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Before the season I predicted the Lu fans would try to get the fans to rally against Schneider as if that would justify their favourite player on the team having some bad playoff games.

There is nothing wrong with defending Lu if you like him, but trashing on Cory is exactly like those that want Kassian to fail because they miss Hodgson so much. If you can't see Schneider is an awesome goalie by now, then you never will.

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As big a fanboy I am of Luongo, every goalie says this after a bad game. Sure he didn't play well in the key pressure moments and he's right - he played well when it didn't really matter (1st and 2nd) and played horribly when the game is on the line (start of the 3rd period tied).

Cup winning goalies aren't consistently good goaltenders - they're clutch guys who make key saves at key times. No goalie has played a perfect 20-something games during their cup run, even Tim Thomas was lit up against Montreal and Tampa Bay, but he posted the big games when it matters most.

Right now, Luongo is far better than Schneider at playing well WHEN it matters most. He's just simply better adjusted to the pressure of the NHL because of experience, Schneider will too but it'll take time.

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schneider having the flu threw him off his game. lets hope he can find it the next few games.

however experience has told us that he recovers his game best when he takes a game (or 2) off. AV doesn't learn from history though ;)

However: Please be aware people that recovering from the FLU - COMPLETELY - is probably 2 weeks. JUST in time for the playoffs, or thereabouts... He is still a bit off from being sick, he is not 100% yet.

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man, this thread makes me so angry.

if you listened to his post game interview and weren't such a meathead you'd be able to see that he was obviously very upset over a loss that was both his fault and the team's and that's exactly what he said! the total opposite of sugarcoating!!!

he said (1) I've got to make some of those saves to keep us in it and/or keep it close and (2) he said that the team in front of him played carelessly, sloppy hockey and were not hard on the puck and did not finish their plays. and he is 100% right!

he was clearly frustrated about the loss when he was slamming his stick skating off the ice. he was clearly still frustrated in the dressing room by and he should be! he owned his loss, and told it like it was. like a true professional who takes pride in his work and is frustrated when he feels like himself and the team are performing well below their potential.

the fact that a loss like tonight which was clearly a team loss becomes a story about the goalie disgusts me. he let in some softies but he was also left high and dry tonight by some awful turnovers by the team in front of him. the loss reflects on every canuck that dressed tonight, not just one. they lost as a team, will bounce back as a team. there's nothing wrong with what schneider said, in fact, someone needed to say exactly what he did say, the canucks have to be better. period. no excuses, especially this late in the season.

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I've said this in many threads. For the record, I am a big Luongo fan and I believe he should be the starter.

That being said, tonight was not Schneider's fault. The team played terrible in front.

I hated seeing Luongo being blamed for the team's breakdowns, and I hate seeing it with Schneider now.

Of course he's gonna own up to it - he's supposed to be the last line of defense. But at times, it seemed like he was our only line of defense - and this happened with Luongo too many times as well. And IMO this is the burden that falls on the starting goaltender of this team since Luongo exceeded expectations in 2007.

Luongo was an elite, one-of-a-kind super goaltender when he arrived in 2007. But since his injury, and as he aged, he is no longer that. Schneider nor the current Luongo will never be what Luongo was in 2007 where he literally bailed us out and won games like these over and over again.

Vancouver somehow has gotten to expect that 2007 performance out of its starting goaltenders now. No defensive breakdown is the team's fault - it is the goaltender's for not stopping the puck.

Tonight was not Schneider's fault. If Luongo was in net, it could have been worse, or it could have been not as bad. It would not have been better. What I mean by this is that, with Luongo, we could have lost 8-1 (worse) or we could have lost 3-1 (not as bad), but never better (as in a win). Either way, with the way the team played, we would have lost the game.

No matter how elite your goaltender is, a game like this is not won unless you have a generational talent in their prime. We still have two terrific goaltenders. We've essentially run one out of town by this season's end - let's not run the other one out of town.

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Schneider is not what ails this team and Gillis is going to turf Luongo the moment he can land a desperate GM with a goaltending emergency.

Luo is going to have to show his worth elsewhere next year cuz all he is going to get is minimal minutes bar a complete Schneider meltdown.

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As big a fanboy I am of Luongo, every goalie says this after a bad game. Sure he didn't play well in the key pressure moments and he's right - he played well when it didn't really matter (1st and 2nd) and played horribly when the game is on the line (start of the 3rd period tied).

Cup winning goalies aren't consistently good goaltenders - they're clutch guys who make key saves at key times. No goalie has played a perfect 20-something games during their cup run, even Tim Thomas was lit up against Montreal and Tampa Bay, but he posted the big games when it matters most.

Right now, Luongo is far better than Schneider at playing well WHEN it matters most. He's just simply better adjusted to the pressure of the NHL because of experience, Schneider will too but it'll take time.

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As big a fanboy I am of Luongo, every goalie says this after a bad game. Sure he didn't play well in the key pressure moments and he's right - he played well when it didn't really matter (1st and 2nd) and played horribly when the game is on the line (start of the 3rd period tied).

Cup winning goalies aren't consistently good goaltenders - they're clutch guys who make key saves at key times. No goalie has played a perfect 20-something games during their cup run, even Tim Thomas was lit up against Montreal and Tampa Bay, but he posted the big games when it matters most.

Right now, Luongo is far better than Schneider at playing well WHEN it matters most. He's just simply better adjusted to the pressure of the NHL because of experience, Schneider will too but it'll take time.

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It depends on whether he shows it or not in his play.

If he says it's my fault and then just goes out and puts little effort in to getting better in the future then I see the statement as just about meaningless. But Schneider has done well this year and worked hard to be good so I like it.

I think OP you are reading more into it than what's there. Even if you don't like the way he says it I think he's trying to do the right thing.

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If not for some contractual obligation, they (players) probably wouldn't say anything at all. I don't really need to hear that he needs to be better. The post game interview is a tradition that is laced with dumb questions that only reveal the obvious.

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I don't understand why people laud Schneider for saying stuff like this. He's always called a "class act" and "great media guy" and "selfless and modest" and "takes responsibility" when he says things like that on the media.

While it's leaps and bounds better than throwing other guys under the bus, and while it may pass once or twice, does it not get irritating to hear that, the 4th, 5th, 6th time? This is not the first time Schneider conceded several goals this season, and I'm not knocking his play, he has been generally excellent, but I'm just at a loss as to how anyone can actually say this guy is such a great "team guy".

That statement, to me, sounds like a politically correct way of saying, "I didn't do my job." It's sugarcoated, and it's a way of lying to the public, about how he f***ed it up tonight by not playing like the elite goaltender that replaced Roberto Luongo.

Once again, this is not a knock on his performance tonight. Everyone's bound to have a bad game once in a while. What I am asking is, does that statement really sound good to you? It honestly is worse than what Luongo says. The guy just states the situation and stops. No self-criticism, no self-blame, no signs of bitter disappointment at his own performance, just a well-rehearsed line that we've heard too many times.

The guy seems to be getting a little egotistical - we saw this near the end of last year when he became impatient with his backup role, as though he had the right to replace Luongo. It's turning into a rant - but do you agree? Does Schneider really deserve to get away with saying things like that?

Edit: Do people know how to read...? How many times do I actually have to say that this isn't about how he played tonight, or how the team played tonight?

Here: THIS IS NOT ABOUT HIS PERFORMANCE OR ANYBODY ELSE'S

To Deb: How so? How is saying that putting the blame on his shoulders? First of all, there's a fault distribution inaccuracy - everyone is assuming Schneider is more or less free of blame and is "taking everyone else's faults". Is this Jesus or something?

Secondly, the statement itself is the weakest and most empty sentence I have ever heard. Nothing could provoke less sympathy for the guy. I personally don't believe he should take more than a bit of the blame, but regardless, people on CDC have this messed up mentality. "I should have stopped those shots" is NOT an acceptable response. And it's not a matter of blaming one's self or not. I am only looking at the statement itself. It is simply an arrogant and empty thing to say.

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Again and again I am seeing a double standard from Canucks fans. We wouldn't have made it to game 7 of the finals had Luongo not dragged the team to victory in 3 of the 6 playoff games. Yet, everyone blames him only for the losses. Whenever Schneider has a bad loss fans always refer to one of the following:

-Schneider having a win streak in the past

-Defence/forwards making errors (giveaways etc)

-Team not playing well in front of him

Has the above not happened to Luongo many more times in the past? Yet many fans can't seem to resist from blaming Luongo for our loss in the finals.

Anyways, although I don't think that this comment from Schneider really means much, I am happy he said this instead of what Luongo says after he gets blown out. I believe that one advantage that Schneider has over Luongo is that he handles the media better and doesn't give controversial answers to reporters.

Good luck next game Canucks

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Not a big deal what he said. Although I do get the vibe from Schneider he really just plays for himself and cares about his performance and that is it.

Luongo definitely seems more of a team a guy and wants to win for this team and city still and the guys have more fun with him. Just what I think.

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Am I missing something? He took the blame off the players and put it on himself. Even though the loss wasnt on him? What the heck man , seriously I agree with the guy who said this is one of the dumbest posts EVER!! I am literally at a loss for words right now. A player mans up and accepts responsibility and its not even on him yet thats egotistical ?????

Cory is amazing!!!! GO CANUCKS GO

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Not a big deal what he said. Although I do get the vibe from Schneider he really just plays for himself and cares about his performance and that is it.

Luongo definitely seems more of a team a guy and wants to win for this team and city still and the guys have more fun with him. Just what I think.

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