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#1 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:52 PM

To Vancouver: Mattias Tedenby

To New Jersey: Billy Sweatt

Both players in similar situations. Tedenbys value really isn't much, (probably something like a 5th value-wise) and Sweatt is redundant for us.

For us: Sweatt has been passed by other players, and our pipeline has alot of projected bottom 6 players. Tedenby is smaller but he has alot of untapped potential. Might fit our system well.

For NJD: Tedenby's value is at an all time low, he doesn't fit NJD's system & is close to being labelled a bust. Though there is skill and upside there, It doubtful he will reach it with NJD, a change could do him very well. This trade would add a prospect in the same situation that fits there system well.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:01 PM

I like it
Not quite sure if they would do it though
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:02 PM

It's funny, strongly recall being so impressed with this little speedster, 1st time I watched him,(couple yrs back). Told my son the Devils hadda' good one there. Why didn't he keep progressing?

One thing's for sure-be careful in dealing with Lamoreillo/Conte(he still their head scout?). They don't seem to make many mistakes.

Devils looked TERRIBLE the yr they drafted Larsson. Here they are once again, instantly rebuilt.
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#4 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:10 PM

I like it
Not quite sure if they would do it though


Went to HF to look into Tedenby and a fan told me a 5th, 6th or project forward. I offered this and another one said they wouldn't be against it. His value just isn't much at all. Extremely close to being labelled a bust and going nowhere in that organization. Could work out for both sides.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:44 PM

Certainly, a pick or two should be added to Sweatt for Tedenby.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:45 PM

Nice proposal,

I like it a lot and it works for both sides
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:10 PM

I like it. Add a low pick with Sweat and NJD would probably be more convinced. I like Tedenby. He's fast, has good hands, but he never got the ice in New Jersey, and I think that stunted him. Give him some ice time in Chicago and I can see him being a Raymnd-esque player with more of a knack for scoring.

Edited by laxgoalie, 11 February 2013 - 11:11 PM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:20 PM

As you might know, I dig a lateral trade of prospects when they are struggling to give them a fresh start. I know the feeling of needing one, however, IMO Tedenby's value to be a bit higher than Sweatt's, so I'm not sure Lou would do it.

From a Canucks perspective, I think they should be all over it.
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#9 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:54 PM

I like it. Add a low pick with Sweat and NJD would probably be more convinced. I like Tedenby. He's fast, has good hands, but he never got the ice in New Jersey, and I think that stunted him. Give him some ice time in Chicago and I can see him being a Raymnd-esque player with more of a knack for scoring.


Its not that he hasnt gotten ice time, its that he hasnt fit in there system, he just cant play in that system, cant play there style of play. He has gotten opportunities he just doesnt work there, he gets handled physically, he needs a more offensive system, that we bring.

Thats why he value is at an all-time low, and thats why he is available for cheap.

As you might know, I dig a lateral trade of prospects when they are struggling to give them a fresh start. I know the feeling of needing one, however, IMO Tedenby's value to be a bit higher than Sweatt's, so I'm not sure Lou would do it.

From a Canucks perspective, I think they should be all over it.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 02:26 AM

I guess it's an alright "swap" type deal. I still think Tedenby has more value, and I don't understand why New Jersey would do it. Tedendy still has a possibility of doing more. Billy Sweatt has reached his upside.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:14 AM

Tedenby is still young, and showed a lot of promise early on as a prospect. Of course Sweatt did too, but not quite to the same degree as Tedenby. Even now, Tedenby is almost 2 years younger, and probably still a slightly better player than Sweatt.
I reckon we would have to throw a little bit more NJs way, perhaps even a mid round pick or another B-list prospect would get the job done.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:48 AM

Like everybody else is saying we would need to put a 3rd or 4th round pick.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:43 AM

I am just wondering what it is about this player that we should cough up ANYTHING for, let alone a 5th? He is small, hasnt lit up the board anywhere he has been. Is he better than the Rodin we already have? Should he be placed ahead of Jansen on the depth chart?

Giving up Sweatty Bill....sure, as a lateral move but I wouldnt offer anything more.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:45 PM

I think this would be a great move. Very gillis like as well. I think we should move billy as he has been passed by others on the depth chart. I wouldn't offer anything more for tedenby but I'd do it to shake up the depth chart and add new competition.

Kinda reminds me of the shirokov duco move. Different circumstances but same philosophy on not letting prospects go to waste.

Good job on thinkin outside the box, smashian.
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#15 Smashian Kassian

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

Everyone thinking we would need to add substantially more.

Look at what young guys like Loktionov, Ellerby and even today. A guy who was once thought of as a blue chipper, went for only a 7th.

Tedenby isn't worth more than either of these guys commanded, this deal valuewise is perfectly fair, he has upside but time is ticking and there is little to no chance he will achieve it in NJD's system he just doesn't fit.


Just take a look at what NJD fans say about him if you think alot more would be needed:

http://hfboards.hock...d.php?t=1334755

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 13 February 2013 - 07:07 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

I think this would be a great move. Very gillis like as well. I think we should move billy as he has been passed by others on the depth chart. I wouldn't offer anything more for tedenby but I'd do it to shake up the depth chart and add new competition.

Kinda reminds me of the shirokov duco move. Different circumstances but same philosophy on not letting prospects go to waste.

Good job on thinkin outside the box, smashian.


Yeah exactly, this one fits both sides, Tedenby is going nowhere in with NJD and Sweatt has been passed and could contribute more elsewhere.

Valuewise it is fair and fits both sides.
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