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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:48 PM

I'm sorry guys if this has been already posted but I couldn't find anything on it. But this case actually gives me chills when I read about it, its sickening that there was nothing done about this. I just found out about this today and so far from the facts I found out is that Trayvon Martin who is a black teenager went to &-Eleven to buy some candy when he was spotted by George Zimmerman who is the neighbourhood watch guy. And he called the police claiming Trayvon was acting suspicious and may be under some kind of influence and when the cops told him they'd investigate he said he'd follow him becase I quote "These people get away". George claimed he was confronted by physical assault by Martin and that he shot him in self defence but If you read more about this below or watch released 911 recordings Trayvon was screaming for help and running from him. I just hope Zimmerman get's whats coming to him.


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During a break in an NBA basketball game on TV, Martin left his father's fiance's home in the gated community of Twin Lakes to walk to a nearby 7-Eleven convenience store to buy some candy. While returning to the house, Trayvon was seen by George Zimmerman,[36] who called the Sanford Police Department non-emergency number.
According to phone records provided by T-Mobile,[37] Trayvon was speaking on a cell phone at the time of the incident. Martin's girlfriend came forward, identifying herself as the other person in that conversation; she was interviewed by an attorney, who has made a statement, and her parents have requested her anonymity. The girl said that Martin expressed concern about a "strange man" following him, and she advised him to run. She claims to have heard Martin say "What are you following me for?" followed by a man's voice responding "What are you doing here?" She said that she heard the sound of pushing and that Martin's headset suddenly went silent, leading her to believe that he had been knocked down. She attempted to call him back immediately, but was unable to reach him.[38]
Zimmerman police call

Zimmerman phoned the Sanford Police Department police at the non-emergency number at approximately 7:00 p.m., February 26, 2012.[39] to report Martin’s “suspicious” behavior, which he described as “just walking around looking about.” [40] The police dispatcher tape recorded him saying, "This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something." He further stated that the person he was observing had his hand in his waistband, was holding something in his other hand, and was walking around slowly in the rain looking at houses.[41]
The dispatcher recommended that he not take any action, and informed him that police were on the way. Zimmerman reported that Martin had taken off. The dispatcher asked him if he was in pursuit and he affirmed that he was. The dispatcher informed him that pursuit was not necessary, saying "We don't need you to do that."[42]
A part of what Zimmerman said on the tape is unclear. Some have heard the disputed words as "???? coons", an ethnic slur used against black people, while others suggest it was "clueless", "course", or "punks".[43] Police have now said that they may have missed a potential racial slur on the call.[44]
Police arrival

When the police arrived, they reported finding Martin face-down and unresponsive, with a gunshot wound in the chest. The police report states that they attempted CPR, paramedics arrived and continued CPR, finally declaring Trayvon Martin dead at 7:30 p.m. Statements by the police say Zimmerman had grass on his back and his back was wet. Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and the back of the head; subsequently his lawyer stated that Zimmerman's nose was broken and that wound of the back of his head normally required stitches.[45][46] Zimmerman claimed self-defense, telling police he had stepped out of his truck to check the name of the street he was on, when Martin attacked him from behind as he walked back to his truck. He said he fired the semiautomatic handgun because he feared for his life.[47] Martin was unarmed, and was carrying a bag of Skittles candy and a can of Arizona brand iced tea.[47][48]
A witness to the physical altercation just prior to the shooting stated that Martin was on top of Zimmerman and beating him up, while the older man yelled for help.[49] Another witness, Mary Cutcher, has said in a TV interview that "there was no punching, no hitting going on at the time, no wrestling",[50] but police say that she gave an official account to them that agreed with Zimmerman's story.[51][52] Cutcher and her roommate told CNN journalist Anderson Cooper that their own account of the incident to the police did not agree with Zimmerman's, and that they had demanded that the police retract that incorrect statement. They also said, about the police's attitude at the scene, that "they were siding with him [Zimmerman] from the start" and that they heard the pair in their backyard and a "very young voice" whining, with no sounds of a fight. They heard a gunshot; the crying stopped immediately, and they saw Zimmerman on his knees pinning Martin down on the ground.[53]
The police took Trayvon Martin's body and stored it in a morgue, calling him "John Doe".[54] Martin's family accuses the police of not asking any of the neighbors if they recognized Martin.[55] According to David Horsey, they also did not check his cell phone to find someone he knew.[56]





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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:12 PM

Heard about this incident. LeBron James and Dwayne Wade expressed their displeasure and have asked for justice against the killing. The entire Miami Heat team wore hoodies in a picture with their hoods up, to show their support.

I think that there should be a trial and see what comes out. I don't really believe Zimmerman's story on that the kid attacked him. I think he is most probably guilty, he didn't have to follow the boy, if he hadn't then none of this would have happened.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:05 PM

God bless America...
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:06 PM

The 911 calls were pretty disturbing
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:48 PM

Heard about this incident. LeBron James and Dwayne Wade expressed their displeasure and have asked for justice against the killing. The entire Miami Heat team wore hoodies in a picture with their hoods up, to show their support.

I think that there should be a trial and see what comes out. I don't really believe Zimmerman's story on that the kid attacked him. I think he is most probably guilty, he didn't have to follow the boy, if he hadn't then none of this would have happened.

Mike Tyson is also doing the same. I don't see how Zimmerman can get away scott free, I agree with there needing to be a trial at least.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:01 AM

Two things for certain we can take from this is that it seems Zimmerman had it out for the kid (who by all accounts committed no crime) from the beginning, following him around and he clearly disobeyed and disregarded instructions from the 911 dispatcher, which in the end led to someone being killed.

I listened to the 911 tape and it seems clear to me anyways that this was racially motivated.

Throw the book at him.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:12 AM

Geraldo suggested that Trayvon was killed, in part, because he was wearing a hoodie and he told parents to not let their kids wear them. Something is seriously wrong when, instead of arresting people like Zimmerman, kids are being told not to wear a certain item of clothing.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:32 AM

Two things for certain we can take from this is that it seems Zimmerman had it out for the kid (who by all accounts committed no crime) from the beginning, following him around and he clearly disobeyed and disregarded instructions from the 911 dispatcher, which in the end led to someone being killed.

I listened to the 911 tape and it seems clear to me anyways that this was racially motivated.

Throw the book at him.


Let me make it perfectly clear, im not choosing any sides here, but I like how the media is showing pictures of Trayvon when he was like what? 11-12 years old?? He was 6'3, wearing a hoodie at night, I can see how Zimmerman can mistake him for being older.

The keep making this to be another poor innocent black male being targeted by WHITE racist. First of all, Zimmerman is half latino, so why are they saying this is a white on black crime?? Why cant it just be a crime.

There was an eye witness that said Trayvon was ontop of Zimmerman beating on him before being shot. Now this is just he said she said so take it for what its worth.

My question would be, if this had been an Asian/Latino/white male, would this story be this big?? I already know the answer and that is no.

Also how come this never made national headlines http://www.theblaze....charged-attack/

Edited by Han Damhuis, 25 March 2012 - 11:34 AM.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:33 AM

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:42 AM

I have no faith for the justice system.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:50 AM

Spike Lee releasing Zimmerman's adress

http://www.theblaze....s-home-address/

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:30 PM

I never heard about this until now..

I'm so lost for words. After listening to the 911, my gut screams out "Foul play". I don't believe Zimmerman's story one bit. Trayvon only had skittles and an Arizona tea can with him while Zimmerman was armed with a gun. When Trayvon called his friend, his friend advised him to run away; however, Zimmerman continued to follow him even when 911 told him not too. Zimmerman was looking for trouble and unfortunately, this led to a death of a teen. I can imagine the struggle between Trayvon and Zimmerman especially when Zimmerman pulled out his gun. To me, I feel like Trayvon had to defend himself and thus, this led to reports of witnesses seeing that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman.

My heart goes out to Trayvon Martin's family and friends. IMO, Zimmerman needs to get the book thrown at him.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:48 PM

Agree. Zimmerman's 911 call seems to show intent, before the murder. I't sounded like his mind was already made up to confront the boy with a loaded gun. It wasn't a stand your ground shooting as he chased the boy. Prison cell for one please.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:48 PM

Let me make it perfectly clear, im not choosing any sides here, but I like how the media is showing pictures of Trayvon when he was like what? 11-12 years old?? He was 6'3, wearing a hoodie at night, I can see how Zimmerman can mistake him for being older.

The keep making this to be another poor innocent black male being targeted by WHITE racist. First of all, Zimmerman is half latino, so why are they saying this is a white on black crime?? Why cant it just be a crime.

There was an eye witness that said Trayvon was ontop of Zimmerman beating on him before being shot. Now this is just he said she said so take it for what its worth.

My question would be, if this had been an Asian/Latino/white male, would this story be this big?? I already know the answer and that is no.

Also how come this never made national headlines http://www.theblaze....charged-attack/


Well for one thing, "Latinos" (which are an ethnic group, not a race) along with Middle Easterners as well as South and West Asians are often considered "White" for U.S. ethnic demographic purposes. The other thing is that there is probably more Brown on Black violent hate crimes these days than European-descent on Black, although it may not always considered as such.

The other thing is that for a LONG time up until not all that long ago, there were a lot of questionable killings of Black people that were basically condoned by the Jim Crow legal system, so there's this tendency to overreact when this kind of thing happens now.


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:39 PM

Let me make it perfectly clear, im not choosing any sides here, but I like how the media is showing pictures of Trayvon when he was like what? 11-12 years old?? He was 6'3, wearing a hoodie at night, I can see how Zimmerman can mistake him for being older.

The keep making this to be another poor innocent black male being targeted by WHITE racist. First of all, Zimmerman is half latino, so why are they saying this is a white on black crime?? Why cant it just be a crime.

There was an eye witness that said Trayvon was ontop of Zimmerman beating on him before being shot. Now this is just he said she said so take it for what its worth.

My question would be, if this had been an Asian/Latino/white male, would this story be this big?? I already know the answer and that is no.

Also how come this never made national headlines http://www.theblaze....charged-attack/


I didn't know that being 6'3" and wearing a hoodie at night was a crime.

Did you even listen to the 911 call?
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:50 PM

Well for one thing, "Latinos" (which are an ethnic group, not a race) along with Middle Easterners as well as South and West Asians are often considered "White" for U.S. ethnic demographic purposes. The other thing is that there is probably more Brown on Black violent hate crimes these days than European-descent on Black, although it may not always considered as such.

The other thing is that for a LONG time up until not all that long ago, there were a lot of questionable killings of Black people that were basically condoned by the Jim Crow legal system, so there's this tendency to overreact when this kind of thing happens now.




The guy does not look white at all. He's half Peruvian. Peruvian are ethnically mostly aboriginal and quite dark skinned usually, and no hispanics are not considerEd white for census purposes. Hispanic is not a racial designation. Some are black, some are white, and there's everything in between. He has a German last name, so everyone was assuming he was white. Doesn't make it any less racist though.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:49 PM

Zimmerman won't get away. His face and name and where he lives is out there. If the justice system doesn't give him what he deserves, you can bet there are individuals out there who will take matters into their own hands and then Zimmerman will be wishing that the justice system had taken him in.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:33 AM

Expanding the definition of “cracker,” a t-shirt featuring the photo of the man who shot Trayvon Martin is now available for purchase.




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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:21 AM

Zimmerman won't get away. His face and name and where he lives is out there. If the justice system doesn't give him what he deserves, you can bet there are individuals out there who will take matters into their own hands and then Zimmerman will be wishing that the justice system had taken him in.


http://www.ajc.com/n...er-1398575.html

Black Panthers have put a bounty on his head.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:34 AM

Make an example and throw zimmerman in jail for the rest of his life. Although even that doesn't seem punishment enough to me. Prison is far too good for some criminals. If I'm walking around at night and someone starts to follow me(has happened) even I can be confrontational. The act of "following" is close enough to being considered as "assault" more so than "harassment". Tray had every right to defend HIMSELF if being followed. And zimmermans act of "following" to me could be considered as "premeditation" to the murder specially if asked not to by a 911 operator.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:24 AM

I wonder if any racial militant or prison gang group is going to back Zimmerman? Though he may be too White for the Brown Pride crowd and too Brown for the White priders.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:36 PM

Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”
“His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.
The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”


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Before we convict Zimmerman let all the facts be brought to the table and see the light of day.


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:40 PM

Hey look, another controversy to polarize on.

Ever read "the prince" ?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:38 PM

Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”
“His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.
The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”


Read more: http://dailycaller.c.../#ixzz1qHxV8zGu




Before we convict Zimmerman let all the facts be brought to the table and see the light of day.



Everytime there is a racial issue between a black and white person, Mr. Sharpton and Jesse Jackson spring into action. It's so predictable its not funny. Despite the fact that black on black crime is much more prevalent than interracial crime, there seems excessive reaction when something like this happen.

People seem to forget that everyone is innocent unless proven otherwise. While the 9-11 calls SEEM to indicate premeditated murder, we don't know what happened before the call was made.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:23 PM

He's finally been charged with murder

More than six weeks after he shot and killedTrayvon Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old with no criminal record, George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch coordinator at a small gated community in Sanford, Fla., was charged by a special prosecutor on Wednesday evening with second-degree murder and taken into custody.

The charges, which Mr. Martin’s family praised but called overdue, opened a new chapter in a case that set off a searing national discussion of racial profiling, Florida’s expansive self-defense laws and the fairness of the criminal justice system.
The charges against Mr. Zimmerman were announced by Angela B. Corey, the state attorney for the Jacksonville area, who was appointed as a special prosecutor in the case after the local state attorney stepped aside in the wake of criticism that the case had been moving too slowly. Ms. Corey took pains to praise the local law enforcement officials at a news conference in Jacksonville, and pledged to pursue justice for the Martin family.
Asked about the racial overtones of the case — Mr. Martin, who was black, was shot and killed by Mr. Zimmerman, a Hispanic man who was not immediately arrested by the local police — Ms. Corey said that law enforcement officials were committed to justice for all, regardless of race, gender or background.
“We only know one category as prosecutors, and that’s a ‘V,’ ” Ms. Corey said. “It’s not a ‘B,’ it’s not a ‘W,’ it’s not an ‘H.’ It’s ‘V,’ for victim. That’s who we work tirelessly for. And that’s all we know, is justice for our victims.”
If he is convicted of second-degree murder, Mr. Zimmerman, 28, could face life in prison. It is the toughest charge he could have faced, short of first-degree murder, which would have required a finding of premeditation.
Mr. Martin’s parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, praised the decision to arrest and charge Mr. Zimmerman at an emotional news conference in Washington, where they had been meeting with their lawyers and supporters.
“We simply wanted an arrest,” Ms. Fulton said. “We wanted nothing more and nothing less, we just wanted an arrest. And we got it. And I say, ‘Thank you, thank you, Lord, thank you, Jesus.’ ”
Mr. Zimmerman arrived at the Seminole County Jail around 8:25 p.m. and stepped out of a black S.U.V. in the custody of law enforcement agents.
The killing of Trayvon Martin — who was shot on the evening of Feb. 26 as he returned from buying Skittles and iced tea at a 7-Eleven, bound for the home in a gated community in Sanford, a small city just north of Orlando, where he and his father were guests — incited outrage and protest marches across the country.
Mr. Zimmerman, the founder of the local neighborhood watch, called 911 that evening to report that Mr. Martin looked like “a real suspicious guy.” Some questioned whether Mr. Martin attracted Mr. Zimmerman’s attention simply because he was black. Others were outraged by the slow reaction of the local police and prosecutors, who did not immediately arrest and charge Mr. Zimmerman, saying that Florida’s expansive self-defense law could make it difficult to prove a criminal case against him.
President Obama weighed in on the case at one point, saying, “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” After television commentators suggested that Mr. Martin might have looked suspicious because he was wearing a hooded sweatshirt, people around the country began donning them in solidarity. LeBron James and other members of the Miami Heat basketball team posed in them for a photograph they posted on Twitter. Representative Bobby L. Rush, Democrat of Illinois, even wore one on the floor of the House, saying “Just because someone wears a hoodie does not make them a hoodlum.”
The case drew attention to Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law, which was enacted seven years ago after lobbying by the National Rifle Association, over the objections of many law enforcement officials. The law gives the benefit of the doubt to people who claim self-defense, even if they are not in their homes; it says that people who feel that they are in danger do not need to retreat, even if it would seem reasonable to do so.
In this case, Mr. Zimmerman, who had founded a neighborhood watch over the summer after a string of burglaries in the area, saw Mr. Martin, began following him, and called 911, telling the dispatcher that he appeared “suspicious.”
The dispatcher asked if Mr. Zimmerman was following him. “Yeah,” Mr. Zimmerman said.
“O.K.., we don’t need you to do that,” the dispatcher said. Mr. Zimmerman said: “O.K.”
The case will probably hinge on what happened next.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

I'm not saying that Zimmerman is innocent, but don't believe your tv programming. Editing can do incredible things.



Also why are they showing a picture of Martin when he's like 10? Seems like a pathetic way of making the public jump all over Zimmerman without closely looking at the facts, or whatever you want to call the information that's given to us.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:22 PM

Legal experts were surprised with the 2nd degree murder charge as they expected a manslaughter charge. The prosecuter would have to prove "malice" for a successful prosecution.

My opinion: Fat chance. No way he will be guilty of 2nd degree murder. The prosectuion should have gone for manslaughter.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:28 PM

It looks very political to me, as in, never let a good "crisis" go to waste!

If you ask me its like certain parties jumped behind this case in order to both discredit the idea of regular citizens carrying guns for self defense and to indirectly deflect attention away from the Operation Gunrunner fiasco.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:37 PM

The Chicago Tribune(?) published police reports with eyewitness testimony that said that Martin was on top of Zimmerman before the shooting.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:46 PM

I haven't indulged myself in this case much...aside from random pieces here or there...........but it seems like the mainstream media is doing what ever it takes to get people to fight amongst themselves and not look up to the real threats to humanity...
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