MattWN. Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Like my previous post about Adam Lowry, this one is about adding some grit, while addressing some holes in our lineup. Marcus Foligno LW/RW 3.1 million through 2023-24, UFA next summer. Though unlike Lowry he's a LW/RW, so he doesn't fit that 3rd line C hole. Minnesota like Vancouver, will be in some cap trouble next season. I'd consider an offered centered around Boeser with some retained money for Foligno. Foligno is a beast. He can hit, skate, fight, and has shown the ability to also put the puck in the net. Lets remember he scored 23 goals in 2021-2022, so he's not just some brute. To Minnesota - Brock Boeser with 1 mil retained (5.6 remaining cap hit) - NJ 4th round pick 2024 To Vancouver - Marcus Folingo - MIN 3rd round pick 2025 (They have no 3rd in 2023 or 2024) TRUCULENCE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Has it occurred to anyone? Maybe Minny doesn't want Brock? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Has it occurred to anyone? Maybe Minny doesn't want Brock? Until there's any sort of proof, he'll continue being attached to Minny. No reason to believe they wouldn't be interested. I think the dollar value is an issue, but with retention I'm sure they would be interested. Their biggest issue is scoring/secondary scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, MattWN. said: Until there's any sort of proof, he'll continue being attached to Minny. No reason to believe they wouldn't be interested. I think the dollar value is an issue, but with retention I'm sure they would be interested. Their biggest issue is scoring/secondary scoring. The Wild had more than ample cap space to add Boeser at the TDL without even removing from their roster. They had something like 15M in TDL cap space with all they had banked. They went after other players instead and even acted as 3rd party broker for late picks. Boeser's agent has apparently been continuously on Guerin's back to trade for Boeser - he made it even known publicly that Boeser would love to go home. Got to wonder if he rescinded his trade request because he knows the Wild aren't willing to make a move for him. The cap math doesn't work btw. CapFriendly shows the playoff roster with the black aces and their RFAs are still unsigned. Still gives an indication as it's a full roster but 5-6 like Petan, Fogarty are placeholders for their more expensive extension to come. IE the 3.5M they show in cap space will be much less than 3.5M. Gustavsson alone might just eat up all their cap space. Now that they've again lost in the 1st round got to wonder what's their next step. Do they blame it on injuries - Ek was the player they couldn't afford to lose or decide to make changes. The Wild have Ryan Hartman at C1 and Freddy Gaudreau at C2/C3 + even Sam Steele at C1 when Hartman couldn't go. If they ever manage to create some cap room got to wonder if they wouldn't prefer to spend it to upgrade at C instead of on the wings. Edited April 30, 2023 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 11:18 AM, MattWN. said: Like my previous post about Adam Lowry, this one is about adding some grit, while addressing some holes in our lineup. Marcus Foligno LW/RW 3.1 million through 2023-24, UFA next summer. Though unlike Lowry he's a LW/RW, so he doesn't fit that 3rd line C hole. Minnesota like Vancouver, will be in some cap trouble next season. I'd consider an offered centered around Boeser with some retained money for Foligno. Foligno is a beast. He can hit, skate, fight, and has shown the ability to also put the puck in the net. Lets remember he scored 23 goals in 2021-2022, so he's not just some brute. To Minnesota - Brock Boeser with 1 mil retained (5.6 remaining cap hit) - NJ 4th round pick 2024 To Vancouver - Marcus Folingo - MIN 3rd round pick 2025 (They have no 3rd in 2023 or 2024) TRUCULENCE. Good thinking! Value works all around. Keeps Brock happy because he goes home. Brings a rare and new element to Vancouvers forward group and Foligno could play with Pettersson or Miller and also grind the 3rd line. Nice job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 2:47 PM, Ghostsof1915 said: Has it occurred to anyone? Maybe Minny doesn't want Brock? I think losing in the first round might jar some of those thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 2:47 PM, Ghostsof1915 said: Has it occurred to anyone? Maybe Minny doesn't want Brock? Minnesota is kind of like Montreal. Montreal is always open to Francophone players, and most of them seem amenable to the idea of going there. Minnesota seems to have the same thing going with Minnesota kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, McBackup said: Minnesota is kind of like Montreal. Montreal is always open to Francophone players, and most of them seem amenable to the idea of going there. Minnesota seems to have the same thing going with Minnesota kids. Guerin actually mocked the idea when he was asked and says that's not how you build a team. He even spoke against bringing in players from Minnesota early in his tenure. He felt it contributed to a country club atmosphere and went on to ship out players with local ties. Sounds like he initially didn't even want to draft players from Minnesota. He realised that he was cutting himself out from quite a pool of talent (MN the State with the most NHLers) and has changed his views since but doubt they are targeting local players. When it was brought up Russo asked their owner and he answered he couldn't care less. He's not even from Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Is this season a blip or is he trending down at 31 years old? For size and defensive ability I think he would be a better fit than Boeser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 10:05 PM, mll said: The Wild had more than ample cap space to add Boeser at the TDL without even removing from their roster. They had something like 15M in TDL cap space with all they had banked. They went after other players instead and even acted as 3rd party broker for late picks. Boeser's agent has apparently been continuously on Guerin's back to trade for Boeser - he made it even known publicly that Boeser would love to go home. Got to wonder if he rescinded his trade request because he knows the Wild aren't willing to make a move for him. The cap math doesn't work btw. CapFriendly shows the playoff roster with the black aces and their RFAs are still unsigned. Still gives an indication as it's a full roster but 5-6 like Petan, Fogarty are placeholders for their more expensive extension to come. IE the 3.5M they show in cap space will be much less than 3.5M. Gustavsson alone might just eat up all their cap space. Now that they've again lost in the 1st round got to wonder what's their next step. Do they blame it on injuries - Ek was the player they couldn't afford to lose or decide to make changes. The Wild have Ryan Hartman at C1 and Freddy Gaudreau at C2/C3 + even Sam Steele at C1 when Hartman couldn't go. If they ever manage to create some cap room got to wonder if they wouldn't prefer to spend it to upgrade at C instead of on the wings. They have buyout hits next year for Parise and Suter that are an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I don't mind the trade because it is also short term cap coming back to Van, but I'd rather we send Garland to them and keep Brock. They save a little on the cap end with Garland over Brock, but still get a forward that can play top 6. Canucks get a 3rd line LW who brings some size and physicality. His production wasn't great this past season though (or in the playoffs), so I don't expect much offense from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 57 minutes ago, MattWN. said: They have buyout hits next year for Parise and Suter that are an issue. And more the reason why this deal doesn't work cap wise - if they trade Foligno they can't be adding someone that's more expensive than him. Guerin has been repeating to no end that they can't add players making millions. Again yesterday at his end of season presser. Talks of how important their ELC players are going to be the next couple of seasons to weather their cap situation. Another sign of their lack of interest in Boeser is the extension to Johansson. Their top-6 wings are full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 Just now, mll said: And more the reason why this deal doesn't work cap wise - if they trade Foligno they can't be adding someone that's more expensive than him. Guerin has been repeating to no end that they can't add players making millions. Again yesterday at his end of season presser. Talks of how important their ELC players are going to be the next couple of seasons to weather their cap situation. Another sign of their lack of interest in Boeser is the extension to Johansson. Their top-6 wings are full. Most teams are capped out, it's not going to stop them from making moves. If they plan to address their scoring issues, they'll have to move cash around. Johansson doesn't address the lack of scoring/depth scoring. They have enough big bodies in the lineup that can fill the void left by Foligno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, MattWN. said: Most teams are capped out, it's not going to stop them from making moves. If they plan to address their scoring issues, they'll have to move cash around. Johansson doesn't address the lack of scoring/depth scoring. They have enough big bodies in the lineup that can fill the void left by Foligno. Johansson had 18pts in 20 games for the Wild and found immediate chemistry with Boldy. The Wild's playoff slogan was "grit first". Evason insists that they are not a cute team but grit with skill and definitely not skill alone. Guerin felt they weren't heavy enough and went out to add Reaves while they still had Greenway/Foligno. Greenway has since been traded and it's unclear if they will have the cap space to bring back Reaves. Minnesota is not looking to pile up goals. Guerin believes that the iteration of their team is better this season than last season because they played "playoff hockey" all season. They replaced offence with defence - heavy, "grit first", attention to detail and winning those low scoring 1 goal games. Foligno really fits their identity and the way they want to play. Edited May 3, 2023 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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