Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, surtur said: but did he die? Great. I guess we'll see if he dies. Then we'll know if he really had COVID. Great logic, troll. LOL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Because, y'know, death of the incumbent is the ONLY measure of the impact from getting this infection... I can't believe how stupid people are. Like these are ordinary people spewing out some really stupid positions. I don't claim to be enlightened, but having the decency to be responsible is one of many things people lack, because they don't want to believe COVID. If I have a cold of any sort, regardless of COVID or not, I don't question a diagnosis. I stay the &^@# home so I don't spread anything. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Source? The Lancet (which is a peer-reviewed medical journal) seems to suggest otherwise. PCR test inventor Kary Mullis: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dazzle said: So are you trusting the scientific community which developed the COVID test, or do you trust Fox, which is a pro-Trump network? It seems you trust neither. As above, listen to the INVENTOR of the test. I do my own research and don't simply believe what the TV tells me, let alone politicians or their operatives like Fauci and Tam who continually contradict themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Gaudette Celly said: PCR test inventor Kary Mullis: So wouldn't the responsible thing be to isolate yourself then? You're dodging the point. Actually, I think I already know your answer. You won't isolate or take any precautions because you don't care about what happens to other people. Can you guarantee that you don't transfer the virus? If not, then you are being reckless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Gaudette Celly said: As above, listen to the INVENTOR of the test. I do my own research and don't simply believe what the TV tells me, let alone politicians or their operatives like Fauci and Tam who continually contradict themselves. Each person that I have talked to about this, yeah, it doesn't end well for them. I'm actually curious what your research has come up with so far. What are your opinions of COVID, and how it's being transmitted? Most importantly, how are you determining these results? (i.e. what is your scientific method? Statistics) Doing your own research doesn't mean "Well, someone else is doing my research for me." Otherwise you are cherrypicking information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Cuz it's a hoax... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocivus Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Gaudette Celly said: Fake news. Is the guy even sick or showing any signs of illness? No, it was just a "test", which means absolutely nothing. The PCR test is notoriously unreliable, yielding 89-94% false positives because it wasn't even designed for that purpose and thereby has zero correlation to whether someone is infected or contagious, let alone symptomatic. This ignorance, insanity, and fear-porn simply has to stop. Agreed. 100%. The Governors here in the states using this boogeyman virus as an excuse to give orders that are not granted to them by the US Constitution is blatant tyranny. The fact that LE are following these orders and breaking the oath they swore to uphold makes me sick to my stomach. Edited October 28, 2020 by Bocivus 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 37 minutes ago, Gaudette Celly said: "Not a false positive" -- according to some reporter from Fox Sports? Surely a medical professional to make such a claim. So the team let a verifiably visibly ill player around the team and into the game? Pretty sure Ken Rosenthal is one of the most respected baseball writers out there. Did you do your own research on that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Bocivus said: Agreed. 100%. The Governors here in the states using this boogeyman virus as an excuse to give orders that are not granted to them by the US Constitution is blatant tyranny. The fact that LE are following these orders and breaking the oath they swore to uphold makes me sick to my stomach. Lol, and what do they gain out of this? Certainly their country suffers because of an economic closure due to a COVID crisis, which affects their voting base. 200,000+ people have died due to COVID in your country and not one mention of it in your post, but the very mention of tyranny is at the center of your post. Your country is screwed beyond belief because of people like you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Crabcakes said: I'd really like to know how many Dodgers and people connected with the team come down with Covid in the next couple of weeks. This could be a great teaching moment for American Covidiots. 227K deaths, if they haven't learn by now, I don't think that will change anything. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dazzle said: So wouldn't the responsible thing be to isolate yourself then? You're dodging the point. Actually, I think I already know your answer. You won't isolate or take any precautions because you don't care about what happens to other people. Can you guarantee that you don't transfer the virus? If not, then you are being reckless. Dodging what point? The tests are PROVEN irrelevant and pointless, and the guy in question isn't even ill, same as most that take it. Did you even watch the video? Are you interested in facts, or just emoting and maintaining a level of fear and angst? Instead of name-calling, telling people what you think they believe, and falsely projecting their intentions, turn the TV off and do some (any?) real research ON YOUR OWN. Listen to what Mullis said, and understand what he said. The "test" simply identifies fragments of RNA, and has nothing to do with indicating if someone is infected, contagious, or even ill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Gaudette Celly said: Dodging what point? The tests are PROVEN irrelevant and pointless, and the guy in question isn't even ill, same as most that take it. Did you even watch the video? Are you interested in facts, or just emoting and maintaining a level of fear and angst? Instead of name-calling, telling people what you think they believe, and falsely projecting their intentions, turn the TV off and do some (any?) real research ON YOUR OWN. Listen to what Mullis said, and understand what he said. The "test" simply identifies fragments of RNA, and has nothing to do with indicating if someone is infected, contagious, or even ill. PROVEN? Did Mullis himself talk about Covid specifically? Because if you did ANY research on him, you'd realize he died in August 2019. Furthermore, he himself said that the PCR test cannot be misused. (It's in the video) Now, what you've PROVEN to me is that you've taken something completely unrelated to COVID (Covid was first reported as early as December 2019), and tried to make a point about PCR/Covid. Nice "research" there. Also, check this out: https://in.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr/fact-check-inventor-of-method-used-to-test-for-covid-19-didnt-say-it-cant-be-used-in-virus-detection-idUSKBN24420X Yeah, it looks like you don't actually know what you're talking about @Gaudette Celly Edited October 28, 2020 by Dazzle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bocivus said: Agreed. 100%. The Governors here in the states using this boogeyman virus as an excuse to give orders that are not granted to them by the US Constitution is blatant tyranny. The fact that LE are following these orders and breaking the oath they swore to uphold makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah, but fortunately in Michigan the courts ruled their governor had far over-stepped her bounds in mandating all the lockdowns and tyranny upon her state. It's no different here, btw -- they instill unelected medical people as dictators, creating and enforcing mandates by fiat outside of the legislature, which is tyranny by definition. But most people don't care and cannot even see what's happening. Sad fact is they love fear and tyranny, and are going to continue to get it, good and hard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Dazzle said: PROVEN? Did Mullis himself talk about Covid specifically? So you didn't even watch it, or again, simply didn't understand what he said. Hint: it was about the use of PCR for viruses and RNA in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Gaudette Celly said: Yeah, but fortunately in Michigan the courts ruled their governor had far over-stepped her bounds in mandating all the lockdowns and tyranny upon her state. It's no different here, btw -- they instill unelected medical people as dictators, creating and enforcing mandates by fiat outside of the legislature, which is tyranny by definition. But most people don't care and cannot even see what's happening. Sad fact is they love fear and tyranny, and are going to continue to get it, good and hard. Holy crap dude. You have 227,000 + deaths due to COVID. I'd like to hear their thoughts about them "not caring" about COVID. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Gaudette Celly said: So you didn't even watch it, or again, simply didn't understand what he said. Hint: it was about the use of PCR for viruses and RNA in general. I saw the video. Yeah? And did you see that PCR tests are considered the "gold standard" for measuring SAR viruses. A spokesperson for Public Health England told Reuters why PCR tests are being used widely in England: “Molecular diagnostic tests, such as real-time PCR, are the gold standard methods for identifying individuals with an active viral infection, such as SARS-CoV-2 (the cause of COVID-19 disease), in their respiratory tract. These tests are rapid and produce results in real-time. It's in the Reuters link above. So let me ask you this: do you know what the scientific method is to measure this, or are you rejecting evidence because it doesn't suit your narrative? To me, it's the second. You have yet to explain how it works, Mr. Researcher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckinEdm Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just my opinion and probably alot of you disagree but he has already interacted with the team without any precautions so they have all been exposed already. What is the difference if he quarantines right then or an hour later, the entire team will need to isolate anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, CanuckinEdm said: Just my opinion and probably alot of you disagree but he has already interacted with the team without any precautions so they have all been exposed already. What is the difference if he quarantines right then or an hour later, the entire team will need to isolate anyways. While this may make sense, limiting your exposure to other is still a sensible thing to do, IN CASE that you didn't transfer the virus to someone else (there is a chance that you didn't give it to people). But now, you are possibly maximizing the transmission of the virus by joining your teammates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: He didn't quote any figures, or even provide a range. I'm still inclined to believe a peer-reviewed journal over this video snippet that is very likely taken out of context and not even relevant to the discussion at hand. This is exactly it. This video talks NOTHING about COVID. Dr. Mullis died in August 2019, so he couldn't have been talking about COVID. Furthermore, the PCR test is used to detect SAR viruses, as per the Reuters link I linked. Thus, this INVALIDATES @Gaudette Celly's claim that PCR is "PROVEN" to be useless. It sounds to me like he doesn't actually know how the PCR test works, and he's taken this video out of context to explain his gaps of knowledge. Very dangerous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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