5nothincanucksohno Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I wanted to write this post (1) because I have been pleasantly surprised by the team this year (work ethic and development of key prospects) and (2) because it has felt like there have been a couple of seasons within the 2018/2019 season. I decided to break the season into five groups with a main focus on two factors (1) disparity between home vs. away games and (2) games where either one of Tanev/Edler or both missed games. There is clearly heavy lifting yet to do with this team (in terms of turning it into a Cup contender) but I do see positive signs despite the doom and gloom view held by some. *Note: I ignored loser points and just focused on wins and loses - I did this because I wanted to analyze the team based on how close they are to being a legit playoff contender and the potential they have with respect to becoming a Cup contender. Long story short, good teams win games. 2018/2019 Season Stats Games Played to date: 65 Games Edler GP: 39 Tanev GP: 53 Record: 27 wins vs 38 loses (14 - 16 at home & 13 - 22 away) Goal Differential: 32 one goal games (12 wins and 20 loses) Total Goals For: 180 (24th in the league) Total Goals Against: 203 (19th in the league) Seasons Within the 2018/2019 Season 10 Games: Game 1 to Game 10 (Oct 3 - 24 or 22 days) Edler and Tanev played all 10 games Record: 6 wins vs 4 loses (2 - 1 at home & 4 - 3 away) Location: 3 Home vs. 7 Away (2.2 days per game) Goal Differential in Wins: 4 by one goal, 2 by three goals Goal Differential in Loses: 1 by two goals, 3 by three goals Total Goals For: 30 Total Goals Against: 31 Variance: -1 15 Games: Game 11 to Game 29 (Oct 25 - Nov 23 or 29 days) Edler played zero games and Tanev played 10 games Record: 4 wins vs 11 loses (3 - 3 at home & 1 - 8 away) Location: 6 Home vs. 9 Away (1.93 days per game) Goal Differential in Wins: 1 by one goal, 1 by two goals, and 2 by three goals Goal Differential in Loses: 5 by one goal, 3 by three goals, 2 by four goals, and 1 by 5 goals Total Goals For: 43 Total Goals Against: 61 Variance: -18 26 Games: Game 30 to Game 51 (Nov 24 - Jan 23 or 61 days) Edler and Tanev played all 26 games Record: 13 wins vs 13 loses (7 - 6 at home & 6 - 7 away) Location: 16 Home vs. 10 Away (2.34 days per game) Goal Differential in Wins: 6 by one goal, 4 by two goals, 3 by four goals, and 1 by five goals Goal Differential in Loses: 7 by one goal, 1 by two goals, 2 by three goals, 1 by four goals, and 1 by 5 goals Goals For: 74 Goals Against: 69 Variance: 5 NINE DAY BREAK 14 Games: Game 52 to Game 65 (Feb 2 - Feb 28 or 26 days) Edler played three games and Tanev played 7 games Record: 4 wins vs 10 loses (2 - 3 at home & 2 - 7 away) Location: 5 Home vs. 9 Away (1.86 days per game) Goal Differential in Wins: 6 by one goal, 4 by two goals, 3 by four goals, and 1 by five goals Goal Differential in Loses: 7 by one goal, 1 by two goals, 2 by three goals, 1 by four goals, and 1 by 5 goals Goals For: 33 Goals Against: 42 Variance: -9 17 Games Remaining: Game 66 to Game 82 (March 3 - April 6) Edler played ___ games and Tanev played ___ games Record: Location: Goal Differential in Wins: Goal Differential in Loses: Goals For: Goals Against: Variance: Will be interesting to see how well they do over the last 17 games...especially if Tanev returns to the line-up soon (and Hughes joins the club). Key Takeaways - The schedule has been tough (30 home games and 35 away games to date) but the young players have fared well considering. Disjointed schedule likely played a role in the rash of injuries at specific times. - When playing games at a rate of two or less days per game, they struggle. - When Edler/Tanev or both are not in the line up the team struggles. - When they have a stable D core in place, they have been competitive. None of the above is ground breaking but it would be interesting to see how drastically the analytics play out with respect to the above groups. It could provide a more accurate picture of what the team could be if they add a few players and work with the league to plan a more stable schedule. Key Adjustments and Team Goals For Next Year - The team played hard this year and need to maintain that level of work ethic - The team needs to tighten up Team Defense (including puck movement/support on breakout) - The team needs to push each dman down a spot (except for Edler). See below line-up. - The team needs to improve the PP. Hughes should help but they need more movement e.g. have Hughes and Pettersson switch during play to open up lanes and generate open shots. Team Next Year: - Add a legit top six scorer on LW (could potentially come from internal development) - Add a legit top pairing dman on the right side...this is likely a pipe dream but they should explore trade and UFA market. - Continue to allow prospects to push for spots and earn them if they outplay vets. Goldy/xxx - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson/xxx - Horvat - Leivo Roussel - Gaudette - Virtanen Eriksson - Beagle - Motte Others Forwards: Baer, Sutter, Granlund, Spooner Edler - xxx Hughes - Tanev Hutton - Stetcher Other Dmen: Juolevi, Biega, Sautner, Schenn, Brisebois, Markstrom Demko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: - When playing 2 or less games per day, they struggle. So, we should never play two games per day is what yer sayin'........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Fanuck said: So, we should never play two games per day is what yer sayin'........ Correct haha good catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 We’ve been a competitive team for the most part when we were healthy, but injuries are what did us in. This is how I’d have the roster going into the summer: xxxx - Pettersson - Boeser Leivo - Horvat - Virtanen Pearson - Gaudette - xxxx Roussel - Beagle - MacEwen/Motte Motte/MacEwen Edler - xxxx Hughes - Stecher xxxx - xxxx Sautner, Schenn Markstrom Demko Out: Sutter, Eriksson, Granlund, Tanev, Pouliot, Hutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigmund.Palffy Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Pears said: We’ve been a competitive team for the most part when we were healthy, but injuries are what did us in. This is how I’d have the roster going into the summer: xxxx - Pettersson - Boeser Leivo - Horvat - Virtanen Pearson - Gaudette - xxxx Roussel - Beagle - MacEwen/Motte Motte/MacEwen Edler - xxxx Hughes - Stecher xxxx - xxxx Sautner, Schenn Markstrom Demko Out: Sutter, Eriksson, Granlund, Tanev, Pouliot, Hutton Id Put Pearson with Horvat Jake on 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samgagner'sface Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Where's goldobin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 The biggest problem of the defensive core is the overreliance on Edler and Tanev. Both are two of the most injury prone defensemen in the league. Once they get hurt, the entire D crumbles, which happens year in and year out. Adding Hughes, the continued emergence of Hutton/Stecher, and bolstering the defense through trade or free agency will be key for the Canucks. If one of those three options don't pan out, I don't see the team making the playoffs next year. Tanev needs to be the #5 or #6 guy on the team now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Darkstar said: The biggest problem of the defensive core is the overreliance on Edler and Tanev. Both are two of the most injury prone defensemen in the league. Once they get hurt, the entire D crumbles, which happens year in and year out. Adding Hughes, the continued emergence of Hutton/Stecher, and bolstering the defense through trade or free agency will be key for the Canucks. If one of those three options don't pan out, I don't see the team making the playoffs next year. Tanev needs to be the #5 or #6 guy on the team now. Or are they the most injured because of our over reliance on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 41 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Or are they the most injured because of our over reliance on them? I don't think so. Edler has only had one full season played in his entire career, and Tanev has only played more than 70 games once. This is even when the defensive core was more balanced. They are expected to get hurt whether they play 5 minutes, or 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 well i have a much more simplistic take on the last 3 seasons and the nucks the season really counts after christmas from around mid January till the last 5 or so games of the season that is when all the better teams become focused, play harder and more disciplined the canucks always falter during that stretch the nucks simply are unable to elevate their game during this time frame injuries are a factor, but other teams have injuries and still compete to me it is all about mature talent the nucks lack that . but their talent is maturing it will take time still the other general take is the drafting record of this team lacked overall strategic planning d take longer to mature so i fail to understand why we focused on drafting offensive players first and only are getting around to drafting d more recently by the time our young d are fully developed and in their prime we will be needing to rebuild our offense so unless part of the plan was to invest in ufa dmen . and pay that higher salary cost or to trade top flight offensive players that fans have invested in (a good d will cost us a top young center) the approach is somewhat flawed who the heck is going to get the puck from our back end to our young talent up front? we lack those d in our system.. and hughes, if he does pan out, which will take some time, can only play so many minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, WalkWithElias40 said: Id Put Pearson with Horvat Jake on 3rd I was thinking about that but I’d prefer Leivo with Horvat just a little more than Pearson right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 Iain MacIntyreVerified account @imacSportsnet More #Canucks are 21-14-4 in games started with both Alex Edler and Chris Tanev healthy, and 8-18-5 when one or both is out of the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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