HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Petey_BOI said: oh you think, virtanen beagle and roussel have positive value? interesting Nope, but when I say a bag of pucks, I mean a bag of pucks lol. I think Virtanen could be moved for a pick. Beagle and Rousell would have to go for a 7th round pick or future considerations (if even possible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Petey_BOI said: oh you think, virtanen beagle and roussel have positive value? interesting Virt's a guaranteed buyout. Its possible to maybe move Beagle and Rooster with 1/2 retained and b-prospects, and as long as we don't overspend on Larsson we could slot in a Harmonic. Its all tight but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, HKSR said: Nope, but when I say a bag of pucks, I mean a bag of pucks lol. I think Virtanen could be moved for a pick. Beagle and Rousell would have to go for a 7th round pick or future considerations (if even possible). that would be positive value, thats what i find interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: @HKSR I like what you've done here, all but Larsson, for me he's really over rated and not worth the $. I'd rather just keep developing the right side with Woo and capable but not flashy players like Hamonic, who imo bring just as good a game as Larsson. I like Larsson simply because he can log the big minutes. Nobody else in our system on the right side could step in and log the big minutes right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: Virt's a guaranteed buyout. Its possible to maybe move Beagle and Rooster with 1/2 retained and b-prospects, and as long as we don't overspend on Larsson we could slot in a Harmonic. Its all tight but possible. I see 2 scenarios with Virt: 1. He's innocent -- trade him anyways as it'll be a distraction. He will definitely get a pick back. 2. He's guilty -- contract is terminated. Either way, his cap will and can be moved out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, HKSR said: Brock's was $5.875 in a non-covid world. Petey and Hughes at $6.5M in a covid world with a flat cap for at least a couple more years is more than realistic. I dunno of any players that signed $8M bridge deals lmao I dunno my understanding is that the agent Pettersson switched with (who incidentally is also Hughe's agent) is tough contract negotiator. And you don't switch agents in a contract year to take a discount. Edited May 10, 2021 by iinatcc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: Virt's a guaranteed buyout. Its possible to maybe move Beagle and Rooster with 1/2 retained and b-prospects, and as long as we don't overspend on Larsson we could slot in a Harmonic. Its all tight but possible. yes i could see that playing out. but those retained salaries add up, thats 3 million right there. we probably wont be able to do all that OP is suggesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, iinatcc said: I dunno my understanding is that the agent Pettersson switched with (who incidentally is also Hughe's agent) is tough contract negotiator. And you don't switch agents in a contract year to take a discount. It's not a discount. It's market value. There's no player in history that has signed a true bridge deal for that kinda money. Tkachuk has probably signed the biggest bridge deal at $7M AAV for 3 years. Others like Aho signed 7 or 8 year deals for the big money right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, HKSR said: I like Larsson simply because he can log the big minutes. Nobody else in our system on the right side could step in and log the big minutes right now. other than retaining Hamonic and 1/2 the price. I think he brings a more physical presence than Larsson who outside of picking on Hughes is pretty soft. We can find the minutes cheaper elsewhere imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Virt's a guaranteed buyout. Its possible to maybe move Beagle and Rooster with 1/2 retained and b-prospects, and as long as we don't overspend on Larsson we could slot in a Harmonic. Its all tight but possible. 1 minute ago, Petey_BOI said: yes i could see that playing out. but those retained salaries add up, thats 3 million right there. we probably wont be able to do all that OP is suggesting Could play the LTIR game... Ferland's LTIR buffer isn't being utilized in my scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: other than retaining Hamonic and 1/2 the price. I think he brings a more physical presence than Larsson who outside of picking on Hughes is pretty soft. We can find the minutes cheaper elsewhere imo. Possibly. If that's the case, I think it'd be worthwhile to spend more on the LW position and a cheaper alternative on RHD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, HKSR said: Could play the LTIR game... Ferland's LTIR buffer isn't being utilized in my scenario. likely have to next year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: Could play the LTIR game... Ferland's LTIR buffer isn't being utilized in my scenario. ferlands ltir does not gain us any cap space, you could argue beagle's might but not ferlands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Petey_BOI said: ferlands ltir does not gain us any cap space, you could argue beagle's might but not ferlands How so? Could you elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, HKSR said: How so? Could you elaborate? when you start the season, you have to be under the cap or put the players into ltir before the season starts. either way you do not gain a advantage, merely a replacement. in almost every situation you lose cap space, and you lose other benefits too. LTIR players on your roster is a bad thing, except when you can use it to circumvent the cap and bring those players back in the offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Petey_BOI said: when you start the season, you have to be under the cap or put the players into ltir before the season starts. either way you do not gain a advantage, merely a replacement. in almost every situation you lose cap space, and you lose other benefits too. LTIR players on your roster is a bad thing, except when you can use it to circumvent the cap and bring those players back in the offseason. I disagree. Please have a good read of this to understand how it works: https://couchguysports.com/the-nhl-ltir-explained/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, HKSR said: I disagree. Please have a good read of this to understand how it works: https://couchguysports.com/the-nhl-ltir-explained/ nah, i know better. don't you remember this preseason and hamonic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Petey_BOI said: nah, i know better. don't you remember this preseason and hamonic? What about this preseason and Hamonic? In my scenario, the Canucks are pretty much right up against the cap. So their ACSL will likely be in the $83M to $84M range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, HKSR said: What about this preseason and Hamonic? In my scenario, the Canucks are pretty much right up against the cap. So their ACSL will likely be in the $83M to $84M range. in the pre-season I made a mess arguing about LTIR. A few experts explained it to me i think MLL was his name. if you want to understand it better go to capfriendly. just remember that the injured players salray doesn't disappear, it is replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: What about this preseason and Hamonic? In my scenario, the Canucks are pretty much right up against the cap. So their ACSL will likely be in the $83M to $84M range. or in other words, if we had 9 players with a total of 81.5 million on LTIR we would still only have 81.5 million available in replacements. once those players come off LTIR it's trade time because they will be over the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now