Zigmund.Palffy Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Alain Vigneault said: Kyle Capobianco and Cliff Pu OTB. Asking price is seven 2018 1sts and sixteen 2019 2nds. PM me im interested ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 35 minutes ago, Zach Parise said: To Dallas Stars: Max Jones Denis Guryanov To Pittsburgh Penguins: Markus Nutivaara Brendan Guhle 2018 St. Louis 1st 2018 New Jersey 1st 2019 Carolina 1st 2019 Nashville 2nd Dimytro Timashov @Baer. Vetoed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigmund.Palffy Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, Zach Parise said: To Dallas Stars: Max Jones Denis Guryanov To Pittsburgh Penguins: Markus Nutivaara Brendan Guhle 2018 St. Louis 1st 2018 New Jersey 1st 2019 Carolina 1st 2019 Nashville 2nd Dimytro Timashov @Baer. Trade will be vetoed @morrissex95 @SliteriousBlackbeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Baer. said: Vetoed. Not happy about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaManbeast Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, SliteriousBlackbeard said: Not happy about this... What could possibly be your logic behind that trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, ThaManbeast said: What could possibly be your logic behind that trade? I like Jones and Guryanov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sane33 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, ThaManbeast said: What could possibly be your logic behind that trade? I think thats what we are all wondering loll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I don't get why the trade was vetoed. Jones and Guryanov are valuable parts of my future and I stated I was only willing to move them if someone was willing to pay a premium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, morrissex95 said: I don't get why the trade was vetoed. Jones and Guryanov are valuable parts of my future and I stated I was only willing to move them if someone was willing to pay a premium Not your fault taking candy from a baby. League has to have a standard though when it comes to trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Tbh, both deserve the sack. In what world does trying to trade the likes of Guryanov and Jones, and then openly shopping all of Fiala, Neiderreiter, and Zibanejad, not go against building for the future? Trading one or two young guys to recuperate assets because the cupboard is bare or to meet some specific team needs? Sure, it's plausible. But this approach is ridiculous. Like, are you trying to compete for 2028/29 finally? And then you the other who starts off with Hischier/Kucherov/bunch of other young players and prospects, scorches the earth for picks...just to turn around and mass trade picks for prospects (who will likely amount to being low-end 1st liners in the absolute best scenario) when he could have just asked for prospects in the first place. You both wanna rebuild, go for it. But then take a look at what Boston is doing or what Arizona had started OR even some of the things I've done with my roster. Don't just fetishize picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Alain Vigneault said: Tbh, both deserve the sack. In what world does trying to trade the likes of Guryanov and Jones, and then openly shopping all of Fiala, Neiderreiter, and Zibanejad, not go against building for the future? Trading one or two young guys to recuperate assets because the cupboard is bare or to meet some specific team needs? Sure, it's plausible. But this approach is ridiculous. Like, are you trying to compete for 2028/29 finally? And then you the other who starts off with Hischier/Kucherov/bunch of other young players and prospects, scorches the earth for picks...just to turn around and mass trade picks for prospects (who will likely amount to being low-end 1st liners in the absolute best scenario) when he could have just asked for prospects in the first place. You both wanna rebuild, go for it. But then take a look at what Boston is doing or what Arizona had started OR even some of the things I've done with my roster. Don't just fetishize picks. You have your way. I have mine. Ones no better than the other (you may beg to differ). Let it play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: Tbh, both deserve the sack. In what world does trying to trade the likes of Guryanov and Jones, and then openly shopping all of Fiala, Neiderreiter, and Zibanejad, not go against building for the future? Trading one or two young guys to recuperate assets because the cupboard is bare or to meet some specific team needs? Sure, it's plausible. But this approach is ridiculous. Like, are you trying to compete for 2028/29 finally? And then you the other who starts off with Hischier/Kucherov/bunch of other young players and prospects, scorches the earth for picks...just to turn around and mass trade picks for prospects (who will likely amount to being low-end 1st liners in the absolute best scenario) when he could have just asked for prospects in the first place. You both wanna rebuild, go for it. But then take a look at what Boston is doing or what Arizona had started OR even some of the things I've done with my roster. Don't just fetishize picks. Back off bro. I have a strategy. Dallas looks like he probably doesn't. I do not need to justify my strategy for you. What I'm doing is accumulate assets so I can rebuild my core in the offseason. I'm shopping Fiala, Niederreiter and Zibanejad but I haven't traded any of them yet. I'm allowed to shop whoever I want and I don't need to justify that for you so just back off and worry about your own team. PS Fiala has only put up 2 points this year. Did you know that? If you did you'd understand why I'm looking for better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, morrissex95 said: Back off bro. I have a strategy. Dallas looks like he probably doesn't. I do not need to justify my strategy for you. What I'm doing is accumulate assets so I can rebuild my core in the offseason. I'm shopping Fiala, Niederreiter and Zibanejad but I haven't traded any of them yet. I'm allowed to shop whoever I want and I don't need to justify that for you so just back off and worry about your own team. Thanks! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, SliteriousBlackbeard said: Thanks! Lol I hope I didn't offend you by saying it looks like you don't have a strategy but I do and I think I've done a damn good job rebuilding this team by getting quite a few assets for Carlsson and Keith. I literally cannot believe he said "maybe you should look at some of the thing I've done with my team" likes he's some kind of &^@#ing expert or something. Totally uncalled for and ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: Tbh, both deserve the sack. In what world does trying to trade the likes of Guryanov and Jones, and then openly shopping all of Fiala, Neiderreiter, and Zibanejad, not go against building for the future? Trading one or two young guys to recuperate assets because the cupboard is bare or to meet some specific team needs? Sure, it's plausible. But this approach is ridiculous. Like, are you trying to compete for 2028/29 finally? And then you the other who starts off with Hischier/Kucherov/bunch of other young players and prospects, scorches the earth for picks...just to turn around and mass trade picks for prospects (who will likely amount to being low-end 1st liners in the absolute best scenario) when he could have just asked for prospects in the first place. You both wanna rebuild, go for it. But then take a look at what Boston is doing or what Arizona had started OR even some of the things I've done with my roster. Don't just fetishize picks. I only have one more trade than I will be done for the season. Maybe deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zigmund.Palffy Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, morrissex95 said: I hope I didn't offend you by saying it looks like you don't have a strategy but I do and I think I've done a damn good job rebuilding this team by getting quite a few assets for Carlsson and Keith. I literally cannot believe he said "maybe you should look at some of the thing I've done with my team" likes he's some kind of &^@#ing expert or something. Totally uncalled for and ridiculous Hey hey watch your language mister. Its obviously not making sense for one team and honestly why would Dallas do this trade ? 2 1st and Nutivaara for guryanov not even proven yet and max jones who might not be in NHL at all. IMO this trade is vetoed due to straight fleecing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Zach Parise said: Hey hey watch your language mister. Its obviously not making sense for one team and honestly why would Dallas do this trade ? 2 1st and Nutivaara for guryanov not even proven yet and max jones who might not be in NHL at all. IMO this trade is vetoed due to straight fleecing! 1st round plus prospect for each of guryanov and Jones... does that sounds fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaManbeast Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, SliteriousBlackbeard said: 1st round plus prospect for each of guryanov and Jones... does that sounds fine? No you dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sane33 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, SliteriousBlackbeard said: 1st round plus prospect for each of guryanov and Jones... does that sounds fine? how are both gyryanov and jones worth a first and prospect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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