said: well. It took a long time to return here. but I come back on this historic day: https://www.yahoo.com/news/majority-brazilian-senators-vote-suspend-rousseff-063752645.html a day that will be remembered where WE Brazilians said "enought" to the crappy socialist that gives free wlfare to people who do nothing, give privilege to criminals while put decent people scared and feared of their own freedom... May 11th and 12th. 2 days where the force of millions of Brazilians on streets said "We´re pissed off with this corrupt government!" finally gave result... 2 days where we learned that yes we can bend politicians to bow to the popular demand and they´re just workers of the population... https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazilian-lawmakers-vote-impeach-president-102943634.html Brazil’s Senate Votes to Impeach President Dilma Rousseff: What Happens Now? Brazil’s senate has overwhelmingly decided to suspend President Dilma Rousseff from office. By 55 votes to 22, the upper house voted early Thursday morning she should face an impeachment trial on charges of budget irregularities. Rousseff’s once soaring approval rating has dropped to single digits amid a dire recession and political crisis brought on by a huge government corruption scandal. Her opponents blame her for both while her backers say she is facing an illegal coup, but with the weight of congress against her, few expect her to return to the presidency. What happens now? Rousseff is suspended The former leftist guerilla has pledged not to give up the fight to remain in office. But early today she is expected to be officially informed of the decision to suspend her for up to 180 days. She will give a televised statement at 10am (9am ET) in which she will say she believes herself to be the “victim of a coup” before walking down the front ramp of the presidential palace, the Planalto, in an act of defiance, aides told reporters. She will then return to her official residence, the Palácio da Alvorada, where she will be allowed to stay on a reduced salary until the senate votes on her impeachment. The vice-president takes over Michel Temer, 75, the vice-president and former coalition partner whom Rousseff has accused of plotting her downfall, is expected to arrive at the Planalto at 3pm (2pm ET) to assume his role as acting president. Unlike Rousseff, he is not expected to use the front entrance or talk to the press. He will begin to appoint ministers to his government, after a Supreme Court justice yesterday denied an application by Rousseff’s Workers’ Party to refuse him that right while she is suspended. Of the centrist Brazilian Democratic Movement party (PMDB), his policy agenda is expected to differ from that of his predecessor, with whom he was elected in 2014. The impeachment trial begins Rousseff will still technically be president but few observers believe she has any chance of returning to power. In the coming weeks, a senate committee will produce an indictment on the charges that she broke fiscal responsibility laws by using state bank funds to cover a budget shortfall. The trial could take six months. If it is endorsed by two-thirds of the senate in a vote, Rousseff will lose the presidency and be banned from public office for eight years. This morning there were 55 votes in favor, the exact number the pro-impeachment parties will eventually need to oust her. If she is impeached, Temer will assume the presidency until the next election in 2018. Brazil’s giant corruption probe goes on Operation Car Wash, the multibillion-dollar corruption investigation focused on the state oil giant Petrobras, will continue to play out. The probe has already ensnared dozens of leading politicians, including former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva; recently suspended house speaker Eduardo Cunha, who led the charge to impeach Rousseff; the leader of the senate, Renan Calheiros; and former president and current senator Fernando Collor de Mello, who resigned when facing impeachment proceedings for corruption in 1992. Last week, Rousseff — heretofore not directly linked to the Petrobras probe — was herself accused of obstructing justice by the country’s prosecutor general, meaning she could face jail. The markets react International markets have reacted strongly to the likelihood of impeachment, with the Real appreciating nearly 15 percent this calendar year, fueled by the belief that a Temer government is likely to pursue less interventionist economic policies. Temer is reported to have picked Henrique Meirelles, a former central bank president, to be finance minister and has pledged an austerity program. But the challenges are steep. The economy contracted by 3.8 percent in 2015, its worst performance in 25 years, and the country is predicted to suffer its worst recession since 1901. The public’s rage continues to boil Widespread anger against politicians, ignited by the economic crisis and Petrobras scandal, may have been politically fatal for Rousseff, but may also prove to be a challenge for Temer to handle once he assumes the presidency. Polls show a majority of Brazilians want the 75-year-old, who was ordered to pay a fine for violating campaign financing limits this month and whose party is implicated in the Petrobras scandal, impeached as well as Rousseff. As few as 2 percent would vote for him in an election. The Olympic Games loom In the midst of the unprecedented political crisis, Rio de Janeiro will host the Olympics Games from August 5 to 21. Olympic infrastructure projects have begun to be caught up in the Petrobras scandal and the Rio state government is facing its own budget crisis in the face of low oil prices, and is struggling to pay pensions and employees. The Games have also faced major cutbacks amid poor ticket sales but officials insist the mega event will be unaffected by the turmoil in Brasilia. 2 days where many Brazilians like me where ready to do the necessary to end this corrupt government by force, a government who was interested in power and cheap socialist stealing BILLIONS from the Brazilian people and economy and giving it to criminals, corrupt politicians and socialist countries such as Cuba, Bolivia, Venezuela and Angola... yes people. altought you don´t know Brazil was on the very verge of a civil war like in Syria... for Brazilians the possibility of a civil war and fragmentation of Brazil was real, we had a feeling that if we didn´t stop these socialist bastards Brazil would cease to exist... it was real, a REAL possibility... a possibility that EVERY mom feared to have it´s son gearing weapons and joining the military to stop the red mob... days where we looked each other on streets ready to geard up and kill those who wanted transform Brazil in a bigger Venezuela... days of fear... days where people including me where ready to be drafted by the military to joing them and take the weapons to take Brazil back by force... yes. but these days are over... sure there´s no easy transition. it will be a hard start, things will take some time to recover, it will not be easy, we´re not stupid... the FIFA 2014 and the Olympics where way too unecessary and expensive. it was just a brink added to ruin our economy to please the socialist bastards... but luckly the population did the job and ended the hole thing peacefully... at least from now. we gonna be ready if they try put this country in caos while they wish for unrestricted power... but we´re ready... Brazilians LEARNED what patriotism means... and believe me. We´re enjoying it... for the 1st time since the end of the WW2... Brazilians are actually saying "I´m proud of being a Brazilian and fight for this country" it´s not soccer patriotism... it´s REAL PATRIOTISM... it´s the sort of thing that I tought I was alone... but no. I wasn´t. and the nation said we´re not alone... a hard, tought and working future ahead... but it´s a new future... a future to work and believe it... because they tried... but I´m sorry for them... There´s no red on the Brazilian flag! BRASIL Feel the Bern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, Realtor Rod said: Feel the Bern not here dude! comunist is OVER here! no red on our flag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, aeromotacanucks said: not here dude! comunist is OVER here! no red on our flag! I know, but you had Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Realtor Rod said: I know, but you had Bernie here´s it´s called Lula. and he´s heading for the jail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Now only if we could impeach Obama for doing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 38 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Now only if we could impeach Obama for doing his job. just look how we did here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robongo Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 10 minutes ago, Robongo said: Dilma will cry as much as she wants it followed the Brazilian laws you dirty commie! now root in hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 This doesn't just stop here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 5 hours ago, aeromotacanucks said: Dilma will cry as much as she wants it followed the Brazilian laws you dirty commie! now root in hell! I think hell is too hot for roots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 8 hours ago, aeromotacanucks said: not here dude! comunist is OVER here! no red on our flag! Hey Troll, step your game up, the word commie hasnt been used since the mid 90's.... the new word is terrorist. Seriously, use your education! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 5 hours ago, SaintPatrick33 said: Hey Troll, step your game up, the word commie hasnt been used since the mid 90's.... the new word is terrorist. Seriously, use your education! Dilma is both... she´s a commie and during the military administration she also blew banks and people. just like people on ISIS do today... and now she´s gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, aeromotacanucks said: Dilma is both... she´s a commie and during the military administration she also blew banks and people. just like people on ISIS do today... and now she´s gone... How long before the Brazilian people decide that Temer is not doing a good enough job and look to oust him? It will have to get worse in order to get better and based on what you are saying it doesn't seem like the public is a very patient mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, Toews said: How long before the Brazilian people decide that Temer is not doing a good enough job and look to oust him? It will have to get worse in order to get better and based on what you are saying it doesn't seem like the public is a very patient mood. we are prettu concerned that reforms will be done and it will take time for that... BUT what we want is constant reforms, changes even small ones, step by step... we want a government who is not afraid to say (and Temer said yesterday on TV): "Ok Brazil. we are in a deep crisis caused by 14 years of PT. now we have a duty to get better again. and I will be honest, we need your cooperation, of every single Brazilian" that was enought for us to understand: "ok. tre president was clear. to clean the house we must do our part" and guess what? the market is already responding positively. our currency is being up since yesterday. 1US$=R$3,46 and not like 1US$=R$3,67 of 3 days ago. our stocks are up too... sure things here are angry. BUT we decided to give the new guy a chance. if we endured a 14 years of socialist government we can give a 6 months trial to the new guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 On 12/05/2016 at 7:30 AM, Dral said: so do Brazilians really believe she failed because she was a woman? Some would like to believe that is true. Personally the true sexists are the people concerned with the number of men and women in a cabinet. That's what identity politics is - when you appoint cabinet ministers off of what genitalia they have, and not their platform. If you think this way, l am sorry to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robongo Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 You fought and disposed of one corrupt leader only for an even more corrupt leader and US government puppet to take over. Another US sponsored coup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 13 hours ago, Robongo said: You fought and disposed of one corrupt leader only for an even more corrupt leader and US government puppet to take over. Another US sponsored coup really? not enought we have to handle with socialists saying that "it was a coup" now you? listen: 1) we don´t care if Temer was an US informant or if he was sponsored by the US government. WE WANT OUR ECONOMY BACK, WE WANT JOBS, WE WANT INVESTMENTS -So what if Temer worked for the CIA? so far he´s doing some good job, even on the very early stages! 2) the impeachment followed the BRAZILIAN CONSTITUTION 3) Dilma and her party (PT) stole BILLIONS from the Brazilian economy. She´s the real problem here 4) CIA you took too long! now PLEASE smash Dilma and Lula for real and end this socialist $&% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 If you believe that any brand of politics is your salvation your setting yourself up for more misery. You can quote me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 On 5/13/2016 at 5:46 AM, aeromotacanucks said: Dilma is both... she also blew banks and people... I don't know why this made me think of Clinton but there was a movement to have him impeached too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks since 77 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 14 hours ago, aeromotacanucks said: really? not enought we have to handle with socialists saying that "it was a coup" now you? listen: 1) we don´t care if Temer was an US informant or if he was sponsored by the US government. WE WANT OUR ECONOMY BACK, WE WANT JOBS, WE WANT INVESTMENTS -So what if Temer worked for the CIA? so far he´s doing some good job, even on the very early stages! 2) the impeachment followed the BRAZILIAN CONSTITUTION 3) Dilma and her party (PT) stole BILLIONS from the Brazilian economy. She´s the real problem here 4) CIA you took too long! now PLEASE smash Dilma and Lula for real and end this socialist $&% Here ya go. http://www.washingtonoutsider.org/editors-blog/overcoming-corruption-the-rousseff-impeachment-controversy?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link This tells it a bit better than you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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