BPA Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Used fighters are a stop - gap measures until they figure what they need to get (or willing to live with) out of the F-35 program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Surfbali said: The king of the north has been determined. Russia, North Korea, China and various other countries make up this symbolic king. It is prophesy.......the King of the North will dominate the King of the South......lets watch this unfold gentlemen. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfbali Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Apparently you havent read the bible Ryan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, BPA said: Used fighters are a stop - gap measures until they figure what they need to get (or willing to live with) out of the F-35 program. Stop gap? 40 year old jets is a stop gap? Canada intends to fly these till 2032. 50 year old jets, no doubt the hornet is a good jet but 40 years old. The Americans still fly them also but they have super hornets, f35s, and f22s to back them up. This is a disgrace and both parties should be ashamed of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Surfbali said: Apparently you havent read the bible Ryan? What bible? I don't remember reading about Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfbali Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 The world countries will in fact call an end to religious freedoms soon. This will be instigated by as the beast(UN). They will blame the prostitute known as the world wide religious institutions, Catholism, Muslim and various other religious institutions. The world will then act in harmony and put a clamp on free religion. This will spark events that have never been precedented. Sit back and relax my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Stop gap? 40 year old jets is a stop gap? Canada intends to fly these till 2032. 50 year old jets, no doubt the hornet is a good jet but 40 years old. The Americans still fly them also but they have super hornets, f35s, and f22s to back them up. This is a disgrace and both parties should be ashamed of themselves. Never said it was a good idea. Just how they're trying to sell it. Personally they should get the F-35. At some point, you just need to buy new. They should have learnt that from the used submarine fiasco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfbali Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 This has already begun in Russia, China, North Korea , Singapore......I could go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, BPA said: Never said it was a good idea. Just how they're trying to sell it. Personally they should get the F-35. At some point, you just need to buy new. They should have learnt that from the used submarine fiasco. I like the Advanced super hornet, maybe a mixed fleet but just get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfbali Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 We will both witness this as it will be known as Armageddon. Or the Great tribulation. It will happen in our life time.......the world is at a breaking point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) @BPA Don't even get going on the subs. So much money has been spent on them they could have bought probably a dozen new Swedish stealth submarines. Edited January 4, 2019 by Ryan Strome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfbali Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Haha.....super hornet, or Satan 2...... None will be set off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Surfbali said: We will both witness this as it will be known as Armageddon. Or the Great tribulation. It will happen in our life time.......the world is at a breaking point. Book of Revelations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfbali Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Yes sir. If anyone believes ( including warhippy) that this planet wasnt designed by a superior intellegence (God), I honestly dont know. Water, perfect air mixture, color, taste buds, appreciation of art, music? Why is there such a great abundance? This is intelligent design and well.....love. We could be eating grey slop lol. Nope......we have abundant color, wildlife and tasty food. Not to mention we can use the earths precious materials to build. Yeah......this is all a fluke. We should all be feeling fortunate to have fallen into this abundance of chance hahahhaja.......Our creator will not allow us to be destroyed permanently. The big issue is that his angels rebelled and we are left with a sovereignty issue above our pay grade. Once thats sorted out we should see an end to this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Bush sr hung the kurds out to dry now it's JTs turn. Just give the supplies to the Canadian forces and leave the middle east all together. Nearly three years after Trudeau's promise, Canadian weapons for Kurds still sit in a Montreal warehouse Nearly three years after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau promised to send weapons to Kurds in Iraq the armaments are still sitting in a military warehouse in Montreal, with no current plans to distribute the equipment to either Kurdish or Canadian forces. The government went as far as arranging to have a military aircraft transport the weapons to the Kurdish region of Iraq, where Canadian special forces were to distribute them to Kurdish soldiers whom they were training as part of the fight against ISIL. “The CAF (Canadian Armed Forces) delivery and distribution of equipment on the ground would ensure increased accountability and control while allowing for better synchronization of intended training efforts with equipment delivery and issue,” said a July 2016 briefing document Postmedia obtained under the Access to Information law. But the armaments, with an estimated value of around $10 million, got no farther than the Canadian Forces Supply Depot in Montreal, where they remain. The equipment includes .50-calibre sniper rifles equipped with silencers, 60mm mortars, Carl Gustav anti-tank systems, grenade launchers, pistols, carbines, thermal binoculars, cameras, scopes and medical supplies. A Department of National Defence official said no plans currently exist to distribute the weapons in Iraq. It is unclear why the equipment would not be then be redistributed to Canadian military units; however, a DND source said the weapons will stay in storage until the federal government decides what to do with them, and there are no indications when such a decision will be made. Much of the gear could be used by the Canadian Forces if it is decided the equipment can’t be sent overseas. In February 2016 Trudeau announced Canada would provide weapons to the Kurds to support the fight against terrorists from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. But the plan quickly went off the rails. The Iraqi government opposed arming the Kurds, who had openly acknowledged their intent was to secede one day from Iraq. They cited the example of Quebec’s attempts to leave Canada, and Kurdish leaders said the Canadian equipment was needed both to fight ISIL and to defend a future independent Kurdish state. Some defence analysts warned the Canadian government and military from the beginning that providing the Kurds with weapons was a mistake. When asked in 2016 about concerns that Canadian training and equipment could aid the Kurds in their quest for independence, Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Jon Vance replied it was important to have political unity during the fight against ISIL. “Where, after, Iraq decides to go in terms of its political laydown is up to Iraq,” he said. In the fall of 2017 Iraqi troops attacked Kurdish forces after the Kurdish Regional Government announced plans to declare an independent state in the northern part of the country, including the oil-rich area around Kirkuk. At that point the Canadian plan stalled. “The list of equipment comprised of small arms, ammunition and optical sights that has been acquired was originally intended to equip a force of between 500 – 600 Kurdish security force soldiers,” Department of National Defence spokesman Dan Le Bouthillier told Postmedia in the summer of 2018. The equipment also included C6 general purpose machine guns and C8 carbines, which are used by the Canadian Forces. The July 2016 briefing, intended for defence minister Harjit Sajjan, noted that the military wanted to use the Canadian Commercial Corporation to arrange to buy some of the equipment and that the Canadian Forces would be the “exporter of record.” Canada has provided other donations of non-lethal equipment to the Kurds, including shipments in 2014 and 2015 of helmets, clothing, bulletproof vests and bomb-hunting robots. But the Canadian military has also experienced some of the difficulties of moving equipment into the volatile region. In October 2015 Iraqi officials temporarily seized an aircraft carrying weapons for Canadian special forces in Kurdistan. The seizure came amid a wave of anti-western conspiracy theories rife in Iraqi politics. Some Iraqis voiced their concern the weapons were to be used by the Kurds for their independence movement. But other Iraqi lawmakers and military commanders claimed that the U.S. and its allies were secretly arming ISIL in order to keep the country in chaos. The Canadian aircraft, carrying rifles and silencers, was eventually allowed to leave Baghdad airport. The Iraqis also stopped a Swedish aircraft, with small arms on board, that was on its way to the Kurdish region. https://nationalpost.com/news/nearly-three-years-after-trudeaus-promise-canadian-weapons-for-kurds-still-sitting-in-montreal-warehouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Why not the Gripen NG? Is a very advanced airplane, can operate on short runways (for a fighter jet) so you can deploy it on small airfields and it's relatively cheap to produce... Or simply recreate the Avro Arrow program... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, aeromotacanucks said: Why not the Gripen NG? Is a very advanced airplane, can operate on short runways (for a fighter jet) so you can deploy it on small airfields and it's relatively cheap to produce... Or simply recreate the Avro Arrow program... I think the Gripen is a good jet I just don't think it stands a chance in this competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I think the Gripen is a good jet I just don't think it stands a chance in this competition. Why not? The F35 is actually really needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, aeromotacanucks said: Why not? The F35 is actually really needed? The f35 is what the air force wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: The f35 is what the air force wants. I know but the question is Everybody knows the F35 is extremely expensive to the point Italy is reducing the orders and even Israel is considering some local improvements and even a life extension of their F15 and F16 The F35 is advanced but it's simply way too expensive not only to buy but to keep it even considering the basic version... Maybe an upgraded version of the F15 would do just fine since it's a proven design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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