Where's Wellwood

Anyone remember Blair's Death Rain Chips? Really spicy?

You would be wrong. I can't even remember the last time I was mafia, but i know that as normal TP I've often been inactive to the point of it making me a suspect. I think my most active game was when I was TP special (jack of all trades?) in a recent game and I hounded BJ through all of round 2 after I investigated him first night fall. It might have been a game AV hosted.

I'm also, as I've said, still taking classes. At the time I did believe both AV and Ceres. AV because of you and Ceres because he wouldn't bus a team mate if the team mate was PZ. That was before Aladeen clarified the nightfall. MR being 3p has removed a lot of town cred from Ceres for me. Not all of it though since I don't see why Virt would so strongly defend if he and Ceres were mafia The idea of a vig is possible but so open ended that I didn't bother addressing it. We might as well consider there's an SK too if we're thinking of all possible ways AV could have been targetted. And what other ways could mafia mess up their kill? I addressed withholding their kill on purpose (unlikely) and I agree it's probable that they targetted AV and you saved him

The Memorial Cup cancelled too. Signs of things to come.

3p eh?

aren't you more likely to get targeted now that you've outed yourself

So they'd out both of themselves at the same time?

No one has counter claimed Sheriff. but its possible that there wouldn't be a sheriff in a game with the CDC who investigates. AV was right about Jazz, but he could be a mafia investigator. His play on MR could be trying to protect a team mate or PZ could be immune to being found by the real sheriff. In such a case Ceres must have bussed his easiest to hide team mate. Working backwards, given that I believe Falcon is the doc, he really did protect AV who was targetted and correct about Jazz, and PZ is prob investigation immune. I don't think Ceres would bus a valuable (potentially allegiance converting) teammate. Though I don't like how Ceres is talking out his ass about his powers and actions, it keeps us and the mafia on our toes

If they were both not clean, why would they ally themselves with each other?

Ceres is Beluga? That's makes a lot of sense. He's knows way too much about the game to be new. the fact that no one has counter claimed doctor makes this AV-falcon scheme of holding off the mafia kill and claiming a doctor save unlikely. Falcon prob is the doctor and saved AV. Though the doc getting a confirmation of save from the host is weird. never seen that. This doesn't exclude AV being mafia. Unless there isn't a doctor this game. or the doc was Kurisu or bassi.

What are Sean Day, Shane Wright, and Joe Veleno up to these day? Wasn't Veleno drafted by the Red Wings? (and not even that high)

I was going to ask why you were so sure you'd survive. I know I did bring that up earlier today.

I'm not sure who's telling the truth so I'll go with what will tell us something AND who might be PZ vote MR Risk vs benefit: any of MR or Ceres we lynch might be mafia, but if MR is mafia there's the added potential benefit of getting rid of PZ

What is WIFOM?

It's comes down to who I trust less between you and MR now that MR is asleep (?). unvote Ceres

Was your investigation on lucky a mid round joke? If so, same level as MR's joke.

I don't see why two mafia would choose to go down together. At this point AV and MR are tied together. Ceres' claim has gotten less believable. His investigation? mid round on lucky was confusing and his attempt to keep his partner secret just seem like avoidance. Plus, unlike AV, he seems to have never considered that the mafia will kill him tonight which is strange when you role claim, unless you're sure you won't be killed vote ceres

We can just LTIR Ferland if it doesn't work out. Why waste a buy out?

It would be too early for a result.

@Ceres Confirmation on only having one investigation? Makes having a sheriff much more likely

So you think PZ shows up TP on sheriff investigation. But then you're assuming you're dead no matter who we lynch.

Ceres role claim is also a Town aligned role that investigates?

AV as mafia would be dumb to 'clear' a fellow mafia since if AV is lynched, it incriminates MR. Much safer to 'clear' a TP if you're fake claiming sheriff. It guarantees that you're right and you don't drag a team member down with you if your 'clear' ends up being lynched for proof

Hasn't it just been the investigation?

What makes it impossible as opposed to just game theme specific?