VanGnome Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 So in all of the posts I have been reading on this board since Roy's acquisition about Roy being a rental, or we can't keep both Booth and Roy etc, etc I felt it prudent to centralize this specific discussion lest someone not see all the numbers line up. Here goes: Sedin (6.100) / Sedin (6.100) / Burrows (4.500) 16.700 Booth (4.250) / Roy (5.000) / Kesler (5.000) 14.250 Jensen (0.894) / Schroeder (1.025) / Kassian (0.870) 2.789 Higgins (2.500) / Gaunce (1.088) / Hansen (1.350) 4.938 38.677 Edler (5.000) / Tanev (1.200) 6.200 Hamhuis (4.500) / Bieksa (4.600) 9.100 Garrison (4.600) / Corrado (0.600) 5.200 20.500 Schneider (4.000) Lack (0.750) 4.750 Cap Ceiling 2013-2014 = 64.300 Cap Hit 2013-2014 = 63.927 Remaining Cap Room: 0.373 The above assumes the following roster moves: Player raises: Pre-NegotiatedAlexandre Burrows: 4.500 AAVAlexander Edler: 5.000 AAVChris Higgins 2.500 AAV ProposedDerek Roy: 5.000 AAV, Term 5 years (4.500 Year 1, 4.500 Year 2, 5.000 Year 3, 5.000 Year 4, 6.000 Year 5)Jordan Schroeder: 1.025 AAV, Term 3 years (100% salary match, RFA Qualification)Chris Tanev: 1.200 AAV, Term 3 years (1.00 Year 1, 1.200 Year 2, 1.400 Year 3) Players on ELC:Nicklas JensenZack KassianBrendan GaunceFrank Corrado Let walk as UFA:Mason RaymondMaxim Lapierre (or re-sign to a short 1-2 year contract worth what he's getting now if Gaunce is not ready) Salary dumps for picks/prospects or amnesty buyouts:Roberto Luongo (5.330 AAV)Keith Ballard (4.250 AAV) Gillis has a lot of flexibility when it comes to next season, I would be content with either of the following scenarios: Cap dump Luongo to Florida for picks and prospects, buyout BallardCap dump Luongo to Florida for picks and prospects, cap dump Ballard for a late pickBuyout Luongo and Ballard if no one bites at allKeep Luongo, trade Schneider for an impact forward for the T6 with equal or less salary coming back (Schneider for Couturier + Picks), Cap dump/buyout Ballard I don't believe that Gillis is willing to give up on Booth just yet, not when he's suffered exceedingly bad luck every time he appears to be rounding the corner and putting together a complete game. I also highly doubt Gillis would have given up KConn and a 2nd in a good draft if he wasn't certain he would be able to re-sign Roy. With all players healthy and playing to potential, this is a very scary, skilled roster from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John.Tallhouse Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 After we win the cup everyones staying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Thats nice , Derek Roy will still be a rental unless he plays unbelievable the next couple weeks and forces Gillis or who ever is running the show at seasons end to find a way to keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 F the cap decrease... wtf is this bull... as soon as canucks become a wealthy organization they put a cap? F the NHL ... All those years I watched Detroit n avs hammer us and we spent half the money they did and now we get screwed because of the cap ... Sorry had to vent. I hate the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 There's a lot of assumptions in there. What if the young guys aren't ready? Also, I'd rather have Raymond at 2.5-3.5 than have Booth at 4.25 Booth will need to go if you want to keep Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 He not going to sign with the Canucks to play on the third line, if like you show he's on the second we will probably resign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Team won't look like that next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 F the cap decrease... wtf is this bull... as soon as canucks become a wealthy organization they put a cap? F the NHL ... All those years I watched Detroit n avs hammer us and we spent half the money they did and now we get screwed because of the cap ... Sorry had to vent. I hate the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 There's a lot of assumptions in there. What if the young guys aren't ready? Also, I'd rather have Raymond at 2.5-3.5 than have Booth at 4.25 Booth will need to go if you want to keep Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 There's a lot of assumptions in there. What if the young guys aren't ready? Also, I'd rather have Raymond at 2.5-3.5 than have Booth at 4.25 Booth will need to go if you want to keep Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 He not going to sign with the Canucks to play on the third line, if like you show he's on the second we will probably resign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Gillis kept Luongo because he thinks he is going to cash in prior to the draft. That marks one full year where Gillis has tried to dump his contract. If I were the owner there is no way I am paying out Ballard and Luo just so the GM can continue on. It is now the draft or bust for Gillis. Don't be surprised if the owners express their opinion should Gillis blow it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The OP just showed us this is not true, not saying he will stay either way just that it is possible, so Booth does not NEED to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendythirteenthrashers Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The NHL will need to add a couple of teams to the league to make up for all the unemployed hockey players that will be floating around with this cap reduction.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'd rather keep Raymond than Booth. Furthermore, I'd rather keep Ballard than Booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topbananas Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I would keep Raymond before Booth all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 So in all of the posts I have been reading on this board since Roy's acquisition about Roy being a rental, or we can't keep both Booth and Roy etc, etc I felt it prudent to centralize this specific discussion lest someone not see all the numbers line up. Here goes: Sedin (6.100) / Sedin (6.100) / Burrows (4.500) 16.700 Booth (4.250) / Roy (5.000) / Kesler (5.000) 14.250 Jensen (0.894) / Schroeder (1.025) / Kassian (0.870) 2.789 Higgins (2.500) / Gaunce (1.088) / Hansen (1.350) 4.938 38.677 Edler (5.000) / Tanev (1.200) 6.200 Hamhuis (4.500) / Bieksa (4.600) 9.100 Garrison (4.600) / Corrado (0.600) 5.200 20.500 Schneider (4.000) Lack (0.750) 4.750 Cap Ceiling 2013-2014 = 64.300 Cap Hit 2013-2014 = 63.927 Remaining Cap Room: 0.373 The above assumes the following roster moves: Player raises: Pre-NegotiatedAlexandre Burrows: 4.500 AAVAlexander Edler: 5.000 AAVChris Higgins 2.500 AAV ProposedDerek Roy: 5.000 AAV, Term 5 years (4.500 Year 1, 4.500 Year 2, 5.000 Year 3, 5.000 Year 4, 6.000 Year 5)Jordan Schroeder: 1.025 AAV, Term 3 years (100% salary match, RFA Qualification)Chris Tanev: 1.200 AAV, Term 3 years (1.00 Year 1, 1.200 Year 2, 1.400 Year 3) Players on ELC:Nicklas JensenZack KassianBrendan GaunceFrank Corrado Let walk as UFA:Mason RaymondMaxim Lapierre (or re-sign to a short 1-2 year contract worth what he's getting now if Gaunce is not ready) Salary dumps for picks/prospects or amnesty buyouts:Roberto Luongo (5.330 AAV)Keith Ballard (4.250 AAV) Gillis has a lot of flexibility when it comes to next season, I would be content with either of the following scenarios:Cap dump Luongo to Florida for picks and prospects, buyout BallardCap dump Luongo to Florida for picks and prospects, cap dump Ballard for a late pickBuyout Luongo and Ballard if no one bites at allKeep Luongo, trade Schneider for an impact forward for the T6 with equal or less salary coming back (Schneider for Couturier + Picks), Cap dump/buyout Ballard I don't believe that Gillis is willing to give up on Booth just yet, not when he's suffered exceedingly bad luck every time he appears to be rounding the corner and putting together a complete game. I also highly doubt Gillis would have given up KConn and a 2nd in a good draft if he wasn't certain he would be able to re-sign Roy. With all players healthy and playing to potential, this is a very scary, skilled roster from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzY Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Gillis doesnt like rentals and ive always liked booth, just bad luck with injuries.. Good post OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 AV would have a stroke if Jensen, Schroeder, Kassian, Gaunce, and Corrado all made the team at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I don't think having gaunce play 4th line minutes helps his NHL development out at all. I'd rather have him in the minors and Lappy. Also higgins at signing 2.5 extension to play on the 4th line doesn't make sense either, as much as I like booth I think it would be better to offload his contract and fill in some of are other holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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