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11 hours ago, HorvatToBaertschi said:
Anybody watch him play that can talk about his red hot start in Abbotsford?
Pederson has only player 8 games lets see how he is after 25-30 games
As for people posting about Studnicka 23, 6'1 - RW/ C 185 lbs Boston drafted 2nd round but was never given a shot with depth with Boston.
Canucks hockey people feel there is a good upside and need to give this young guy a good look..
Studnicka look okay playing 4th line..
1. Karlsson - Dries - Lockwood - Dowling - Baines -- Pederson
I would say Pederson is behind 5- 6 Abby Canucks
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3 hours ago, Alflives said:
Love to make a proper rebuilding trade like suggested here. But we have an owner who isn’t interested in taking a step back. Look for Pageau and Mayfield coming our way.
Yeah I don't won't either Pague or Mayfield..
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13 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said:
Yes, I think
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Bolduc
2022 -1st
Wahlstrom
Would be a deal I would go for...................
I think that is getting close, NYI giving up 3 young players with 1st rounder...
Wahlstrom-- 22--6'2 LW/C == Bolduc 22- 6'4 -LD -- 2nd rounder 2023 -- Bailey 33 LW 2 X 5 million
Miller 29 -----Rathbone 23
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20 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:
I just hope Allvin doesn't get schooled by Lamoriello.
Horvat is a primo centreman, and taking back a late 1st (pick 20+) and some scraps would be unacceptable. The Canucks need a Top 4RD. Certainly not Josh Bailey.
Dobson or Mayfield have to be included in the return, otherwise why make the deal with the Islanders?
Dobson will be in no deal! Dobson 23 -- 6'4 - RD - 53 points -2021-22 ---untouchable
Romano 22--6'1 LD/RD 3X 2.5 mil ---- Whalstrom 22- ELC 900,000
Miller 29 5.2 million. -- Rathbone 900,000- Canucks retain 1.5 of Miller contract this season only
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6 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:
I just hope Allvin doesn't get schooled by Lamoriello.
Horvat is a primo centreman, and taking back a late 1st (pick 20+) and some scraps would be unacceptable. The Canucks need a Top 4RD. Certainly not Josh Bailey.
Dobson or Mayfield have to be included in the return, otherwise why make the deal with the Islanders?
I know you have to be kidding about Vancouver getting Dobson 23 - 6'3 - RD 52 points last season..
Never getting Dobson unless-- Canucks are sending a package back?
Horvat or Miller - ( Hoglander - Rathbone..
NYI won't be in the Mix.
I think Columbus or LA Kings
Peeke - 6'3 - 24 -RD - plays 20--24 mins -- Roslovic 25- C -6'2 --- 22 G -- 44 PTS 2020-21-- 3rd rounder 2023
Miller or Horvat --- Rathbone 23
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On 11/13/2022 at 11:38 AM, RayCathode said:
Thanks for referencing the article, Fred, great read.
Ty Young looked good in net last night stopping 21- 22 shots. Bright future only 18 and has size 6'3 moves fast..
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3 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said:
A young center to replace Bo or Miller once traded. Makes sense age wise and can PK.
He would never replace Horvat or Miller.. Jost 13th or 14th player at best look at his stats going to be 25 in March..
Big Big No... Rather develop young forward we already have...
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7 minutes ago, EddieVedder said:
you must be new to hockey.
Canucks don't want Jost 4th line player 2 million I would rather use Lockwood.. Canucks are behind Ducks so wait until a better player becomes available. Jost 13th or 14th player so big pass...
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6 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said:
yeah but if we are tearing it down, why do we want that player and dollar figure?
Exactly Canucks would want to have cap room like Arizona,Buffalo, Ducks.. Take on some bad contracts but you get young prospects or high picks to take on contracts...Dickinson deal example - 2nd rounder - Dickinson --- Van Stillman # 6 LD
Chicago win that deal..
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Just now, JM_ said:
I'm talking in a tear down scenario here.
I don't think Canucks will make full tear down..
Canucks will keep - Demko 26-- Hughes 22-- Petey23 -- Podkolzin 21- Mikheya -- (1 -Horvat 27 or Miller 29)
Boeser or Garland -- I would trade Boeser
Hoglander 21- great speed I would be in no rush to move him..
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Just now, Harold Drunken said:
You're missing the point, they obviously wouldn't be trying to get better by trading Myers. They are trying to gain cap flexibility and offload a heavy contract. If we trade Myers or OEL etc. it's not with the intention of getting better or making a playoff push it's because we are finally realizing this core won't compete and they are starting over or looking at the off season, not the post season.
Who knows what direct new management is going to go? I really don't think ownership or Rutherford want a complete rebuild he signed a 3yr contract and almost been here 1 yr now..
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12 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:
I could see something like:
to CBJ - (C) Bo Horvat and (LD) Jack Rathbone
to VAN - (C) Jack Roslovic, (LD/RD) Jake Bean and 4th
I could see Roslovic 25 - 6'1 C -- Peeke 25 RD- 6'3 -- 20--23 min -- 3rd rounder 2023
Horvat - C - Rathbone 23 -LD
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Peeke 24 - RD - 6'3 - 20--23 minute guy -- ELC 875,000 - then 3 yrs X 2.7 million
Roslovic 25 - C - 6'1 -- GP 48--- 34 points 2019-20. ---- 2020-21 GP 81 - 22 G - - 45 points. ---- 2 yrs x 4 million
3rd rounder 2023
Vancouver
Horvat 27 - C
Rathbone 23 -LD
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7 minutes ago, wildcam said:
Vancouver trade Myers and have no replacement for the big RD man that plays against other team best forwards 20--22 mins.
Serious big hole to fill without Myers in the lineup. Management seen what happened when Myers miss 3 games at start of the season.
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Vancouver trade Myers and have no replacement for the big RD man that plays against other team vest forwards 20--22 mins.
Serious big hole to fill without Myers in the lineup. Management seen what happened when Myers miss 3 games at start of the season.
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42 minutes ago, davidgoliath said:
Best wishes to Podz on a gritty response to the thug, Greer.
I hope some Canuck will take appropriate measures to avenge this.
However, since management has not filled the role of defender for the team, it is not likely to happen. The usual bs from what is basically a soft team. Frankly, I’m sick of it.
Miss the tough teams Vancouver use to have Brashear days, Odjick days and there were several other players that would take charge..
We have Schenn 6'2 - 225 -- Joshua 6'3 - 215 .... Team toughness maybe 3.5/10
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7 hours ago, Viper007 said:
When are you suppose to get good returns for those 3 players?? Right before they hit UFA? That isn't going to happen. At the TDL? Well we got Toffoli for the playoff run. So that's 1 person out, the other 2 well, if we're trading players to help with the playoff stretch, I'm sure there wasn't going to be a reason to actually trade them at the TDL. So again, when can they be traded for good returns, because you're not going to get a lot for pending UFAs right before they hit free agency.
Horvat is a great example..He should of been signed before season started?
Can you imagine hearing president talk on radio about the player? Rutherford needs to stop going verbal about the coach..This has happened at least 3 times now... Players like Bruce..
Rutherford saying we will try and sign Horvat but his great start only help his trade stock value???
I bet Bo Horvat is leaving this team come this summer.. I can only imagine how he feels and this wife and parent will be the only people he vents with..
Love Bo Horvat playing so good.. Like Horvat style #2 centre on any team and #1 centre on a few teams..
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3 minutes ago, Odjick 4 Premier said:
Canucks have been looking to replace Tanev since he left and still looking last time I checked for a shutdown RHD
Also he chose to go because ownership turned off the money to resign him and didn't even get an offer from the Canucks so I find your "story" hilarious that he chose the Flames and for that Canucks don't need him?
Thank god you don't run the team
Canucks offer 1.7 million ? Flames offer 4 million what would you do?
His career turned around as in less injuries and last 2 yrs Tanev has be very very good..
Sure hope we don't let assets walk anymore..
Tanev - zerso return
Markstrom - zero return
Taffoli -- zero return
Can't let top players like this walk.These 3 players should of brought good returns.
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2 hours ago, Alflives said:
We should build around Demko. The guy is top five in the league.
Down to studs have to keep foundation-- Demko -- Hughes -- Petey-- Horvat...
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3 hours ago, spook007 said:
Yes, but are we expecting to challenge in the next 2-3 years?
If not, it doesn't really matter, does it? if its more than 3 years then Bo will be 32-33 and Miller 33-34, so this is probably the time to take stock, about witch direction we are going to take...
I don't like to tear it down neither, but its hard to watch this team struggle like this, and then another step forward followed by a step back... going nowhere...
If they think they can be competitive and really want to move one of those two players, it has to be Miller all day long... Bo may not be a no.1 (although atm he plays like one), but he is a good 2nd line C, and we have nobody to replace him.
Breaking it totally down now, will give us good opportunities to start the rebuild with a class draft (as per 'experts')... and in 3-4 years they should become relevant again. Draisaitl and McD were drafted in 14 and 15 so that give a kind of a time frame for when draftees should be able to carry a team... so likely 5-6 years from their are drafted, maybe less if surrounded by good players, but most likely 5-6 to be consistently expected to make the play offs...
So what to do.... the next McD is probably the top prize, or carry on hoping for players to improve enough to get us into the playoffs. Love the players...always have and always will, but losing sucks...
I think Vancouver will be in trouble if they try full rebuild.. Have to do rebuilds like Jeff Gordon can do..This guy knows how to build teams look how he drafted and built NYR..Now he will do the same with Montreal...
Drafting in top 10 is a lottery.. Hieschier 1st O/A -- Petey #5 -- Bayfield #2 O/A other players drafted later are doing much better..
Turcotte #5 - No NHL impact -- Cozen #7 okay -- Zegras #9 Star
I don't think Petey will resign if he knows Vancouver in having rebuild.. Then team will be at bottom of standings as other poster have already said trade Miller and Horvat..
This would be a mess for many years...
Trade 1 - Miller or Horvat -- Hope to get younger RD under 26 say # 3 RD can play 18--22 mins -- ( Prospect -- 2nd round pick)
trade 1 - Boeser or Garland -- Stay at home D man guy that can play 18--20 mins, under 27
Get some good D men will make a big difference
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47 minutes ago, smithers joe said:
i'ld still do it. even if takes moving both miller and horvat, to turn us around, i'ld go for it. a step back now, for a stride forward in our future.
OMG, you can never move both Miller and Horvat?? Finding top centre men are as hard as finding RD men.. Vancouver would then be looking to find a # 2 centre? 1. Petey 2. ___ 3. ___ 4. Lazar-- Aman
Trade Miller get best deal you can and move on..
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25 minutes ago, Lumme21 said:
Vancouver clearly missed an opportunity last year to rebuild by trading Miller, Horvat, Garland, Boeser etc at last years trade deadline. Clearly, we can't miss another opportunity to trade these pieces to get future assets to build a contender around, but I also believe we can't afford to wait until the TD. The trade value for Horvat in particular may never get better. By trading pieces now we help our chances to bottom out (tank) in one of the strongest drafts ever.. If we wait, teams looking to unload UFA's will take advantage of our management not wanting to make a bold move and we will be left on the sideline yet again. Getting business done now will help us secure a top 5 pick and a potential franchise piece such as Beddard, Michkov, Fantilli or Benson before players like Toews, Kane, O'Reilly and Teresenko flood the market.
Another advantage of getting business done early would be the opportunity for management to clearly present a believable plan to the fan base to make this team a contender again, however I fear we will just move Schenn at the TD (similar to Motte last year) and continue to be sold the 'retool on the fly' BS.
No rush Bo Horvat value is really going up..Horvat 27, C -6'0--215 lbs solid 200 foot game 58% in face off-- PP - PK
play 20--22 mins would fit in with so many teams ready to contend.. One would be LA kings and they have lots of great prospects under 23..
Toews 34 C -- Kane 32 W -- Teresenko 30 W .. Team will be way more interested in trade for Horvat over other players mentioned..
I would rather move Miller then Horvat..
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5 hours ago, Claiborne55 said:
How about this...
Vancouver 2023 Unprotected 1st to the L.A. Kings for Brandt Clarke and L.A. Kings 2023 2nd round pick.
The draft is a gamble anyways...so who says no?
yes yes for NYR Schneider 6'2 - 215 stay at home RD would like him in Vancouver..
Clarke 6'2 RD my second choice.. Both are type of D men we need.
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4 hours ago, Claiborne55 said:
Canucks Brock Boeser and Jonathan Lekkerimäki to New York Islanders for Ryan Pullock and Islanders 2023 2nd round pick.
Pullock 28 -6'2 , 215 avg 6o games per season over lat 3 years----for Boeser but not Lekeimaki 15th overall no no never !
Pullock ---- Boeser
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Riley Stillman | #61 | D
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Burroughs Should be playing #6 guy beside Myers. Burr also adds lots of grit..
Hughes #1- Schenn #5
OEL #3-- Bear #4
Myers #3 -- Burroughs 7 -- Stillman #7 or #8 soon when Dermott # 4 returns