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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:50 AM

Gaunce and a 2nd
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

Gaunce and a 2nd


I'd do it, I'd feel bad doing it as he was just selected in the last draft, but O'Reilly is a fantastic player.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

or Booth+Mallet+2014 2nd

O'Reilly is actually a top 6 player so getting the most out of him would mean playing him in a top 6 role, either him or Kesler on the wing. I have a sinking feeling about booth, injury prone, didnt play much hockey during the lockout-head does not seem to be in the game at times. Also Raymond is looking real good and seems to have a much better shot than booth does.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

I'd do it, I'd feel bad doing it as he was just selected in the last draft, but O'Reilly is a fantastic player.


I would also feel bad doing it
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

I felt bad posting it
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:59 AM

luongo-we pay some of his salary, take none of his caphit
Hansen
Rodin

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JS Giguerre (perfect back up for Cory)
2014 2nd
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:01 AM

for me, hansen has been our least noticeable forward I am just tiered of watching him get chance after chance and him just shooting the puck straight into the goalie's chest or pads.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

for me, hansen has been our least noticeable forward I am just tiered of watching him get chance after chance and him just shooting the puck straight into the goalie's chest or pads.


Hansen is a key forechecker, defensive player and PKer. Has speed. On a fair contract. Can play both wings. One of the few natural RWers. Put up 39 points last year, has 3 points/5 games this year.

His role is not a scorer, but he still puts up a fair amount of points.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

Hansen looked a bit lost in the first few games, but he was fantastic last night. I think he just needed a few games to get in the swing of things. That can happen.

I really don't know if there's a deal to be had with Vancouver. There are other teams without a Kesler who have a glaring need for a player like O'Reilly, and would throw a ton at the Avs to get him.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

or Booth+Mallet+2014 2nd

O'Reilly is actually a top 6 player so getting the most out of him would mean playing him in a top 6 role, either him or Kesler on the wing. I have a sinking feeling about booth, injury prone, didnt play much hockey during the lockout-head does not seem to be in the game at times. Also Raymond is looking real good and seems to have a much better shot than booth does.

When did you see Booth's shot this year to compare Raymonds shot? You didn't.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

For those saying that we could or should get him, you guys are truly wrong. Would it be nice to have him and have 4 awesome centers, Sedin, Kesler, OReilly, Lapierre. YES it would be absolutely awesome! But if he comes here it'll be like a Cody Hodgson situation. O'Reilly is a 2nd line center for sure even 1st on some teams. If he comes to VAN, he will be 3rd line center at best when Kesler returns. I would think he would know that and would not come here because of this.


He also plays wing...

We could have
Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Booth-Kesler-O'Reilly
Higgins-Schroeder-Burrows
Volpatti-Lapierre-Hansen
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

For those saying that we could or should get him, you guys are truly wrong. Would it be nice to have him and have 4 awesome centers, Sedin, Kesler, OReilly, Lapierre. YES it would be absolutely awesome! But if he comes here it'll be like a Cody Hodgson situation. O'Reilly is a 2nd line center for sure even 1st on some teams. If he comes to VAN, he will be 3rd line center at best when Kesler returns. I would think he would know that and would not come here because of this.


He also plays wing...

We could have
Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Booth-Kesler-O'Reilly
Higgins-Schroeder-Burrows
Volpatti-Lapierre-Hansen
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

I could see the Avs trading Stastny first, then offering O'Reilly a real deal. As it stands, they have too much money tied up in 2 centers to break the bank for a 3rd.

Too many centers...nice problem to have!
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:32 PM

I could see the Avs trading Stastny first, then offering O'Reilly a real deal. As it stands, they have too much money tied up in 2 centers to break the bank for a 3rd.

Too many centers...nice problem to have!


Who'd Stastny play with at the 2010 Olympics? I know Kane-Kesler-Brown was a line but I forget who Stastny was with Wasn't he the #1 centre?

If they did move him, I'd think they'd move him to the East. Lupul-Stastny-Kessel? Clarke MacArthur (JVR takes over his spot on the Grabovski-Kulemin line), Colborne (University of Denver) & a pick?
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Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

Boy oh boy, do the Avs miss him.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

No, that's not fair at all.

Ballard holds nearly no value right now, Malhotra has his strengths, but is not worth his cap hit/role since his injury and is an upcoming UFA anyway, plus he has a NTC. Gaunce is a few years way at the very least and the Avs probably want somebody a bit more proven for RO'R, although Gaunce might be PART of a better deal as, the Avs currently have his brother Cameron in their system.

I don't know why people say Ballard has no value........have people ever considered that maybe MG thinks differently and just doesn't WANT to trade him right now? Ballard sure looks like a top 4 dman this season and not many teams have the kind of defence the Canucks do. He would be a top 4 on almost every other team in the league I bet. Would the Avs want him? Despite the fact that they could really use him, probably not. They don't want to pony up the dough for their top center so they probably wont take on a 4.2 million cap hit to trade him to a division rival.

Edited by wallstreetamigo, 31 January 2013 - 10:35 AM.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

I don't know why people say Ballard has no value........have people ever considered that maybe MG thinks differently and just doesn't WANT to trade him right now? Ballard sure looks like a top 4 dman this season and not many teams have the kind of defence the Canucks do. He would be a top 4 on almost every other team in the league I bet. Would the Avs want him? Despite the fact that they could really use him, probably not. They don't want to pony up the dough for their top center so they probably wont take on a 4.2 million cap hit to trade him to a division rival.


I said 'nearly'. Esp. to the AVs, as you suggest.

To some teams he might have some, but as long as he's a 5th defenseman playing 5th defenseman minutes w/a 4.2 million dollar price tag is value isn't going to be too high. Definitely not valuable enough for a guy like O'Reilly.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:48 AM

Why would the avalanche care if they traded with us? They write those games off each year before the season starts anyways. If anything, its good to trade w/ us, it wont affect their standings at all.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:44 PM

Who'd Stastny play with at the 2010 Olympics? I know Kane-Kesler-Brown was a line but I forget who Stastny was with Wasn't he the #1 centre?

If they did move him, I'd think they'd move him to the East. Lupul-Stastny-Kessel? Clarke MacArthur (JVR takes over his spot on the Grabovski-Kulemin line), Colborne (University of Denver) & a pick?


Parise and either Lagenbrunner or Bobby Ryan
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:35 PM

Apparently things have gotten ugly and it's likely that the Avalanche trade O'reilly.

The asking price is reportedly a roster player and a prospect.

So for us it would likely cost Ballard and Gaunce. Ballard because the Avs need D, and Gaunce because he has the potential to be an O'reilly type player in the future; plus they already have his brother in their system.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:41 PM

Apparently things have gotten ugly and it's likely that the Avalanche trade O'reilly.

The asking price is reportedly a roster player and a prospect.

So for us it would likely cost Ballard and Gaunce. Ballard because the Avs need D, and Gaunce because he has the potential to be an O'reilly type player in the future; plus they already have his brother in their system.


DONE!

Throw in Malhotra too as a gift.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

Apparently things have gotten ugly and it's likely that the Avalanche trade O'reilly.

The asking price is reportedly a roster player and a prospect.

So for us it would likely cost Ballard and Gaunce. Ballard because the Avs need D, and Gaunce because he has the potential to be an O'reilly type player in the future; plus they already have his brother in their system.


I think they could get a better deal, and one with sooner dividends than Ballard + Gaunce.

Also, what is your source for this information?
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:20 PM

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As we discussed in Insider Trading initial trade talk has Colorado requesting a roster player and top prospect for O'Reilly. #TSN


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:21 PM


Thanks dude.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

Honestly, I wonder what team doesn't have interest.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:32 PM

I think they could get a better deal, and one with sooner dividends than Ballard + Gaunce.

Also, what is your source for this information?


Maybe. Depends how much value they put on Gaunce. Only the Avs GM knows that.

O'reilly's value has been decreased somewhat by the uncertainty surrounding him. He seems to want a big deal now, and is willing to stay in Russia if he doesn't get it.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

You. Don't. Trade. Ballard.

You want Barker, the worst NHL defenseman last year, to be in your starting line-up? Yeah, sorry that's not going to win you anything. Also, if someone's going to say that LA won with only 1 really good defenseman, they play a team defense. They basically have 5 defenseman on the ice during the playoffs, so yeah.

Trading Ballard will pretty much cost us a run to the cup. New NHL isn't about offense, you can't just go in with the best forwards and have sub-par defenders. It's about quick snipes and playing solid defensively.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:44 PM

We could always pick up a D-man at the trade deadline.

O'reilly would likely give us the best third line in the league. Teams also don't win without elite third lines.

Not that I even said I would make this trade. I only said that is what it would likely cost us based on the pieces we would be willing to give up, and what Colorado would likely want.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:48 PM

We could always pick up a D-man at the trade deadline.

O'reilly would likely give us the best third line in the league. Teams also don't win without elite third lines.

Not that I even said I would make this trade. I only said that is what it would likely cost us based on the pieces we would be willing to give up, and what Colorado would likely want.


O'Reilly wants 5 million +. There is absolutely no place for him on our roster, unless you trade Luongo ASAP. Which still wouldn't be worth it to be honest. We could probably go all in this year, trade the farm and go for O'Reilly, but if you don't win with him on the roster this year, you pretty much just crapped on your team for the next decade lol

EDIT: But then again, i'm all in for a Cup if it means being crappy for a while.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

for me, hansen has been our least noticeable forward I am just tiered of watching him get chance after chance and him just shooting the puck straight into the goalie's chest or pads.


Uhhh, what?
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