JM_ Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 I started this thread as a bit of a joke... but tbh if TMX goes down I think this might just become reality after this week, even with how stupid it would be for so many reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Jimmy McGill Time for jt to man up and do the right thing.. Alberta demands to be removed from federal carbon tax in wake of court decision The Alberta government is demanding that the federal carbon tax no longer apply to the province after the Alberta Court of Appeal ruled the tax unconstitutional because it infringes on provincial jurisdiction. Alberta Justice Minister Doug Schweitzer is also asking the federal government to “work out a process for the reimbursement to Albertans of taxes paid,” in a letter sent Wednesday morning to federal Justice Minister David Lametti. “If you do not respond accordingly to our demands, the Government of Alberta will be forced to consider additional legal recourse to ensure that this unlawful tax on Albertans is removed and fully reimbursed,” the letter reads. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/alberta-demands-to-be-removed-from-federal-carbon-tax-in-wake-of-court-decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I started this thread as a bit of a joke... but tbh if TMX goes down I think this might just become reality after this week, even with how stupid it would be for so many reasons. Actually ever since you started it independence has grown. Now Albertans potentially have the ability to force the provincial government to call a referendum based on new legislation being introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: @Jimmy McGill Time for jt to man up and do the right thing.. Alberta demands to be removed from federal carbon tax in wake of court decision The Alberta government is demanding that the federal carbon tax no longer apply to the province after the Alberta Court of Appeal ruled the tax unconstitutional because it infringes on provincial jurisdiction. Alberta Justice Minister Doug Schweitzer is also asking the federal government to “work out a process for the reimbursement to Albertans of taxes paid,” in a letter sent Wednesday morning to federal Justice Minister David Lametti. “If you do not respond accordingly to our demands, the Government of Alberta will be forced to consider additional legal recourse to ensure that this unlawful tax on Albertans is removed and fully reimbursed,” the letter reads. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/alberta-demands-to-be-removed-from-federal-carbon-tax-in-wake-of-court-decision there's a better chance that the feds buy the Frontier project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: there's a better chance that the feds buy the Frontier project. I know you probably very much like the wording from Schweitzer, right? I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Actually ever since you started it independence has grown. Now Albertans potentially have the ability to force the provincial government to call a referendum based on new legislation being introduced. I still think its a dumb idea. In 50 years you could be a ghost town if the world actually moves off oil, but I can see anger growing out of control if TMX gets nixed. Teck should have been approved months ago, it has full support of the first nations involved. The CEO may have ultimately pulled the plug anyway but at least AB would know Trudeau was open to approving projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: I know you probably very much like the wording from Schweitzer, right? I love it. red meat for the base. Kenney and his gang need to do more than this empty BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: @Jimmy McGill Time for jt to man up and do the right thing.. Alberta demands to be removed from federal carbon tax in wake of court decision The Alberta government is demanding that the federal carbon tax no longer apply to the province after the Alberta Court of Appeal ruled the tax unconstitutional because it infringes on provincial jurisdiction. Alberta Justice Minister Doug Schweitzer is also asking the federal government to “work out a process for the reimbursement to Albertans of taxes paid,” in a letter sent Wednesday morning to federal Justice Minister David Lametti. “If you do not respond accordingly to our demands, the Government of Alberta will be forced to consider additional legal recourse to ensure that this unlawful tax on Albertans is removed and fully reimbursed,” the letter reads. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/alberta-demands-to-be-removed-from-federal-carbon-tax-in-wake-of-court-decision A little premature. This kind of demand would be warranted if the Supreme Court of Canada ruled the Carbon Tax unconstitutional. Until the Supreme Court rules, this is a bunch of hot air b.s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Actually ever since you started it independence has grown. Now Albertans potentially have the ability to force the provincial government to call a referendum based on new legislation being introduced. It’s growing because ordinary people are feeling the pain. They are paying more attention to what the politicians are saying and doing. Vivian Krause can release her research but many people didn’t actually pay attention. Now they hear that their so called federal government has been giving money to the Pembina Institute and lying about it. I suspect more hard facts will be forthcoming on how money is drained east. Businesses that are hurting will/are funding Wexit. This hasn’t happened in a major way before. Oil has another + 30 years of use. All major producers continue to invest in the industry. Read Vermillion’s year end. Expanding in Europe continues. USA scooped the LNG industry from BC. Canada is a banana monarchy. What is happening to the West is a national security issue and the debate doesn’t move beyond a bunch of American paid protesters drinking coffee around tire fires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I still think its a dumb idea. In 50 years you could be a ghost town if the world actually moves off oil, but I can see anger growing out of control if TMX gets nixed. Teck should have been approved months ago, it has full support of the first nations involved. The CEO may have ultimately pulled the plug anyway but at least AB would know Trudeau was open to approving projects. one would think they would have approved it before and put the ball in tecks Court to either Nix it or go forward with it that way they couldn't get blamed 28 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: red meat for the base. Kenney and his gang need to do more than this empty BS. So you like the tone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: A little premature. This kind of demand would be warranted if the Supreme Court of Canada ruled the Carbon Tax unconstitutional. Until the Supreme Court rules, this is a bunch of hot air b.s. No need for the federal government to waste anymore tax dollars fighting a losing battle. Alberta judges were pretty decisive. give us our money back and scrap the tax. Edited February 26, 2020 by Ryan Strome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: No need for the federal government to waste anymore tax dollars fighting a losing battle. Alberta judges were pretty decisive. give us our money back and scrap the tax. That's not how it works. The Supreme court will provide the final say on this issue. If the court sides with those fighting the Carbon tax then give you guys back your money. If it sides with the Federal government then too bad for you. That's how our democracy works, and BTW how the US and many other democracies work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: That's not how it works. The Supreme court will provide the final say on this issue. If the court sides with those fighting the Carbon tax then give you guys back your money. If it sides with the Federal government then too bad for you. That's how our democracy works, and BTW how the US and many other democracies work. what kind of a moron would fight a. carbon tax ? is this the same type of person that is fighting mandatory vacinations ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: what kind of a moron would fight a. carbon tax ? is this the same type of person that is fighting mandatory vacinations ? We fought it and won! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: We fought it and won! Will you fight to ban mandatory vacinations next ? Will you fight for right for children to be able to buy cigarettes and chewing tobacco next ? Will Alberta next fight for the right of elementary kids to bring guns to school ? Quite a province you guys are building there.... Edited February 26, 2020 by kingofsurrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: We fought it and won! You won in Alberta. The final say comes from the Supreme court of Canada. You're celebrating a win with the 3rd period yet to finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: You won in Alberta. The final say comes from the Supreme court of Canada. You're celebrating a win with the 3rd period yet to finish. Alberta court voting to support climate destruction... WELL that certainly is a surprise... LMAO See you at CDN Supreme court.... you will get destroyed there. Edited February 26, 2020 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 44 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: one would think they would have approved it before and put the ball in tecks Court to either Nix it or go forward with it that way they couldn't get blamed So you like the tone? one would think, that yes. I guess the only thing saving Alberta from self-imposed exile is comments with that "tone" might serve as a release valve on coffee row. My concern is that it turns into a Brexit-like situation where people really do turn off their brains. I'm more concerned today than ever before that Canada is shooting itself in the foot economically. I don't think Trudeau/Butts has the answer. Freeland may. MacKay doesn't. I dunno man, I don't see a way out at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: You won in Alberta. The final say comes from the Supreme court of Canada. You're celebrating a win with the 3rd period yet to finish. No need to go that far. Alberta judges are totally impartial and are the best in the world. 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: one would think, that yes. I guess the only thing saving Alberta from self-imposed exile is comments with that "tone" might serve as a release valve on coffee row. My concern is that it turns into a Brexit-like situation where people really do turn off their brains. I'm more concerned today than ever before that Canada is shooting itself in the foot economically. I don't think Trudeau/Butts has the answer. Freeland may. MacKay doesn't. I dunno man, I don't see a way out at the moment. You really are homesick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Alberta court voting to support climate destruction... WELL that certainly is a suprise... LMAO See you at CDN Supreme court.... you will get destroyed there. Nah jt should do the right thing and let it go. He was beat by the most impartial judges in Canada. Just give the money back Justin, no apology needed. Edited February 26, 2020 by Ryan Strome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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