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#1 Teemu Selänne

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 07:40 PM

Mats' team (Lorenskog) is on a current three game winning streak.

The two-way center currently is 7th on his team in scoring with 13 points in 21 games. A bit of a step down from a PPG game player for 11 games last year in the Norweigan league. However, he does have 4 points in his last 5 games (16 shots on goal in that time frame, also). He is +4.

He is 53 percent on face-offs.

I believe the next step for Froshaug is to come over to the AHL. He's not quite developed enough to play 3rd line in the SEL, but could benefit from getting 10-12 minutes per game at the AHL level. He's a versatile, as he can play LW or center.

Froshaug to replace Bliznak next year on the Moose would be ideal, I think.

Edited by Thomas Gradin, 25 November 2010 - 07:41 PM.

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 07:59 PM

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 08:01 PM

How old is he?

And I agree, getting used to N.A.'s style of game is important
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Posted 25 November 2010 - 08:11 PM

Who?
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Posted 25 November 2010 - 08:22 PM

I'd love to see Froshaug come over here, if only because he'd be the first Norwegian Canuck ever (I think?), and I have some Norwegian background in me. ;) From what I've heard, he's a pretty solid two-way player, but a longshot to ever crack an NHL roster.
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Posted 25 November 2010 - 08:29 PM

How old is he?

And I agree, getting used to N.A.'s style of game is important


22... but was drafted in 2008, like Hodgson.

Yeah, and a player like Mats might have more success on our ice and our playing style. He's known for his back checking and two-way play, which has more spotlight-time over here.

I'd love to see Froshaug come over here, if only because he'd be the first Norwegian Canuck ever (I think?), and I have some Norwegian background in me. ;) From what I've heard, he's a pretty solid two-way player, but a longshot to ever crack an NHL roster.


Yeah, a very long shot to become a NHL regular. But could end up being a useful call-up for a few years.
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Posted 26 November 2010 - 11:30 AM

good
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Posted 26 November 2010 - 02:13 PM

Nice to hear something about him. He's been a bit of a forgotten/invisible prospect and it's hard to find much being written about him.
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Posted 26 November 2010 - 07:22 PM

7th on the team in scoring in the Norwegian league? Yikes.
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Posted 26 November 2010 - 11:03 PM

<br />7th on the team in scoring in the Norwegian league? Yikes.<br />

This guy is a defensive specialist, he's never going to put up big points.

His ceiling is probably fourth line centre in the NHL, but even that's unlikely. Probably a good third liner for the moose in a couple years.
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Posted 26 November 2010 - 11:06 PM

7th on the team in scoring in the Norwegian league? Yikes.


Yeah, his point production could be better.

But, the Norwegian league is a little underrated, for instance these are some of his teammates:

Dan LaCouture - No NHL stud, but has played 337 games in the NHL. Was a 2nd round draft pick.

Andy Delmore - The AHL super star who has put up 30+ point seasons in the NHL (he's a defenseman, if you didn't know). Has also put up respectable numbers in the DEL.

Zach Parise's brother Jordan is playing in goal for them, too. Never made it to the NHL, but had a good season in the AHL.
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Posted 27 November 2010 - 02:51 PM

Ever since drafting him, I have been a very eager person to hear about Mats. He to me sounds like a very intriging pick becasue Thomas Gradin said to MG to draft this kid.
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Posted 27 November 2010 - 07:24 PM

Ever since drafting him, I have been a very eager person to hear about Mats. He to me sounds like a very intriging pick becasue Thomas Gradin said to MG to draft this kid.


I agree; Gradin's recommendations have always come with a bit of intrigue. And I also think that Froshaug would probably be better served playing in North America - his two-way defensive style of play would fit a lot better here, and plus that would also get him a lot more meaningful minutes. But we won't ever know what his really ceiling is (NHL player? AHL'er?) until we bring him over, so hopefully Gillis gets it done.

He's suffered through these strange illnesses the past couple of years so maybe that's slowed his development a little bit, but he seems to be a smart, heady player and we could always use another guy like that in our system. There's probably more ice-time and responsibility waiting for him here too, allowing him to bring out his potential more than if he just stayed in Europe.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 10:58 AM

Whatever happened to this guy?
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 11:23 PM

Whatever happened to this guy?


To be honest not much...

Doubt he'll be offered a contract this year, as I think we are pretty close to the limit and he doesn't look quite good enough to make the Moose (who have a pretty good line-up). Next year will probably be his last chance (unless GMMG decides to bring him around later solely as an AHL player).

Like I said in the OP, he had 13 points in 21 games, he ended up with 29 in 40 (14 points in his last 19 games) and a 4 points in 8 playoff games.

He is currently set to play for Lorenskog (of the Norweigan League) again next year.

If he had continued his pace when I made this thread (4 points in 5 games), I would think there is a little something to be excited about, as he would have finished with 33 points in 40 games and his defensive game is supposed to really sound by Norweigan League standards.

Anyhow, with how deep the Canucks and Moose are and with Mats' age, I wouldn't really expect him to make the Canucks.
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 01:20 AM

He was drafted in '08 right? So wouldn't that mean we don't hold his rights anymore as it's already been over 2 years since? Or is it different for European players?
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 01:33 AM

Holy frack is that name a blast from the past...
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 01:46 AM

To be honest not much...

Doubt he'll be offered a contract this year, as I think we are pretty close to the limit and he doesn't look quite good enough to make the Moose (who have a pretty good line-up). Next year will probably be his last chance (unless GMMG decides to bring him around later solely as an AHL player).

Like I said in the OP, he had 13 points in 21 games, he ended up with 29 in 40 (14 points in his last 19 games) and a 4 points in 8 playoff games.

He is currently set to play for Lorenskog (of the Norweigan League) again next year.

If he had continued his pace when I made this thread (4 points in 5 games), I would think there is a little something to be excited about, as he would have finished with 33 points in 40 games and his defensive game is supposed to really sound by Norweigan League standards.

Anyhow, with how deep the Canucks and Moose are and with Mats' age, I wouldn't really expect him to make the Canucks.


I'm not sure about your numbers but 4pts in 5 games multiplied by four equals 16pts in 20 games. So, if he started with 13pts in 21gp and finished the year with 29pts in 40gp, my math says he had 16pts in his last 19gp which is fractionally better than 4pts every 5 games. What am I missing here...?
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 06:01 AM

To be honest not much...

Doubt he'll be offered a contract this year, as I think we are pretty close to the limit and he doesn't look quite good enough to make the Moose (who have a pretty good line-up). Next year will probably be his last chance (unless GMMG decides to bring him around later solely as an AHL player).

Like I said in the OP, he had 13 points in 21 games, he ended up with 29 in 40 (14 points in his last 19 games) and a 4 points in 8 playoff games.

He is currently set to play for Lorenskog (of the Norweigan League) again next year.

If he had continued his pace when I made this thread (4 points in 5 games), I would think there is a little something to be excited about, as he would have finished with 33 points in 40 games and his defensive game is supposed to really sound by Norweigan League standards.

Anyhow, with how deep the Canucks and Moose are and with Mats' age, I wouldn't really expect him to make the Canucks.

Not sure what Messier has to do with one of our prospects...
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 04:21 PM

He was drafted in '08 right? So wouldn't that mean we don't hold his rights anymore as it's already been over 2 years since? Or is it different for European players?


I believe we hold their rights until they turn 27.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:42 PM

Frøsh has put up 39 points in 34 games so far this season in the Norwegian league. I'm thinking if he has any interest in coming to North America, it would be next season, since he seems to have reached the top for the level he is at.

Although, he may prefer to play at home, or may be thinking about going back to playing in the SEL if he wants a bigger challenge.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:21 PM

I say keep him in Europe till he's ready for the NHL. The SEL would be a good next step for him IMO.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:25 PM

yep I agree.......if we are following the detriot model we keep him until at least 25 or 26 just like Henrik Zetterberg or Johan Frazen...hopefully he move up into a better league.!
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

Agreed, be patient with him and let him work his way up to the SEL.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:43 PM

He already tried the SEL and couldn't make the grade. Hey, i'm pulling for him, but his NHL future looks bleak.


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Posted 05 February 2012 - 10:48 PM

He already tried the SEL and couldn't make the grade. Hey, i'm pulling for him, but his NHL future looks bleak.


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That's like saying if a kid isn't good enough to make the AHL on his first try he'll never be good enough for that league...
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:08 AM

He already tried the SEL and couldn't make the grade. Hey, i'm pulling for him, but his NHL future looks bleak.


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Yeah, because no player has ever improved over a few seasons?

Tim Thomas & Cliff Ronning say hello.

As does Alex Burrows.

I can't remember how big Mats was last time he played in the SEL, but he is now 6'2/220 pounds. So if size was part of the problem maybe it isn't anymore. But then again maybe it never was.

The fact that he is destroying his point totals from last year and that he is 'known' as a defense-first forward should be a good sign. Hard to gauge how well he is playing though when you never hear/watch things happening in the Norwegian League.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 01:53 AM

I believe he had a serious illness at some point that nearly caused him to quit hockey. Don't quote me on it, but coming back from that kind of injury/illness and having a large improvement while putting on around 20 lbs. is quite impressive. I would be interested to see if he would come over to Chicago or Kalamazoo. He's a big man and is known as one of the Norway league's better two-way centremen.

Edit: Just did some research and that illness was actually an epilepsy-like disease that caused him to miss nearly two seasons. Wow.. and to think that he's playing so strongly now..

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 02:00 AM

I believe he had a serious illness at some point that nearly caused him to quit hockey. Don't quote me on it, but coming back from that kind of injury/illness and having a large improvement while putting on around 20 lbs. is quite impressive. I would be interested to see if he would come over to Chicago or Kalamazoo. He's a big man and is known as one of the Norway league's better two-way centremen.

Edit: Just did some research and that illness was actually an epilepsy-like disease that caused him to miss nearly two seasons. Wow.. and to think that he's playing so strongly now..


Now that's character and dedication. Nothing like persevering through adversity. Best of luck the rest of the way.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

Mats Froshaug scored 26 goals and 27 assists (tied for 3rd-highest on the team), and was +26 in 43 games during the regular season. He has scored 3 goals and 2 assists in 4 playoff games so far (tied for 2nd in points on his team), and has advanced to the semi-finals of the playoffs in the Norwegian league.

I haven't been able to observe Mats beyond statistics, but I hope that he continues to add to his impressive point total.
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